Ok, if the student-athletes want to go this way. Instead of giving them scholarships , room and board pay the amount in equal dollars in pay checks. Let them pay for their own tuition and go into debt when they're done with school because you know many will blow it on other things. Let the future NFLer's career cut short because he can't afford tuition. Have them pay for their own food, and where they live and let them pay income taxes. Get rid of student-athlete deveopment and no longer have study tables/hours and no longer have tutors. If they flunk, they flunk.

Eklund: Should US College Hockey Players Get Paid? Would More Leave Juniors?
- Eklund

no, not until the sports brings in revenues in excess of operating costs to the schools

Ok, if the student-athletes want to go this way. Instead of giving them scholarships , room and board pay the amount in equal dollars in pay checks. Let them pay for their own tuition and go into debt when they're done with school because you know many will blow it on other things. Let the future NFLer's career cut short because he can't afford tuition. Have them pay for their own food, and where they live and let them pay income taxes. Get rid of student-athlete deveopment and no longer have study tables/hours and no longer have tutors. If they flunk, they flunk.
- GilPerreault11

Here is an easy way to get the ball rolling in the direction the the big 5 conferences really want:

If you want to be a part of the BCS or NCAA tourney, then you, the school, must agree to pay taxable stipends. If you agree to that, you will be a part of the new D1 of the NCAA.
The NCAA will allot a percentage of gross revenues from non gate receipts, minus the amount to run said tournament/bowl that those institutions opting into the new D1 MUST use on athlete stipends. That money may not be used for salaries or any other institutional funding.

just a starting point, but believe me, this is what the big boys want. and the only way it happens is to get rid of the rest of us out of D1, because when this kind of thing comes to a vote, we "small" institutions vote against it.

And make no mistake, if this makes it past this initial level and actually takes hold, it will have a dramatic impact on ALL of the non revenue sports, which is everything outside of basketball and football.

And just wait until they try to pay just those two teams and exclude the women.
- nails

This is something I've wondered about: what happens to Title IX?

I'm assuming that if the NCAA is forced to pay salaries, Title IX gets quashed, but that would take time.

So in theory, if you start paying your football team, you'll have to dedicate that same amount of extra $ towards women's programs.

That's a lot of money to spend. Would they get equivalent salaries? And considering that there are a heckuva lot more football players on a team than field hockey, what would you do with all that extra $?

no, not until the sports brings in revenues in excess of operating costs to the schools
- watsonnostaw

So...start doing it in 1953?

This is something I've wondered about: what happens to Title IX?

I'm assuming that if the NCAA is forced to pay salaries, Title IX gets quashed, but that would take time.

So in theory, if you start paying your football team, you'll have to dedicate that same amount of extra $ towards women's programs.

That's a lot of money to spend. Would they get equivalent salaries? And considering that there are a heckuva lot more football players on a team than field hockey, what would you do with all that extra $?
- Atomic Wedgie

Title IX would be a disaster. They would try to comply by offering equal opportunities as they do now, but I think the money, actually paying players, would create problems.

the proposal I put out would allow for compliance by letting each institution offer stipends in proportionality, which would meet a compliance component. I would expect that the NCAA would reduce the minimum sport sponsorship numbers and instead require equal gender participation and then divvy the pay for athletes up in some proportional manner.


All of this discussion is predicated on the big 5 conferences even elect to stay with the NCAA.

Is the NCAA better than Juniors?
Wrll i would reply with, when was the last time an 18 year old superstar emerged from the NCAA to take te NHL by the storm, it just doesnt happen, most college "superstars come in to the league in their early twenties, certainly they have had more time to hone their skills, but the elite still come from juniors for the most part, even the euro superstars come in their 20s because theyve also taken more time, nothing wrong with taking more time to hone skills and probably even better in the long run especially for a two way game, but the above average players who are gifted still come from juniors
- sojiro9

Johnathan Toews didn't play juniors, but rather college hockey. Parise played college hockey, as well. More take the juniors route, but if you're going to pretend like skilled players never play college hockey over juniors then you don't look like you know what you're talking about. If you're wondering why 18 year old players don't come into the NHL out of college hockey and take the league by storm then you should probably re-read that and figure out the reason why yourself.

They do get paid....in tuition.

"They get 'some" schooling but nowhere near a college degree."

You might want to look into that one.....
- The-O-G

Not really. Plenty of student athletes that are not on scholarship paying their own way.

