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HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
Jerome Iginla?
- Jeropotato

what are the odds he comes to a non contender tho.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:17 PM ET
I totally understand but like I said, MacT will TRY to find guys, but they simy just won't want to come to EDM most likely
- OilerFan16


Meh...I think Mac T will have to. No doubt he reigns all the key RFA's, but If we start the season with :

Hall RNH Ebs
Perron Gags Yak
Lander Gordon Hendricks
Joensuu/Gazdic Arco Pitlick

Petry Marincin
Ferrence Schultz
Klefbom Gernat

Scirvens
Fasth

....I will do something that I would normally prefer not to.

Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:18 PM ET
what are the odds he comes to a non contender tho.
- HouseArrest187


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Bubba.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:20 PM ET
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Bubba.

- Jeropotato

ya, thats what i figured too.
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:23 PM ET
(frank)ing blue jays
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
(frank)ing blue jays
- Oilers42


Yep. Been saying that for about 20 years.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
Eberle, Musil, and 2015 1st for Greene, Zajac, and 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Bjugstad, Kulikov (RFA), and a 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Ehrhoff, Armia, and a 2014 2nd




Hall- (filled by trade/signing)- Perron
Yak- RNH- Kulemin
Winnik- Arco- Gagner
Hendy- Gordon- Pitlick
Gazdic

(filled by above trade)- Petry
Mitchell- Schultz
Ference- Marincin
Fedun

Scrivens
Fasth



Thoughts, e'erbody? I'm open to criticism.

P.S. Before any of you say it, Kulikov has told numerous reporters that he has EVERY intention of staying in North America.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:29 PM ET
Eberle, Musil, and 2015 1st for Greene, Zajac, and 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Bjugstad, Kulikov (RFA), and a 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Ehrhoff, Armia, and a 2014 2nd




Hall- (filled by trade/signing)- Perron
Yak- RNH- Kulemin
Winnik- Arco- Gagner
Hendy- Gordon- Pitlick
Gazdic

(filled by above trade)- Petry
Mitchell- Schultz
Ference- Marincin
Fedun

Scrivens
Fasth



Thoughts, e'erbody? I'm open to criticism.

P.S. Before any of you say it, Kulikov has told numerous reporters that he has EVERY intention of staying in North America.

- MaximumBone


I like the New Jersey deal best, I suppose. I also think that moving Gagner for an upgrade somewhere would be ideal as well.
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:31 PM ET
Eberle, Musil, and 2015 1st for Greene, Zajac, and 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Bjugstad, Kulikov (RFA), and a 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Ehrhoff, Armia, and a 2014 2nd




Hall- (filled by trade/signing)- Perron
Yak- RNH- Kulemin
Winnik- Arco- Gagner
Hendy- Gordon- Pitlick
Gazdic

(filled by above trade)- Petry
Mitchell- Schultz
Ference- Marincin
Fedun

Scrivens
Fasth



Thoughts, e'erbody? I'm open to criticism.

P.S. Before any of you say it, Kulikov has told numerous reporters that he has EVERY intention of staying in North America.

- MaximumBone


I don't think the Eberle trades make sense given the team.

Having gagner be a 3rd line RW seems very counter productive and I would rather trade him than have him there.

The best trade you mentioned is the Florida one, but I'm not sure that one would get done.

Assuming Mitchell is Willie Mitchell Id hold off on him. He may look like a good defenseman on LA but I'd see the regression to the same extent if not more than ferrence this year.

Also marincin plays on the left side
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:32 PM ET
Eberle, Musil, and 2015 1st for Greene, Zajac, and 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Bjugstad, Kulikov (RFA), and a 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Ehrhoff, Armia, and a 2014 2nd




Hall- (filled by trade/signing)- Perron
Yak- RNH- Kulemin
Winnik- Arco- Gagner
Hendy- Gordon- Pitlick
Gazdic

(filled by above trade)- Petry
Mitchell- Schultz
Ference- Marincin
Fedun

Scrivens
Fasth



Thoughts, e'erbody? I'm open to criticism.

P.S. Before any of you say it, Kulikov has told numerous reporters that he has EVERY intention of staying in North America.

- MaximumBone

You didn't buyout Ference so
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:33 PM ET
Eberle, Musil, and 2015 1st for Greene, Zajac, and 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Bjugstad, Kulikov (RFA), and a 2014 2nd
OR
Eberle for Ehrhoff, Armia, and a 2014 2nd




Hall- (filled by trade/signing)- Perron
Yak- RNH- Kulemin
Winnik- Arco- Gagner
Hendy- Gordon- Pitlick
Gazdic

(filled by above trade)- Petry
Mitchell- Schultz
Ference- Marincin
Fedun

Scrivens
Fasth



Thoughts, e'erbody? I'm open to criticism.

P.S. Before any of you say it, Kulikov has told numerous reporters that he has EVERY intention of staying in North America.

- MaximumBone

I see what your trying but IMO Erhorff is the only guy of the three who should be a top pairing guy
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:42 PM ET
I don't think the Eberle trades make sense given the team.

Having gagner be a 3rd line RW seems very counter productive and I would rather trade him than have him there.

The best trade you mentioned is the Florida one, but I'm not sure that one would get done.

Assuming Mitchell is Willie Mitchell Id hold off on him. He may look like a good defenseman on LA but I'd see the regression to the same extent if not more than ferrence this year.

