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- PhillySportsGuy

Credible (i.e. not twitter) sources?

That's over valuing Schenn quite a bit. LeCav is the better player right this second.

Schenn - 72 GMs - 39 pts
LeCav - 59 GMs - 30 points

That's with a broken back and face. The team needs Vinny to play the best he can. That's at center. Schenn is still growing and learning, no reason to let him be our 2nd line center just yet. He hasn't even cone close to earning that privilege.

Good afternoon, forgot my manners!
- Flyersgod

The Flyers don't seem to think that.

Credible (i.e. not twitter) sources?
- jmatchett383

Espn front page news.

No, I don't think moving Schenn to Wing, as long as he is left there, messes him up. I actually think his skill set is better suited for the Wing then at Center.

All I know is in my opinion, the Flyers will be a better team with Lecavalier at 2nd line Center, and B Schenn on the Wing on the 2nd line. Then they will be with Schenn centering the 2nd line, with McGinn on the Wing.

The injury, and playing out of position is a factor in Lecavalier's production and numbers. Not the only factor certainly. But definitely a factor.
- MJL

The idea of agreeing with you infuriates me. How dare you sir!

Credible (i.e. not twitter) sources?
- jmatchett383

http://www.philadelphiaea...59-4eec-a8e6-2a086c874d76

Schenn will be a better two-way player, more physical and still produce 60 points. I don't really like Kadri. He seems pretty one dimensional.
- PhillySportsGuy

Oh does he SEEM that way to you? believe me you hit the nail on the head. He's physical but in a weasel kind of way (gallagher, marchand). I guess it depends on team needs, they both should be 2nd line centers. If you need strictly offense, go kadri. If you want more of an all round game, Schenn. Give me Schenn everyday though (2x on sundays)

The Flyers don't seem to think that.
- PhillySportsGuy

And of course they're never wrong or never rush prospects right?

No, I don't think moving Schenn to Wing, as long as he is left there, messes him up. I actually think his skill set is better suited for the Wing then at Center.

All I know is in my opinion, the Flyers will be a better team with Lecavalier at 2nd line Center, and B Schenn on the Wing on the 2nd line. Then they will be with Schenn centering the 2nd line, with McGinn on the Wing.

The injury, and playing out of position is a factor in Lecavalier's production and numbers. Not the only factor certainly. But definitely a factor.
- MJL

Like you said earlier: whatever is best for the team. Guess we'll see how it goes tonight and go from there. No doubt you could be right, but I have to hope and assume Chief knows what he is doing.

In my opinion, the comment was meant as a criticism towards Lecavalier, and basically saying the only reason he was productive was because of a beyond the norm shooting percentage. While ignoring that he was productive, simply because he was playing well.
- MJL

That's it in a nutshell.

so when are we getting gaudreau?

I'd rather Coots be our 2nd line center and let him gain some offensive mindedness.

Coots is better then schenn and will win up being our 2nd line center anyway. Vinny was a stop gap into one of them is ready.

Yup, not sure. The 4th line generated chances with Raffl because, imo, he's incredibly tenacious on the puck and that helped elevate the play of Rino and Hall who both seemed to gain a bit of confidence as a result. I know that line had some of the better chances last game vs the Rangers.

I don't really know what to expect with VL on the 4th line, but I'm hopeful...
- wolfhounds

The most telling part of the game against the Rangers was the fact that our 4th line was the best line the Flyers trotted out all night.

And of course they're never wrong or never rush prospects right?
- Flyersgod

No team, GM or coach is right all the time, that's for certain

The bottom line is that we all need to zoom out and see the big picture:

A regulation loss tonight is simply unacceptable, and the coach is responsible for setting these lines and getting the players to perform

I don't always agree with it, either -- but some games are more important than others, and they need to do whatever they can to make sure they don't lose in regulation tonight

Oh does he SEEM that way to you? believe me you hit the nail on the head. He's physical but in a weasel kind of way (gallagher, marchand). I guess it depends on team needs, they both should be 2nd line centers. If you need strictly offense, go kadri. If you want more of an all round game, Schenn. Give me Schenn everyday though (2x on sundays)
- clark_griswold

Yea. Im always a guy who likes all around play over strictly offense. Even if the offensive player will score a little more.

