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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:40 AM ET
Its not like Erik Christensen can't play hockey better than McGinn and Rinaldo... you wouldn't exactly be shorthanded.

If you want somebody more turnkey, trade for Brad Boyes. Likewise he wouldn't be eligible for the PO's since it's post-TDL, but he would be a net plus to the PO push all around.

- Tomahawk



The trade deadline passed some time ago. Why isn't Christensen in the NHL now?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:41 AM ET
The trade deadline passed some time ago. Why isn't Christensen in the NHL now?
- MJL


Because Buffalo wanted to abstain from using a CBO on Leino?
And because he signed in the SEL?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
The trade deadline passed some time ago. Why isn't Christensen in the NHL now?
- MJL


I think that article mentioned he's in Europe now?

I could have misread it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
The trade deadline passed some time ago. Why isn't Christensen in the NHL now?
- MJL


Because every game doesn't end in a shootout? Literally.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:43 AM ET
Because every game doesn't end in a shootout? Literally.
- MBFlyerfan


But every game that literally ends with a shootout literally has a shootout.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think that article mentioned he's in Europe now?

I could have misread it.

- johndewar



I saw that, but why isn't he in the NHL. Could be a variety of reasons.

But my view is instead of worrying about the shootout, and making a roster change for the shootout. Concentrate on taking care of business in regulation and/or OT, and win a few games. Start tonight with Colmbus.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:44 AM ET
Literally millions? I think that's a bit of an overstatement. Maybe a few hundred, if that. After all, all teams have 7 or less games to go, so 7 (games) *14 (teams alive in playoff) * 2 (max. teams per game) = 196 possible point scenarios.
- jmatchett383



Not a math whiz, but the equation would have to involve permutations to include every possible outcome, for every game remaining, right?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:44 AM ET
I saw that, but why isn't he in the NHL. Could be a variety of reasons.

But my view is instead of worrying about the shootout, and making a roster change for the shootout. Concentrate on taking care of business in regulation and/or OT, and win a few games. Start tonight with Colmbus.

- MJL


Do you think they could literally beat Columbus?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
There's literally millions of scenarios where they could miss out by 1 point, though.
- Tomahawk


Lay out the scenario where it happens and we'll all come up with a percentage on it
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
There's literally millions of scenarios where they could miss out by 1 point, though.
- Tomahawk


If you look at it statistically, the chances of a guy like Christainson making a difference is pretty low.

If the Flyers had 5 less points, I may agree with you, but they are on solid ground right now. I would like the team to keep the same lineup they want to roll in the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:45 AM ET
Do you think they could literally beat Columbus?
- jmatchett383



Literally, figuratively, whatever. Just beat them, in regulation preferably.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:46 AM ET
Not a math whiz, but the equation would have to involve permutations to include every possible outcome, for every game remaining, right?
- Tomahawk

I mean, if we're going to break it down to every atomic possibility, then it's WAY more than 196, or even millions of possible outcomes. In fact, I believe the number of possible outcomes approaches infinite.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:47 AM ET
Not a math whiz, but the equation would have to involve permutations to include every possible outcome, for every game remaining, right?
- Tomahawk


Yes, but to the point of the matter (no pun intended), the most points that any team could get in a game would be 2, so an OTL/SO would have no effect on the Flyers chances. But yes, we can chance the last 2 to a 3 to account for a shootout, bringing our total to 294 possible scenarios (assuming every game is between 2 playoff-possible teams from the Eastern Conference).
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:47 AM ET
Are we going to spend all day talking about shootouts and shootout specialists?

really?

really????
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:48 AM ET
Are we going to spend all day talking about shootouts and shootout specialists?

really?

really????

- BiggE

There are literally millions of conversational possibilities.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:48 AM ET
I mean, if we're going to break it down to every atomic possibility, then it's WAY more than 196, or even millions of possible outcomes. In fact, I believe the number of possible outcomes approaches infinite.
- BulliesPhan87


Well yes, if we want to factor in every possible play of every infinitesimally small period time, then yes, the possible scenarios approach infinite.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:49 AM ET
There are literally millions of conversational possibilities.
- BulliesPhan87



Literally.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:50 AM ET
If you look at it statistically, the chances of a guy like Christainson making a difference is pretty low.

If the Flyers had 5 less points, I may agree with you, but they are on solid ground right now. I would like the team to keep the same lineup they want to roll in the playoffs.

- PhillySportsGuy



Just an out of the box thought, not saying they should or shouldn't, just something to consider.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 3 @ 10:50 AM ET
There are literally millions of conversational possibilities.
- BulliesPhan87


Hypothetically, that would be literally accurate
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 3 @ 10:50 AM ET
There are literally millions of conversational possibilities.
- BulliesPhan87



And those possibilities are there for countless writers to author ridiculous articles like the one that was linked.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:50 AM ET
If you look at it statistically, the chances of a guy like Christainson making a difference is pretty low.

If the Flyers had 5 less points, I may agree with you, but they are on solid ground right now. I would like the team to keep the same lineup they want to roll in the playoffs.

- PhillySportsGuy


Maybe you're right. But sometimes, guys get pigeon holed in their careers and end up in a rut.

As I mentioned before, I'm pretty sure Jussi Jokinen was known as the "shootout guy" before he finally solidified a role in Pittsburgh.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:50 AM ET
There are literally millions of conversational possibilities.
- BulliesPhan87


I literally wanted to have sex with both Tiffany Amber Thiessen and Melissa Joan Hart when I was a kid.

Now, that list has been reduced to Tiffany Amber Thiessen.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 3 @ 10:51 AM ET
Well yes, if we want to factor in every possible play of every infinitesimally small period time, then yes, the possible scenarios approach infinite.
- jmatchett383

Psh, I'm taking every reasonably possible atomic configuration into account here. The possibilities eclipse infinite, and can only be described as "humangous big"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
Maybe you're right. But sometimes, guys get pigeon holed in their careers and end up in a rut.

As I mentioned before, I'm pretty sure Jussi Jokinen was known as the "shootout guy" before he finally solidified a role in Pittsburgh.

- johndewar


Jussi got that nickname because he perfected "the Forsberg" in the shootout. Christensen was the one who was Mr. Shootout.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 3 @ 10:52 AM ET
Psh, I'm taking every reasonably possible atomic configuration into account here. The possibilities eclipse infinite, and can only be described as "humangous big"
- BulliesPhan87


GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!
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