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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:48 PM ET
He was shooting at a 30% clip early on. Regression set in.
- bradleyc4



I don't call going from a unrealistic shooting percentage to a more normal shooting percentage, a regression.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:48 PM ET
Maximizing the value!

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m
Despite shopping him and finding interest, Eagles have made decision to cut WR DeSean Jackson. Outright. Jackson is now a free agent.

- PLindbergh31


Ugh.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
Maximizing the value!

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m
Despite shopping him and finding interest, Eagles have made decision to cut WR DeSean Jackson. Outright. Jackson is now a free agent.

- PLindbergh31


That's just odd. Doesn't seem like good business, either. Not that I give a poop about the Iggles.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
But it impacts Vinny's performance?
- wolfhounds



Yes, playing Lecavalier on the left side has affected his performance, clearly.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
That's just odd. Doesn't seem like good business, either. Not that I give a poop about the Iggles.
- wolfhounds


Same here, but that just surprises me.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Ugh.
- PhillySportsGuy


We were talking about this the other day -- had a feeling they weren't going to get anything for him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
Yup. Vinny is stud at center. Thats the only thing holding him back from being a legit top 6 player. His defensive miscues won't be exacerbated by playing a position that requires more all around play.
- PhillySportsGuy



He's no worse defensively then Schenn is. And again, Schenn's defensive miscues are just ignored. While Lecavalier's are amplified and exaggerated.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
Same here, but that just surprises me.
- Streit2ThePoint


I'm thinking the Eagles were making a statement with that decision.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
Guy got into a fight once w/ Iginla... doesn't make him Milan Lucic.
- Tomahawk



Fighting doesn't have anything to do with it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
I don't understand how his entire career as a successful player can be ignored, while also ignoring his effective play as a Center before the injury this Season.
- MJL


I have these things called eyes. I can close them, but I choose to watch the games. I don't understand why you think he's going to go from awful LW to above average C. He may be more effective at center than LW, but he's not more effective than Schenn at center. That my opinion. I know you differ, but the coaches seem to agree with me. Its over.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
Ugh.
- PhillySportsGuy


Confirmed?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
If Vinny looks like his old self playing 4th line center tonight, Chief will have a tough decision to make.

No matter how you cut it, he's putting VL back at C, now it's up to VL to rise to the challenge and perform, or not.

- wolfhounds


I agree. Lecavalier needs to play his way back up.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
He's no worse defensively then Schenn is. And again, Schenn's defensive miscues are just ignored. While Lecavalier's are amplified and exaggerated.
- MJL


Neither are defensive stalwarts by any stretch, same goes with Simmonds, but Vinny apparently is worse than Schenn based upon +/-. How else is this being judged?

And if moving Vinny to wing messes him up, the same can be said for Schenn, right?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
http://www.nj.com/eagles/...f-the-field_troubles.html

Desean has connections with gang members in LA. This article was posted by credible sources. Peter King, Les Bowen etc
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
Leaf win 5 - 2

JVR with the hatty .

Ya'll can suck it !
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
Confirmed?
- jmatchett383


Confirmed
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
just playin
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 28 @ 12:55 PM ET
I don't call going from a unrealistic shooting percentage to a more normal shooting percentage, a regression.
- MJL


He meant statistical regression back to the mean...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
He's no worse defensively then Schenn is. And again, Schenn's defensive miscues are just ignored. While Lecavalier's are amplified and exaggerated.
- MJL


Look at the numbers for once. Schenn is +1 and Vinny is -16. Thats a huge difference for guys that play together a lot.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
If Vinny looks like his old self playing 4th line center tonight, Chief will have a tough decision to make.

No matter how you cut it, he's putting VL back at C, now it's up to VL to rise to the challenge and perform, or not.

- wolfhounds


What are realistic expectations for Lecavalier centering Hall, and Rinaldo? That line isn't going to create any offense, and other than Hall it has a chance to be a defensive liability.

I think moving Lecavalier to the 4th line probably has a lot to do with getting Raffl more ice time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
I have these things called eyes. I can close them, but I choose to watch the games. I don't understand why you think he's going to go from awful LW to above average C. He may be more effective at center than LW, but he's not more effective than Schenn at center. That my opinion. I know you differ, but the coaches seem to agree with me. Its over.
- PhillySportsGuy



There seems to be a fundamental element of confusion here. I see the same thing. I see an ineffective Lecavalier who has not played well since coming back from the injury. But to just ignore that he's a proven player, and was a quality player at Center before the injury, is foolish.
And you've given me numbers when it comes to looking at Lecavalier as a Winger, but don't want to look at the numbers with Schenn at Center. And show me how he's not more effective then Schenn at Center.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
I agree. Lecavalier needs to play his way back up.
- MJL


That's the best we can hope for. I know we're all hoping he comes out and kicks ass. If Vinny gets it going, this team becomes that much more dangerous.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
I do too. Up at 6 AM, off to the game, home around 11, and then my turn to stay up with the 4-month-old. I could really use a win.
- jmatchett383


Sissy, I call that day Monday.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 28 @ 12:57 PM ET

- Streit2ThePoint

oh yes

Gotta have this one tonight gentlemen. Gotta have it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
He's no worse defensively then Schenn is. And again, Schenn's defensive miscues are just ignored. While Lecavalier's are amplified and exaggerated.
- MJL


Schenn is 22, with fewer than 200 games under his belt. Vinny is a 15-year vet, playing like a 3rd year player defensively.
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