Flyers never seem to have a problem finding offense. They had a 15 game stretch to start the season where they couldn't score. Since then, they're right where the usually are.

I think Giroux, Schenn, Couturier sets us up pretty well at center for the foreseeable future. I like those 3 as a combo moving forward.

Credible (i.e. not twitter) sources?
- jmatchett383

He's gone...good riddance ...don't need thugs like him associated with the Eagles organization

And of course they're never wrong or never rush prospects right?
- Flyersgod

Never said that. I just think they know their own players really well. They've watch all the games several times and see them in practice every day.

so when are we getting gaudreau?
- PhillaBully

June 1st

I don't think anybody would confuse Schenn with a solid 2-way forward. But +/- can't be tossed aside so casually regardless of recent miscues.

But, putting defense aside, your general argument is that moving Vinny to center will likely benefit him while moving Schenn to wing likely won't hurt him?
- wolfhounds

Yes, my arguement is that I believe that makes the Flyers a better team.

I have not ever argued against, or disputed that Lecavalier has not been playing well and has not been an effective player for the Flyers for a while now. Not once have I disputed that. My opinion is based on what can they do to get him back to the level he was playing at before he went out with the injury. Noody can tell me that the Flyers aren't a better team with Lecavalier playing at that level. But some just want to push the narrative that he's toast and washed up, and that is the reason why he is not playing well. While ignoring the injury and position change to the left side, which he's never played before, as factors. While claiming that he's the only reason why the 2nd line has had issues defensively.

I don't understand how his entire career as a successful player can be ignored, while also ignoring his effective play as a Center before the injury this Season.
- MJL

He was good prior to the back injury, he has not been good since. The question is: will he ever get back to that level? No one really knows, but being 34 and coming off a back injury doesn't make me very optimistic. I truly hope he proves me wrong though!

That's it in a nutshell.
- bradleyc4

That is just another case of blindly misusing stats. Because a player can be an effective player offensively without having a high shooting percentage. By being strong on the puck, going to the net hard and creating scoring chances and havoc around the net. Which Lecavleir was doing well before the injury

Yes, my arguement is that I believe that makes the Flyers a better team.

I have not ever argued against, or disputed that Lecavalier has not been playing well and has not been an effective player for the Flyers for a while now. Not once have I disputed that. My opinion is based on what can they do to get him back to the level he was playing at before he went out with the injury. Noody can tell me that the Flyers aren't a better team with Lecavalier playing at that level. But some just want to push the narrative that he's toast and washed up, and that is the reason why he is not playing well. While ignoring the injury and position change to the left side, which he's never played before, as factors. While claiming that he's the only reason why the 2nd line has had issues defensively.
- MJL

Hitting the nail on the head.

They actually want Vinny to do bad.

He was good prior to the back injury, he has not been good since. The question is: will he ever get back to that level? No one really knows, but being 34 and coming off a back injury doesn't make me very optimistic. I truly hope he proves me wrong though!
- BiggE

I think it's pretty clear that it's not likely going to happen playing LW, nor do I think it's likley centering the 4th line. But we'll see.

He's gone...good riddance ...don't need thugs like him associated with the Eagles organization
- keatondixon

Was hoping they'd at least get a draft pick, wow this is surprising. Eagles must know some things about him that the public doesn't.

why would the eagles release jackson and not trade him?

That is just another case of blindly misusing stats. Because a player can be an effective player offensively without having a high shooting percentage. By being strong on the puck, going to the net hard and creating scoring chances and havoc around the net. Which Lecavleir was doing well before the injury
- MJL

I'm not misusing anything. I don't agree with you that he was as effective of a player prior to the injury as you make him out to be. Simple as that.