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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
It's interesting there -- Umberger's cap hit is something like $4.5 per year, and Columbus, I guess, doesn't have the cash flow to keep a player who is paid that who isn't producing at that level

I definitely got the impression that they'd feel better about him if he was making $1.5

- AllInForFlyers


I guess. Flyers live in a world where money doesn't matter unless its preventing them from spending more of it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
I liked Jersey Girl and I won't accept negative judgement for it.
- johndewar


Big Bennifer guy?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
I give them credit for it, because they deserve it.

But they're gonna eat Richards' contract. That's just gonna happen, if not now, then soon

- AllInForFlyers


Yup, either they eat it, or they keep a piece of it and move him. Either way it's going to be painful for the Kings.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
I guess. Flyers live in a world where money doesn't matter unless its preventing them from spending more of it.
- PhillySportsGuy


Pretty much. If there was no cap, there is no doubt in my mind that the Flyers, Leafs, Red Wings and Rangers would all have payrolls at or near $100 million by now. The Ed Snider-Comcast combo is pretty much a bottomless pit when it comes to cash.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Yeah, I think if Columbus is willing to eat 20-30% of the contract and cap hit, they will have no problem dealing Umberger. He can still be a very effective 3rd line player who can chip in 20 goals and 40 points and help out on special teams.
- BiggE


And to be fair, while Ryan Johansen is having a breakout season, the centers on Columbus are not exactly point-producing machines, assist machines.

Maybe if somebody buys low on Umberger, they get something out of him...he's still a big body
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Yeah, I think if Columbus is willing to eat 20-30% of the contract and cap hit, they will have no problem dealing Umberger. He can still be a very effective 3rd line player who can chip in 20 goals and 40 points and help out on special teams.
- BiggE


He has 18 goals this year, good for 3rd on CBJ, so I'm not too ready to write RJ's hockey obit just yet.

Mike Richards' decline, to me, is a bit galling. I would not have foreseen this.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
Wish me luck boys, I'm off to play some guitar tonight!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
He has 18 goals this year, good for 3rd on CBJ, so I'm not too ready to write RJ's hockey obit just yet.

Mike Richards' decline, to me, is a bit galling. I would not have foreseen this.

- johndewar


Well, he's not real fast, kind of small and has had a lot of injuries. Plus bangin playboy bunnies and C list starlets must be very draining!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
Big Bennifer guy?
- PhillySportsGuy


Nah, I like Kevin Smith's movies and I liked what he tried to do with that movie.

If it wasn't for that Bennifer thing (and SPOILERS, she was only in the movie for 10 minutes), I think the movie would be better thought of.

Watching that movie now, divorced from that whole tabloid mess, and the flick really isn't bad at all.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
Wish me luck boys, I'm off to play some guitar tonight!
- BiggE

Have fun!

I had a right brain moment and wrote lyrics to my song in Db this morning. Took me like 15 minutes
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
Have fun!

I had a right brain moment and wrote lyrics to my song in Db this morning. Took me like 15 minutes

- Giroux_Is_God

AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 21 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yup, either they eat it, or they keep a piece of it and move him. Either way it's going to be painful for the Kings.
- BiggE


I can't even fathom keeping a piece of his contract -- not because he's done anything wrong, but...I don't stalk the guy, but I see bits and pieces of him from time to time, and it's bad.

He's 29 years old. He has nine goals in 70 games. He certainly still plays tough and still has hockey sense, defensive awareness, so he's not killing you when he's on the ice...but his stride is like an old man's.

He's why I'm terrified of signing a guy like Ryan Callahan. Callahan's a better skater, but OMG. When those guys go...there's no turning back.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
Wish me luck boys, I'm off to play some guitar tonight!
- BiggE


Rip it, Old Man!
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
I liked Jersey Girl and I won't accept negative judgement for it.
- johndewar


Dude. Ben Aflack.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 21 @ 5:27 PM ET
I can't even fathom keeping a piece of his contract -- not because he's done anything wrong, but...I don't stalk the guy, but I see bits and pieces of him from time to time, and it's bad.

He's 29 years old. He has nine goals in 70 games. He certainly still plays tough and still has hockey sense, defensive awareness, so he's not killing you when he's on the ice...but his stride is like an old man's.

He's why I'm terrified of signing a guy like Ryan Callahan. Callahan's a better skater, but OMG. When those guys go...there's no turning back.

- AllInForFlyers

Does LA have buyouts? I feel like he's certainly a candidate. He's got...if I remember correctly...37 years left on his deal?

No but really it's probably still like 11 years right??
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
Best time of year all!
It feels like yesterday that Briere went in on Henrik in that shootout.

Im enjoying the ride and glad to see L Schenn fulfilling some of that top 5 potential, i still forget how young he is.

I really feel that Coutourier will be DOMINANT in this league, and he is being underutilized in his role, he is absolutely top 6 material; shutdown center or not.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
Does LA have buyouts? I feel like he's certainly a candidate. He's got...if I remember correctly...37 years left on his deal?

No but really it's probably still like 11 years right??

- Giroux_Is_God


You know this isnt a bad point. LA might use the buyout.... Richards might be back next year... Playing with Couturier and Read.

PK..

Richards-Giroux (best offensive PK ever)
Read-Couturier
Laughton-Raffl
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
Does LA have buyouts? I feel like he's certainly a candidate. He's got...if I remember correctly...37 years left on his deal?

No but really it's probably still like 11 years right??

- Giroux_Is_God


I think they might...not everybody used both of theirs.

They might not pull the trigger that quickly, but...maybe they should, because IIRC, this is the last offseason where you can do it without counting against your cap.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
You know this isnt a bad point. LA might use the buyout.... Richards might be back next year... Playing with Couturier and Read.

PK..

Richards-Giroux (best offensive PK ever)
Read-Couturier
Laughton-Raffl

- SchennBros


I never say never, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that if Mike Richards is bought out, there are two franchises he won't be playing for next season: Los Angeles and Philadelphia.

That ship done sailed
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
Best time of year all!
It feels like yesterday that Briere went in on Henrik in that shootout.

Im enjoying the ride and glad to see L Schenn fulfilling some of that top 5 potential, i still forget how young he is.

I really feel that Coutourier will be DOMINANT in this league, and he is being underutilized in his role, he is absolutely top 6 material; shutdown center or not.

- DrMidnite


But he is going to suck in 10 years... When they go down they go down fast and hard... Like my mother-in-law.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 21 @ 5:34 PM ET
he was never on the flyers
- 2Real

He has 63 games with them
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
I never say never, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that if Mike Richards is bought out, there are two franchises he won't be playing for next season: Los Angeles and Philadelphia.

That ship done sailed

- AllInForFlyers


I dont know man... the coke in Philly is primo-shyt and the Jersey Shore biotches put out like its going out of style....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 5:37 PM ET
Richards was never going to age well, because of his skating, but even I wouldn't have guessed it would be this fast and this dramatic
- AllInForFlyers


I think Mike Richards downfall is being exaggerated. He's still a good playmaker, and a solid all around player. His goal scoring is down.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 21 @ 5:38 PM ET
I think Mike Richards downfall is being exaggerated. He's still a good playmaker, and a solid all around player. His goal scoring is down.
- MJL


Is he still worth 5.8 million a season for what... 8 years?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 21 @ 5:38 PM ET
I never say never, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that if Mike Richards is bought out, there are two franchises he won't be playing for next season: Los Angeles and Philadelphia.

That ship done sailed

- AllInForFlyers


I don't even know where he'd fit on this team, even if you did want to entertain the notion.

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