Pretty sure Ek is unaware that if WHL players are finished with their availability, they can achieve scholarships at Western Canadian universities while playing CIS Hockey.
http://www.chl.ca/page/whlinfo

So yes in fact many junior players do obtain college educations, about 3,500 scholarships they have given out in the program

So there you go Ek, here is your information that discredits your blog, you can go change it now
- DDM-Coga

Duh...then they're no longer Junior Players, right? The NCAA players get educations while playing for their teams.

I think being paid min wage while in season is more than fair and the ability to make money off a signature is more than fair.

Eklund: Should US College Hockey Players Get Paid? Would More Leave Juniors?
- Eklund

This is just terrible.

About time we are getting around to this, the ncaa is a joke and extorts its athletes. Who cares if half there players get a free education while the schools rape everyone else for tuition. How many people with a degree still have to work at safeway or cant get jobs in this rich get richer republican world. CANADIAN JUNIORS all the way at least a kid can except endorsements if hes that good.

you tell me. I was asking around about the schooling and tutoring kids in Canadian juniors and couldn't find anywhere they earned college degrees..is there an example of where they do? I would be glad to change this..
- Eklund

It depends on the school to be honest. Most large universities you can forget about a decent education if you play sports. I go to canisius which is a small school but we have some division 1 teams. Those athletes are in class everyday.

Athletes should be more worried about reading at a respectable level before worrying about getting paid


http://www.dailymail.co.u...ing-age-fifth-grader.html

If athletes should be paid then why shouldn't students? Top students?

It's a privilege to play a sport and it's free promoting for professional leagues

If they really want to be paid then they should be required to graduate
- dmarsden2988

Because I don't drink beer and watch top students study.

this pretty much sums up the people you consider your sources huh ek?
- RealityChecker

Johnathan Toews didn't play juniors, but rather college hockey. Parise played college hockey, as well. More take the juniors route, but if you're going to pretend like skilled players never play college hockey over juniors then you don't look like you know what you're talking about. If you're wondering why 18 year old players don't come into the NHL out of college hockey and take the league by storm then you should probably re-read that and figure out the reason why yourself.
- bluecoconuts

For the record an NCAA team would DESTROY a WHL team. Not even close.

Not really. Plenty of student athletes that are not on scholarship paying their own way.
- MnGump

Yup... not the elite calibre prospects that should be worrying about making it to the show.

Students shouldn't be seeing a paycheck, but I'd like to see the financial assistance rules lightened up a bit. The NCAA makes huge profits in the states, this money should be going towards reducing tuition and making schooling more affordable for all. They say some of that money does go back to the school, but I can guarantee that someone is making massive paychecks off these kids. My university tuition runs around $7,000 per year, I couldn't imagine paying $80,000 (that's not even an elite school). This money should go towards making education accessible to all, not just the rich, or the ones who are good at playing a sport.

So...start doing it in 1953?
- Atomic Wedgie

NCAA hockey has always been a money loser in regard to operating costs to revenues, most schools rely on football or basketball to support the other sports

There's a really good documentary, Schooled: the price of college sports, that goes over all of these issues. Worth checking out if it's a topic that interests you, while schools make lots of money off of athletes, the NCAA does as well, and their profits are directly related to keeping college players unable to earn a salary.

Students shouldn't be seeing a paycheck, but I'd like to see the financial assistance rules lightened up a bit. The NCAA makes huge profits in the states, this money should be going towards reducing tuition and making schooling more affordable for all. They say some of that money does go back to the school, but I can guarantee that someone is making massive paychecks off these kids. My university tuition runs around $7,000 per year, I couldn't imagine paying $80,000 (that's not even an elite school). This money should go towards making education accessible to all, not just the rich, or the ones who are good at playing a sport.
- Saskabush

Any other student is allowed to make money off of their skills, computer science, math, writing, art, only athletes are restricted, and it's all due to the NCAA.

Eklund: Should US College Hockey Players Get Paid? Would More Leave Juniors?
- Eklund

hmmmmmm, let me ponder

That's a lot less than they earn for the institutions they play for.
- wolfhounds

This sounds like Marxism.

NO! Never!

They wanna get paid they can get a job!!

NCAA hockey has always been a money loser in regard to operating costs to revenues, most schools rely on football or basketball to support the other sports
- watsonnostaw

The average US school ( that means most of them) Lose $3m annually on football. The select few actually make money, a lot of it.