It didn't, it really didn't.
- RynoBull

I aint got no nuthin.

When he left part of me held onto hope we'd throw a nice contract at him come July, now I couldn't care less. I think he's got a big dose of reality coming his way in the future.
- Buffalo-Sabres

IMO the flooded market for scoring wingers at the deadline will carry over to free agency and those guys won't get near what people excpect. I wouldnt suprise me one bit to see Vanek and say Callahan get similar money

IMO the flooded market for scoring wingers at the deadline will carry over to free agency and those guys won't get near what people excpect. I wouldnt suprise me one bit to see Vanek and say Callahan get similar money
- sbroads24

I think Vanek will get a similar dollar amount as his current contract has. About 7M. Probably only a 5-6 year deal though

IMO the flooded market for scoring wingers at the deadline will carry over to free agency and those guys won't get near what people excpect. I wouldnt suprise me one bit to see Vanek and say Callahan get similar money
- sbroads24

If Vanek wants to blame every team he's been on for the lack of success, what does he do when he goes to Minny and they get tossed in the first or second round? Then where do you go? He should have kept his focus on putting pucks in the net, that's what he did here. Same with Miller. They probably assume in St. Louis they have all but won the cup, but what if they don't? What If they don't get close? Then where's the love?

I think Vanek will get a similar dollar amount as his current contract has. About 7M. Probably only a 5-6 year deal though
- Stripes77

Yea 7 sounds about right. I think Corey Perry was better off resigning for what he did. Even if he would be the best available, I don't see wingers getting huge deals with all the options available

If Vanek wants to blame every team he's been on for the lack of success, what does he do when he goes to Minny and they get tossed in the first or second round? Then where do you go? He should have kept his focus on putting pucks in the net, that's what he did here. Same with Miller. They probably assume in St. Louis they have all but won the cup, but what if they don't? What If they don't get close? Then where's the love?
- Buffalo-Sabres

I don't think you can group Miller and Vanek in that same category. Nobody takes losing more to heart than Miller. The look on his face in 2010 after losing the gold medal game says enough. Miller will always be the one that wants to win no matter what. I have never gotten that vibe from Vanek.

I have lost a ton of respect for him. As much as I thought he was over rated here as a player, I always thought he was a good character guy. Now I'm not so sure.
- sbroads24

Ive been saying this ever since he signed that ridiculous offer sheet with the Edmonton Oilers.

He wasnt willing to put the team first and come to an agreement with the team over a reasonable contract. Instead he held out and chased money he never deserved or lived up to, and boarded the first plane out of town. Unfortunately for Buffalo, we chose to cancel the flight.

That move said everything you needed to know about his character.

Enroth probably done for season...

http://instagram.com/p/lp51sLL9Qs/#

I don't think you can group Miller and Vanek in that same category. Nobody takes losing more to heart than Miller. The look on his face in 2010 after losing the gold medal game says enough. Miller will always be the one that wants to win no matter what. I have never gotten that vibe from Vanek.
- Stripes77

I think both players think they are better than they are and both take for granted their opportunities in the NHL. They both seem to think they deserve to be placed on a championship team without working for it. Both better hope things work out this year or both may find the reality the planned on July 1st might change.

Enroth probably done for season...

http://instagram.com/p/lp51sLL9Qs/#


- theblueandgold

Well...at least he bought the right next gen console

Enroth probably done for season...

http://instagram.com/p/lp51sLL9Qs/#


- theblueandgold

A least he has a PS4

I think both players think they are better than they are and both take for granted their opportunities in the NHL. They both seem to think they deserve to be placed on a championship team without working for it. Both better hope things work out this year or both may find the reality the planned on July 1st might change.
- Buffalo-Sabres

???

Not to start an argument here but what gives you that notion about Miller? IMO you couldnt be more wrong about him. There is a reason Murray went out and said publicly they wanted to do right by him in a deal. He out of the entire dissembled core was the only one that worked and worked and worked and worked all the time. Sure Miller had bad games here and there but I don't think anybody would ever call him lazy

???

Not to start an argument here but what gives you that notion about Miller? IMO you couldnt be more wrong about him. There is a reason Murray went out and said publicly they wanted to do right by him in a deal. He out of the entire dissembled core was the only one that worked and worked and worked and worked all the time. Sure Miller had bad games here and there but I don't think anybody would ever call him lazy
- Stripes77

Never used the word lazy. I don't appreciate you using words I didn't. I said I felt they deserved to placed on a championship team. As if the Millions of dollars aren't enough. There have been plenty of professional athletes who have played on sub par team with grace for years. That's life. Some handle it differently.

