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dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Apr 4 @ 8:22 AM ET
Who would've thought Paul Martin would be our savior. 2 seasons ago we wanted to burn him alive. Now that we cliched the division I'd sit 3,2,44,87,18,14 ,36,29 for the next 3
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Apr 4 @ 8:23 AM ET
4/5/14
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Apr 4 @ 8:35 AM ET
Who would've thought Paul Martin would be our savior. 2 seasons ago we wanted to burn him alive. Now that we cliched the division I'd sit 3,2,44,87,18,14 ,36,29 for the next 3
- dbell646


I don't think the Pens have the cap space to bring up enough players to cover for those guys.
ScienceJesus
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 4 @ 8:50 AM ET
I don't think the Pens have the cap space to bring up enough players to cover for those guys.
- cap1681


They also don't have enough call-ups. I'm pretty sure they're limited in their number of call-ups post-deadline.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 4 @ 9:20 AM ET
Everytime I watch Winnipeg play, I shake my head. There is some pretty good talent on that roster. Trouba, Enstrom, Bogo are pretty good Dmen and Montoya is a solid backup goalie. They aren't that far off.
- Oneonta Penguin


Yeah I watched this team when I was in ATL. They really aren't that far off, but they play so bad. I think Kane is a locker room cancer, dude just comes off as a DBAG. I don't think moving to Winnipeg was a very wise NHL decision. It will be interesting to see what happens to their top talent over the next few yrs. With the Canadian dollar going down I just see this team struggling.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 4 @ 9:25 AM ET
People call him a very good coach, but he got canned for leading an under achieving Philly team. Ask Flyer fans - they have many of the same gripes as we have with Bylsma.
- Oneonta Penguin

Underperforming is one thing (0-3 after missing the playoffs), but his inability to adapt his system was really his downfall. He runs an aggressive puck pressure system, heavy on the forecheck and preferring defensemen pinch more often. We didn't have the mobility/puck movement on defense to sustain that (especially as Pronger, and eventually Carle moved off our blueline). He also didn't seem to trust our young players (a familiar gripe, for sure) as much as we needed, given where our team is.

Maybe he'd be a fit in Pitt, not sure. You guys do have a lot more in the ways of puck movement on the back end.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 4 @ 9:27 AM ET
4/5/14
- nbartley9

The Earth Starts to Rumble
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 9:54 AM ET
Underperforming is one thing (0-3 after missing the playoffs), but his inability to adapt his system was really his downfall. He runs an aggressive puck pressure system, heavy on the forecheck and preferring defensemen pinch more often. We didn't have the mobility/puck movement on defense to sustain that (especially as Pronger, and eventually Carle moved off our blueline). He also didn't seem to trust our young players (a familiar gripe, for sure) as much as we needed, given where our team is.

Maybe he'd be a fit in Pitt, not sure. You guys do have a lot more in the ways of puck movement on the back end.

- BulliesPhan87


Thank you for this post. People always think there is better out there. As you pointed out, there is a reason why he was fired by the Flyers and some of it is the same gripes we have here.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Apr 4 @ 9:58 AM ET
Yeah I watched this team when I was in ATL. They really aren't that far off, but they play so bad. I think Kane is a locker room cancer, dude just comes off as a DBAG. I don't think moving to Winnipeg was a very wise NHL decision. It will be interesting to see what happens to their top talent over the next few yrs. With the Canadian dollar going down I just see this team struggling.
- sammy87


I cringe everytime someone brings up E. Kane as a target for the Pens. He is a Dbag. He is very inmature and won't ever fulfill his true promise until he works on that. He might be one of the more overrated players in the NHL to me.

Forwards - Wheeler, Ladd, Little, Kane, Scheiffle, Jokinen, Seto, Frolik, Buff if you now call him a forward

Defense - Bogosian, Trouba, Enstrom, Stuart isn't a bad four

Goalie - Pavelec is inconsistent, but Montoya is more than a capable backup.

Its not a back roster

As for the Atlanta comment. No one cared about hockey in Atlanta. People are crazy about hockey in Winnipeg. They need to start turning things around soon though.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Apr 4 @ 10:11 AM ET
Pens win!!!! now lets complain about Megna and the fourth line.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Apr 4 @ 10:11 AM ET
I don't think the Pens have the cap space to bring up enough players to cover for those guys.
- cap1681

Just ice the bottom 2 lines.
Brayn
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Birmingham, AL
Joined: 03.11.2010

Apr 4 @ 10:30 AM ET
The Earth Starts to Rumble
- BulliesPhan87


World powers fall[url]
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
I cringe everytime someone brings up E. Kane as a target for the Pens. He is a Dbag. He is very inmature and won't ever fulfill his true promise until he works on that. He might be one of the more overrated players in the NHL to me.

Forwards - Wheeler, Ladd, Little, Kane, Scheiffle, Jokinen, Seto, Frolik, Buff if you now call him a forward

Defense - Bogosian, Trouba, Enstrom, Stuart isn't a bad four

Goalie - Pavelec is inconsistent, but Montoya is more than a capable backup.

Its not a back roster

As for the Atlanta comment. No one cared about hockey in Atlanta. People are crazy about hockey in Winnipeg. They need to start turning things around soon though.

- Oneonta Penguin


PPL actually did care about hockey in ATL, nobody in the metro is from the south, a lot of mid western/NE transplansplants. The problem is the rink was downtown and a pain to get to mid week and downtown ATL is not a good place to be after dark. ATL has 10x more corporate sponsors than the PEG ever will, and 10x the population. Its the same reason the Braves and Falcons are moving their stadiums out of downtown. The ppl with $$$ all live outside the loop. That and a GM that poorly managed the team.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 4 @ 10:55 AM ET
World powers fall
- Brayn[url]

Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
PPL actually did care about hockey in ATL, nobody in the metro is from the south, a lot of mid western/NE transplansplants. The problem is the rink was downtown and a pain to get to mid week and downtown ATL is not a good place to be after dark. ATL has 10x more corporate sponsors than the PEG ever will, and 10x the population. Its the same reason the Braves and Falcons are moving their stadiums out of downtown. The ppl with $$$ all live outside the loop. That and a GM that poorly managed the team.
- sammy87



Good points! Atlanta highways are either a parking lot or a spitting image of Talladega. Every time we leave for Tampa/St. Pete its at 3 in the morning.

On the hockey side of Atlanta, the youth programs are very good.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
Good points! Atlanta highways are either a parking lot or a spitting image of Talladega. Every time we leave for Tampa/St. Pete its at 3 in the morning.

On the hockey side of Atlanta, the youth programs are very good.

- Topshelf Mountain


You cant really expect many ppl to commute 30-45 mins after work, grab the kids drive back another 30-45 mins watch a game then repeat. The Braves are a storied BBL franchise yet they cant sell out playoff games.

Pitt is an easy commuter city to live in.
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