I agree that Schenn's development is important.

I just hope the investment the team is making in this kid is worth it.
- johndewar

In my opinion, it is. Patience is key with young power forwards. He's going to be a gem in a year or two.

This team really need Streit, so yes, he's been "worth" it so far. That will trend downward dramatically each season as he gets older/worse.

Emery has been adequate, thankfully Mason has been healthy.

Lecavalier is a colossal bust.
- bradleyc4

Streit may decline physically, but you are not considering that with age comes wisdom.

He had a good first month of the season! His shooting percentage was 19.2% for the first month and 17.4% for the 2nd month. His career shooting percentage is 12.4%. He was never going to sustain those numbers!
- PhillySportsGuy

Don't need him to sustain those numbers. Just need him to be the player that he was before the injury. And that was a player that was creating scoring chances, was strong on the puck, and was strong going to the net, when he was centering the 2nd line before the injury. Those numbers can't tell you that he won't be the same player if put back at Center. And even with a shooting percentage of 12%, he'd be a much more effective player then he has been at LW.

Ok, that is awesome.

- MBFlyerfan

it's really (frank)ing stupid, but it makes me laugh because it was a total accident.

In my opinion, it is. Patience is key with young power forwards. He's going to be a gem in a year or two.
- bradleyc4

At the very least, he's going to be part of a young and solid core at Center for the Flyers.

Now that you know Schenn is a capable 2nd line center, one or the other has to go.
- SchennBros

Is he?

I'm not sure.

Anything lesser would present the same issues as an inexperienced Schenn, no real 2nd line center. I still dont think the contract is out of line either.

I do believe that this situation will be resolved before the start of next season. Either one of Schenn or Couturier will be traded for a number 1 center, or Vinny will be traded. Now that you know Schenn is a capable 2nd line center, one or the other has to go.
- SchennBros

Very unlikely that VL is even tradeable at this point. He's on the team unless they decide to do a regular buyout of his contract.

Schenn is a potential trade asset to use to acquire a top pairing defenseman, so we'll see if that comes to fruition or not.

Yeah, a finesse player with a bad back asked to play a net-front role was always a head scratcher... save him for o-zone situations and play the crap out of him on the PP... it's just a more efficient use of the pieces at hand.
- Tomahawk

Lecavalier was not a finesse player before the back injury. He was a power forward who was hard to play against.

Don't need him to sustain those numbers. Just need him to be the player that he was before the injury. And that was a player that was creating scoring chances, was strong on the puck, and was strong going to the net, when he was centering the 2nd line before the injury. Those numbers can't tell you that he won't be the same player if put back at Center. And even with a shooting percentage of 12%, he'd be a much more effective player then he has been at LW.
- MJL

Without scoring, Vinny is next to useless. Vinny was playing poorly before being moved to LW on Schenns line. They've tried with with every line. He was bad with Couts and Read (On the RW I might add) and he was awful with G and Jake.

They tried these other combinations because the line of Hartnell-Schenn-Simmonds was so good at that time.

Anything lesser would present the same issues as an inexperienced Schenn, no real 2nd line center. I still dont think the contract is out of line either.

I do believe that this situation will be resolved before the start of next season. Either one of Schenn or Couturier will be traded for a number 1 center, or Vinny will be traded. Now that you know Schenn is a capable 2nd line center, one or the other has to go.
- SchennBros

Couturier isn't going anywhere.

Very unlikely that VL is even tradeable at this point. He's on the team unless they decide to do a regular buyout of his contract.

Schenn is a potential trade asset to use to acquire a top pairing defenseman, so we'll see if that comes to fruition or not.
- bradleyc4

I think a team would take Vinny if the Flyers eat some money. It may end up being better than buying him out and paying $1M over the next 8 years.

Vinny cannot be traded. I have too many t-shirts from former flyers to add another one. Carter, Richards, JVR, Bobrovsky, Bryz, Jagr all gone...

Lecavalier was beloved in TB. Obviously Yzerman had a good idea he was cooked, or he wouldn't have been a buyout.

His contract is going to be an albatross for the remaining term.
- PLindbergh31

That was about cap hit and nothing more. If Lecavalier's cap hit was 4.5M, I bet Yzerman would've loved to have kept him.

I think a team would take Vinny if the Flyers eat some money. It may end up being better than buying him out and paying $1M over the next 8 years.
- PhillySportsGuy

The amount of money they'd have to eat might be more than they'd have to pay in a buyout scenario.