Also marincin plays on the left side

- CrustyRooster

All fair points of opinion. However, I disagree with you.

Gagner as a 3RW gives him fairly easy competition and he's getting played with two defensively responsible guys. Ideally, we can move him for someone cheaper and bigger (say Colin Wilson?), but I only wanted to include one trade in this roster.

Mitchell, while he is aging, is still as defensively solid of an option as you'll find in FA this year. While I don't doubt there'll be regression, my plan was for him to be signed to a fairly short term deal (1 to 2 years at 3.5 to 4.5 million). He's big, great along the boards, has Cup experience, has a running feud with Kesler (always a plus in my books), and has solid puckmoving instincts.

I've gotta say I think the best deal I proposed was the NJ one, but I'm guessing you value youth more than I do so I'll leave that point to personal preference.

Lastly, I didn't mean that depth chart indefinite. I'd definitely rather Ference be playing the right side. Just a misunderstanding there!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:48 PM ET
When he was playing consistently with the big club, my guess was that Arco would get somewhere between 1.25 and 1.7 million on a one-way deal. Since he went down and didn't come back I was pretty sure he was going to walk.

Should be interesting to see the number.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:49 PM ET
I don't think the Eberle trades make sense given the team.

Having gagner be a 3rd line RW seems very counter productive and I would rather trade him than have him there.

The best trade you mentioned is the Florida one, but I'm not sure that one would get done.

Assuming Mitchell is Willie Mitchell Id hold off on him. He may look like a good defenseman on LA but I'd see the regression to the same extent if not more than ferrence this year.

Also marincin plays on the left side

- CrustyRooster



In the real world, I suppose Mac T's job may be on the line if he traded Eberle.
I think the deal would have to serve 2 purposes in sedating the fan base and improving the team. So some star power might have to come back.

Shea Weber and Patric Hornqvist for Jordan Eberle, Oscar Klefbom ,Roman Horak, 2014 1st, 2015 1st

or

Zach Bogosian and Eric Tangradi for Jordan Eberle

or

Brian Campbell, 2014 1st for Jordan Eberle and Mitch Moroz
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:49 PM ET
I see what your trying but IMO Erhorff is the only guy of the three who should be a top pairing guy
- OilerFan16

Have you heard of Andy Greene? Allow me to open your eyes to the beauty that is underrated Dmen

http://www.inlouwetrust.c...enseman-new-jersey-devils

http://www.extraskater.com/player/480/andy-greene

http://espn.go.com/nhl/pl...ats/_/id/3313/andy-greene
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:52 PM ET
All fair points of opinion. However, I disagree with you.

Gagner as a 3RW gives him fairly easy competition and he's getting played with two defensively responsible guys. Ideally, we can move him for someone cheaper and bigger (say Colin Wilson?), but I only wanted to include one trade in this roster.

Mitchell, while he is aging, is still as defensively solid of an option as you'll find in FA this year. While I don't doubt there'll be regression, my plan was for him to be signed to a fairly short term deal (1 to 2 years at 3.5 to 4.5 million). He's big, great along the boards, has Cup experience, has a running feud with Kesler (always a plus in my books), and has solid puckmoving instincts.

I've gotta say I think the best deal I proposed was the NJ one, but I'm guessing you value youth more than I do so I'll leave that point to personal preference.

Lastly, I didn't mean that depth chart indefinite. I'd definitely rather Ference be playing the right side. Just a misunderstanding there!

- MaximumBone


This would indeed be ideal.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:54 PM ET
When he was playing consistently with the big club, my guess was that Arco would get somewhere between 1.25 and 1.7 million on a one-way deal. Since he went down and didn't come back I was pretty sure he was going to walk.

Should be interesting to see the number.

- Morris


Gregor suggest two year $2.4m-$2.6m per for schultz. He doesn't deserve more than subban's bridge contract.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:57 PM ET
Gregor suggest two year $2.4m-$2.6m per for schultz. He doesn't deserve more than subban's bridge contract.
- deks1



I can smell the pungent stench of a contract hold out.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:57 PM ET
Gregor suggest two year $2.4m-$2.6m per for schultz. He doesn't deserve more than subban's bridge contract.
- deks1


he absolutely does not.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Mar 31 @ 4:59 PM ET
Gregor suggest two year $2.4m-$2.6m per for schultz. He doesn't deserve more than subban's bridge contract.
- deks1

If he does get more (even if just slightly more), it would only be because of Salary Cap diferrences. Subban signed his when the cap was pretty low. If the cap raises enough this offseason, I could see Schultz MAYBE getting $3 million, but no more than that.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 31 @ 5:01 PM ET
If he does get more (even if just slightly more), it would only be because of Salary Cap diferrences. Subban signed his when the cap was pretty low. If the cap raises enough this offseason, I could see Schultz MAYBE getting $3 million, but no more than that.
- MaximumBone

Schultz has to see that a bridge contract does him a favour right now. If I'm Schultz and the Oil offer 2.4 per for 2 years or 3.75 for 6 years, I know what I take.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Mar 31 @ 5:04 PM ET
New blog
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Apr 1 @ 8:15 AM ET
guess that makes your mom the fa goalie. cause shes full of holes a leaks like a sieve out of all of them...
- HouseArrest187

well played!
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