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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
Well put. Jimmy Page's solo on You Shook Me is all you really need to hear to know what makes Led Zeppelin amazing.
- ThirdEye


As much as their new music is awful, check out the solo in DragonForce's "Fury of the Storm" and you'll find a solo that he never could have played. Or basically anything by Rhapsody (of Fire). I'm sure hew was good for the time, but some of these "power metal" guys are ridiculously fast.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Demon Cleaner and Space Cadet.

Tough to find Kyuss stuff.

- wolfhounds

I still have my tapes and cds of kyuess


*feels old*
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
You must love Neil Young
- PhillySportsGuy


Southern Man is fantastic.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
I'm with you. Like soap mixed with some vague citrusy flavor. When I lived in Arizona, it was much easier to eat Mexican food. Real mexican food didn't have it... TexMex or other crappy fake-ass Mexican food always did.
- ThirdEye


Good call, you'd be surprised how many people don't realize what they call mexican is actually texmex. And cilantro is nasty; also the reason I never went back to baja fresh.

I want to nominate the Strokes for good contemporary band. I really think they should rerelease Is This It/Room On Fire as a double album.

And i haven't had a chance to read much lately, but can Ghost play for the Flyers after the frozen four? Or dowe wait till next year?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
wow things move fast here
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Then listen to punk rock or, better yet, hardcore. You want youth energy and rebellion, there ya go.
- jmatchett383


Yeah, I grew up in the late 80s early 90s punk/hc scene... Even then things were already beginning to wind down, and we'd lose scene kids to raves daily.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
Good call, you'd be surprised how many people don't realize what they call mexican is actually texmex. And cilantro is nasty; also the reason I never went back to baja fresh.

I want to nominate the Strokes for good contemporary band. I really think they should rerelease Is This It/Room On Fire as a double album.

And i haven't had a chance to read much lately, but can Ghost play for the Flyers after the frozen four? Or dowe wait till next year?

- DrMidnite


If he signs, he can. I don't think the Flyers are comfortable throwing him into the fire like that
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
I still have my tapes and cds of kyuess


*feels old*

- WaterBoy


That's awesome

You'd have been old if you said you still had the 8 tracks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
It isn't without flaws, but I'm not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate? That whole heavy metal thing is just bizarre, I totally agree.
- ThirdEye


Sure can. My dad, who LOVES Led Zeppelin, says that Led Zeppelin I has the most mistakes of any studio album he's ever hard.

If they're really that great, why didn't they notice there were mistakes? Did they not notice? Not care enough? Do too much acid to notice? If you're an exceptionally talented band, wouldn't you want to put out the best quality of your songs possible?
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET

Tool est mon groupe favori.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
What ?

Standard...very standard.

- WaterBoy

Indeed.

That being said, I love me some heavy blues
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
Southern Man is fantastic.
- jmatchett383


How many Flyers were dead vs. Ohio last night?
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
My top 3 All Time bands
1. Stones
2. Beatles
3. Pink Floyd

Top 3 recent bands
1. Mumford and Sons
2. The National
3. The Lumineers

- BingoLady


I was front row for a documentary that was about The National. I was five feet from Matt and his brother, who was the director of the film. Pretty awesome.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
That's awesome

You'd have been old if you said you still had the 8 tracks.

- wolfhounds

8 tracks...I only have the player out in the shed with 1 elvis tape.

Was talking about this:

ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
My top 10 bands (all-time, not by era or in any order)

1. Tool
2. Kyuss
3. Queens of the Stone Age
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Pink Floyd
6. Alice in Chains (this new band is NOT Alice in Chains)
7. Soundgarden (they should have stayed broken up)
8. Radiohead
9. The Allman Brothers
10. Jimi Hendrix (yes, he counts)

PS, feel free to check out my poopty band Password is Password. I make no promises of quality.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
Yeah, I grew up in the late 80s early 90s punk/hc scene... Even then things were already beginning to wind down, and we'd lose scene kids to raves daily.
- Tomahawk


Well yeah, hardcore goes through swings. It was huge back in the late 90s, died in the mid-00s, came back up around 08, and is in a big downward spiral right now.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
As much as their new music is awful, check out the solo in DragonForce's "Fury of the Storm" and you'll find a solo that he never could have played. Or basically anything by Rhapsody (of Fire). I'm sure hew was good for the time, but some of these "power metal" guys are ridiculously fast.
- jmatchett383


Fast isn't always good. Dragonforce plays so fast that they could just hold out a note most of the time and it wouldn't sound that much different. I do enjoy their music and am not criticizing them. Arm strength is great and all, but led zeppelin is musically talented in a different way. Playing choppy music and making it sound so good. Making beautiful meaningful music like Stairway with just simple stuff is amazingly hard to do with a gifted mind for music.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:21 PM ET
Demon Cleaner and Space Cadet.

Tough to find Kyuss stuff.

- wolfhounds


Lemme know what you need, I'll find a way to get it to you.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:22 PM ET


I like all 6 of your choices, especially Pink Floyd!

- BiggE

Going to Brit Floyd in 10 days.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Sure can. My day, who LOVES Led Zeppeling, says that Led Zeppelin I has the most mistakes of any studio album he's ever hard.

If they're really that great, why didn't they notice there were mistakes? Did they not notice? Not care enough? Do too much acid to notice? If you're an exceptionally talented band, wouldn't you want to put out the best quality of your songs possible?

- jmatchett383


Because they wanted it raw, vintage, and authentic.

I'm speculating, but that certainly could be the reason.

That's why the Beatles put their "live" recordings from the roof onto Let It Be. Hell in the beginning of the album version of Get Back, you can hear Billy Preston still warming up on the keyboard 15 seconds into the song.

Maybe they wanted that way. It doesn't have to be perfect if you don't want it to be. That's the beauty of art, isn't it?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Yeah, I grew up in the late 80s early 90s punk/hc scene... Even then things were already beginning to wind down, and we'd lose scene kids to raves daily.
- Tomahawk

You can say that again.
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
As much as their new music is awful, check out the solo in DragonForce's "Fury of the Storm" and you'll find a solo that he never could have played. Or basically anything by Rhapsody (of Fire). I'm sure hew was good for the time, but some of these "power metal" guys are ridiculously fast.
- jmatchett383


Fast is poop. These bands and Dream Theatre = guitar masturbation. Can't stand it. For fast+good, try Buckethead.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
My top 10 bands (all-time, not by era or in any order)

1. Tool
2. Kyuss
3. Queens of the Stone Age
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Pink Floyd
6. Alice in Chains (this new band is NOT Alice in Chains)
7. Soundgarden (they should have stayed broken up)
8. Radiohead
9. The Allman Brothers
10. Jimi Hendrix (yes, he counts)

PS, feel free to check out my poopty band Password is Password. I make no promises of quality.

- ThirdEye

kicksave loves u
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Fast isn't always good. Dragonforce plays so fast that they could just hold out a note most of the time and it wouldn't sound that much different. I do enjoy their music and am not criticizing them. Arm strength is great and all, but led zeppelin is musically talented in a different way. Playing choppy music and making it sound so good. Making beautiful meaningful music like Stairway with just simple stuff is amazingly hard to do with a gifted mind for music.
- FlyersSteve118


That wasn't my point, as I don't care for DragonForce all that much (although their first NA tour was pretty fun). You called all members of Led Zep "irregularly talented." My point is that there's tons of people today who are just as talented at playing the guitar.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
My friends are touring with the Lumineers right now
- Giroux_Is_God

nice - what band?
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