Eklund: Should US College Hockey Players Get Paid? Would More Leave Juniors?
- Eklund

Pretty simple, those schools will then drop their programs(especially the one's who don't generate a whole lot of revenue anyways. Basketball and Football are the only big time cash cows.

South Park: Crack Baby Basketball Association

Pretty much sums up what's going on

Athletes should be more worried about reading at a respectable level before worrying about getting paid


http://www.dailymail.co.u...ing-age-fifth-grader.html

If athletes should be paid then why shouldn't students? Top students?

It's a privilege to play a sport and it's free promoting for professional leagues

If they really want to be paid then they should be required to graduate

What about this kids who suffer brutal life changing injuries and then get their scholarship and essentially their life taken away? Happens in every sports across the country every year. Many of them actually receive a bill in the mail.
- Buffalo-Sabres

That's B.S. The kid from Rutgers, who was paralyzed, He's not abandoned by Rutgers. Name examples of this happening

You should ask the football programs in the big 5 what they really care about. It isn't health care.
- nails

What I said has nothing to do with what football programs care about at all. It's what the athletes care about.

If we were concerned what big football programs cared about, things would just stay the same. It's about the health of the athletes.

Believe it or not, football is decreasing in popularity among kids (to play) because they are seeing the long term health risks associated with it. In the long term, this will effect the sport in general. So they should care about it, but I know they don't.

The players, however, definitely care.

That's B.S. The kid from Rutgers, who was paralyzed, He's not abandoned by Rutgers. Name examples of this happening
- twpguy

You are correct, it is hard for a university to abandon a player that suffers a life changing injury while playing there (especially one as serious as paralysis).

The union is focused on injuries that don't present themselves until later in life. Head injuries etc.

The athletes? I daresay the college would no longer be a college and would instead be a sporting franchise.
- wolfhounds

Exactly. They want to basically become pro's, treat them like it. I mean the band puts in lots of hours dedicated too the school, they get paid too? This whole subject WILL NOT go through, book it!

thats what the league needs, kids getting paid at younger ages so when/if they get to the show, they now can use the leverage, I was getting paid more than that in College.

You want to let contracts get out of control sooner, just start paying them in college and Junior, but its the NHL we love lock outs.

What I said has nothing to do with what football programs care about at all. It's what the athletes care about.

If we were concerned what big football programs cared about, things would just stay the same. It's about the health of the athletes.

Believe it or not, football is decreasing in popularity among kids (to play) because they are seeing the long term health risks associated with it. In the long term, this will effect the sport in general. So they should care about it, but I know they don't.

The players, however, definitely care.
- SolidGoldBricks

Actually, Moms care and aren't letting little johnny play football.

I agree that the health angle is noble and absolutely something that should happen, but I do not know of an instance where a scholarship athlete has injured themselves on the field and had their scholarship yanked, regardless of year. Poor play, poor grades, detrimental conduct...sure, especially at the big schools. But I know that our NLI has a provision that says the scholarship will not be "non-renewed" due to injury that occurred during competition or practice.
Not saying it hasn't happened, but not to my knowledge has it happened. And anyone who did not immediately appeal and win had something else going on.

you tell me. I was asking around about the schooling and tutoring kids in Canadian juniors and couldn't find anywhere they earned college degrees..is there an example of where they do? I would be glad to change this..
- Eklund

this pretty much sums up the people you consider your sources huh ek?

You are correct, it is hard for a university to abandon a player that suffers a life changing injury while playing there (especially one as serious as paralysis).

The union is focused on injuries that don't present themselves until later in life. Head injuries etc.
- SolidGoldBricks

My argument to that would be, prove that it didn't happen in high school.
or during club sports/intermurals that everyone thinks they should be able to play.
or the car accident they got into after partying one night their freshman year.

YES. College athletes should be paid. But they shouldn't get scholarships. Or live on campus. Or go to class. Or be enrolled in classes. Or be students of the college they play for.

What? You want those things? Then you are the rare "student athlete" that we haven't seen in large numbers since the 60s. If you want to be a student athlete, you don't need to get paid. Your tuition, room and board, and use of the athletic facilities is enough. If you choose to leave school (or flunk out) prior to graduation, then you can be paid retroactively your salary that you would have obtained prior, and you are subsequently on the hook for all that college education and boarding you received without paying for it.