Very unlikely that VL is even tradeable at this point. He's on the team unless they decide to do a regular buyout of his contract.

Schenn is a potential trade asset to use to acquire a top pairing defenseman, so we'll see if that comes to fruition or not.
- bradleyc4

I disagree. Vinny is a top 6 NHL talent on every team in the league.

The problem is his no movement clause, and that's it. THe reality of the situation is the Flyers brought this guy in on a 5 year deal. I don't know about the rest of you, but in no way shape or form has Vinny played so bad that we should be talking about buying him out after 3/4 of a season.

He's on the 4th line tonight. Big deal. He probably won't last there very long and is still a big part of this teams top-9 moving forward.

That being said, IF Vinny was interested in a trade and IF the Flyers could find a suitor, there's no doubt in my mind they move him.

Very unlikely that VL is even tradeable at this point. He's on the team unless they decide to do a regular buyout of his contract.

Schenn is a potential trade asset to use to acquire a top pairing defenseman, so we'll see if that comes to fruition or not.
- bradleyc4

I disagree. Vinny is a top 6 NHL talent on every team in the league.

The problem is his no movement clause, and that's it. THe reality of the situation is the Flyers brought this guy in on a 5 year deal. I don't know about the rest of you, but in no way shape or form has Vinny played so bad that we should be talking about buying him out after 3/4 of a season.

He's on the 4th line tonight. Big deal. He probably won't last there very long and is still a big part of this teams top-9 moving forward.

That being said, IF Vinny was interested in a trade and IF the Flyers could find a suitor, there's no doubt in my mind they move him.

I disagree. Vinny is a top 6 NHL talent on every team in the league.

The problem is his no movement clause, and that's it. THe reality of the situation is the Flyers brought this guy in on a 5 year deal. I don't know about the rest of you, but in no way shape or form has Vinny played so bad that we should be talking about buying him out after 3/4 of a season.

He's on the 4th line tonight. Big deal. He probably won't last there very long and is still a big part of this teams top-9 moving forward.

That being said, IF Vinny was interested in a trade and IF the Flyers could find a suitor, there's no doubt in my mind they move him.
- mochoson

He'll be centering the second line next season when they ship Schenn and others for a top defenseman.

Lecavalier was not a finesse player before the back injury. He was a power forward who was hard to play against.
- MJL

Schenn also gets no PP time. And quite a few players have gone some serious stretches without a goal this season, and most of them were seeing regular PP shifts. I'm not sure there's any connection with VL.
- wolfhounds

Schenn averages 2:15 a game on the PP

Anything lesser would present the same issues as an inexperienced Schenn, no real 2nd line center. I still dont think the contract is out of line either.

I do believe that this situation will be resolved before the start of next season. Either one of Schenn or Couturier will be traded for a number 1 center, or Vinny will be traded. Now that you know Schenn is a capable 2nd line center, one or the other has to go.
- SchennBros

Really? ...center position is the least of your flyers issues

That was about cap hit and nothing more. If Lecavalier's cap hit was 4.5M, I bet Yzerman would've loved to have kept him.
- MJL

Durability questions and declining numbers probably played a part as well. Smaller than money, no doubt, but still there.

In my opinion, it is. Patience is key with young power forwards. He's going to be a gem in a year or two.
- bradleyc4

He's ahead of where guys like Kesler, Mikko Koivu, David Backes were at the same age.

Really? ...center position is the least of your flyers issues
- TimB

I think he meant defenseman....I hope.

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Couturier-Read
Raffl-Lecavlier-Downie
McGinn-Hall-Rinaldo

Give me these lines before Lecavlier is on the 4th line. Just an opinion.

I disagree. Vinny is a top 6 NHL talent on every team in the league.

The problem is his no movement clause, and that's it. THe reality of the situation is the Flyers brought this guy in on a 5 year deal. I don't know about the rest of you, but in no way shape or form has Vinny played so bad that we should be talking about buying him out after 3/4 of a season.

He's on the 4th line tonight. Big deal. He probably won't last there very long and is still a big part of this teams top-9 moving forward.

That being said, IF Vinny was interested in a trade and IF the Flyers could find a suitor, there's no doubt in my mind they move him.
- mochoson

He's not skating like a top-6 forward this year. I don't know if it's injury-related or decline, but he's not a top-6 "talent" right now, imo.