Simple as that. Either you're a pro athlete playing for a school, or you're a student who is playing a sport. You don't get to be both. However, legitimate student athletes should be allowed to have part time jobs and make money from the sale of their name/memorabilia.

this pretty much sums up the people you consider your sources huh ek?
- RealityChecker

Pretty sure Ek is unaware that if WHL players are finished with their availability, they can achieve scholarships at Western Canadian universities while playing CIS Hockey.
http://www.chl.ca/page/whlinfo

So yes in fact many junior players do obtain college educations, about 3,500 scholarships they have given out in the program

So there you go Ek, here is your information that discredits your blog, you can go change it now

you tell me. I was asking around about the schooling and tutoring kids in Canadian juniors and couldn't find anywhere they earned college degrees..is there an example of where they do? I would be glad to change this..
- Eklund

God forbid you have to do your own research for the articles you make $$$ from...

you tell me. I was asking around about the schooling and tutoring kids in Canadian juniors and couldn't find anywhere they earned college degrees..is there an example of where they do? I would be glad to change this..
- Eklund

http://www.whl.ca/page/faqs

See points 7 and 9.

http://www.whl.ca/page/faqs

See points 7 and 9.
- Tayboz

Yup and here is the website about the program
http://www.chl.ca/page/whlinfo.

a simple google search who had been enough research for this blog, but nah

Yup and here is the website about the program
http://www.chl.ca/page/whlinfo.

a simple google search who had been enough research for this blog, but nah
- DDM-Coga

Ek might want to take a look at the current CIS champion UofA Golden Bears roster... All former CHL players earning degrees.

Actually, Moms care and aren't letting little johnny play football.

I agree that the health angle is noble and absolutely something that should happen, but I do not know of an instance where a scholarship athlete has injured themselves on the field and had their scholarship yanked, regardless of year. Poor play, poor grades, detrimental conduct...sure, especially at the big schools. But I know that our NLI has a provision that says the scholarship will not be "non-renewed" due to injury that occurred during competition or practice.
Not saying it hasn't happened, but not to my knowledge has it happened. And anyone who did not immediately appeal and win had something else going on.
- nails

Talk to some kids, less and less want to play football, it's not just their mums (although that is a big contributing factor too). (I also don't actually recommend talking to kids, they are obnoxious)

The NCAA can't take a scholarship when a player is injured - even if it ends their career. I was an NCAA athlete and can back that up. There are rules preventing it.

Ek might want to take a look at the current CIS champion UofA Golden Bears roster... All former CHL players earning degrees.
- Tayboz

Anyone living in Canada already knew that lots of CHL players get educations after they are done with Junoirs. Chances you are friends of or know of an example personally

My argument to that would be, prove that it didn't happen in high school.
or during club sports/intermurals that everyone thinks they should be able to play.
or the car accident they got into after partying one night their freshman year.
- nails

No way to prove it, hence the union.

Same as any other union, really. You can't necessarily prove that an auto worker was injured on the assembly line, but he still may get worker's comp.

My guess is this would be weighted on injuries that happened while in college. Concussions are documented, etc.

They do... it's called a scholarship.

For a detailed analysis, Terry Frei has a great article on it.

Not sure about hockey, but football yes. If you earn a scholarship, you get it until you graduate as long as you are full time student and maintain a min GPA. A small salary would be fine, nothing much, you cant really work while attending class and being on a team. And you should be able to sign something and then sell it and also if someone gives you something it should be yours. Just because the NCAA doesn't get a piece of the pie doesn't mean you cant make $$ off your signature.

They do get paid....in tuition.

"They get 'some" schooling but nowhere near a college degree."

You might want to look into that one.....
- The-O-G

Beat me to it...
the tuition they get paid for them is usually to top level schools to boot!
If it's me... the likelihood of making the NHL from either league is equal for a top level talent.
If your kid is a middling talent in either league... go the school route as they are likely to not make the show. If they do... great... if they don't at least they have an education to fall back or build upon.

Talk to some kids, less and less want to play football, it's not just their mums (although that is a big contributing factor too). (I also don't actually recommend talking to kids, they are obnoxious)

The NCAA can't take a scholarship when a player is injured - even if it ends their career. I was an NCAA athlete and can back that up. There are rules preventing it.
- SolidGoldBricks

No! College= Getting a degree and possibly getting into the NHL, the hell is wrong with America!