Never used the word lazy. I don't appreciate you using words I didn't. I said I felt they deserved to placed on a championship team. As if the Millions of dollars aren't enough. There have been plenty of professional athletes who have played on sub par team with grace for years. That's life. Some handle it differently.
- Buffalo-Sabres

The Lebron James' of the world have set a poor precedent. Now you seem to see players leave for 'contenders' much more.

For all the people who hated Darcy and thought he was clueless as a GM.
- buffalo 1

Darcy could rip a team apart, but hasn't been able to build one for years. Hugged his players too tight, kept that weak core together far too long and should have been fired years ago. Devine seemed like the one with a clue at last year's draft table.

Never used the word lazy. I don't appreciate you using words I didn't. I said I felt they deserved to placed on a championship team. As if the Millions of dollars aren't enough. There have been plenty of professional athletes who have played on sub par team with grace for years. That's life. Some handle it differently.
- Buffalo-Sabres

You said to be placed on a championship team without working for it. In my eyes that would be a longer way to say they are lazy but regardless you still haven't answered my question as why you think Miller belongs in the same category as Vanek?

What exactly has Miller done or said that has put him in the Vanek boat? I don't see Miller going out of his way trying to save face after a debacle in 2 organizations in less than a year. In fact I don't think Miller could have handled his departure here any better. He also didn't take a shot at the Sabres like Vanek did. You also don't read about Miller going out and getting drunk at the Olympics etc. I guess I just don't follow you with Miller here at all. Vanek I am with you on that.

The Lebron James' of the world have set a poor precedent. Now you seem to see players leave for 'contenders' much more.
- Pierceme69

He along with ESPN made it into this huge ordeal. I would be my house that you won't see that happening with Ryan Miller. Besides the fact that ESPN doesn't cover hockey but even if they did it wouldn't happen

Darcy could rip a team apart, but hasn't been able to build one for years. Hugged his players too tight, kept that weak core together far too long and should have been fired years ago. Devine seemed like the one with a clue at last year's draft table.
- GilPerreault11

Nobody gives Darcy credit for building the best team in Sabres history. But everyone is the first to jump in and blame Darcy for losing Briere and Drury. For signing Vanek to the offer sheet. These 3 moves changed the direction of the franchise. These were all moves by the current owner at the time. Internal cap restricted us from giving Briere and Drury the money they deserved to keep both. We were forced to cut ties with one of them which ultimately led to losing both. Then when Vanek signed the offer sheet, the owner wouldnt accept letting him go and told Darcy to match anything. Didnt want the fans irate at losing 3 key members in one offseason and uprising against him. But he did a good job passing the blame on to Darcy...

Look at Garth Snow as a GM under Wang. He has tight leash on him towards spending. If they held back salary on Vanek, they wouldve gotten a much better return that was better for their franchise, the owner (frank)ed him. Made him look like an incompetent GM. Same situation Darcy was under pre-Pegula.

Restrictive owners hurt GM's. With the assets Darcy was collecting there are no doubts he couldve built this team back to glory. He did it once before and all it took was 1 top 5 pick in Vanek and a couple jedi mind trick trades for veterans.

Nobody gives Darcy credit for building the best team in Sabres history. But everyone is the first to jump in and blame Darcy for losing Briere and Drury. For signing Vanek to the offer sheet. These 3 moves changed the direction of the franchise. These were all moves by the current owner at the time. Internal cap restricted us from giving Briere and Drury the money they deserved to keep both. We were forced to cut ties with one of them which ultimately led to losing both. Then when Vanek signed the offer sheet, the owner wouldnt accept letting him go and told Darcy to match anything. Didnt want the fans irate at losing 3 key members in one offseason and uprising against him. But he did a good job passing the blame on to Darcy...

Look at Garth Snow as a GM under Wang. He has tight leash on him towards spending. If they held back salary on Vanek, they wouldve gotten a much better return that was better for their franchise, the owner (frank)ed him. Made him look like an incompetent GM. Same situation Darcy was under pre-Pegula.

Restrictive owners hurt GM's. With the assets Darcy was collecting there are no doubts he couldve built this team back to glory. He did it once before and all it took was 1 top 5 pick in Vanek and a couple jedi mind trick trades for veterans.
- theblueandgold

He did build that team but where was the Cup? He failed to make moves at the deadline to push us over the edge. He never showed he had it in him to go out and make that move to put a team over the edge. His big move after given the chance to spend more money was go get Brad Boyes. Sorry he builds mediocrity he caught lightning in a bottle for 2 years

He did build that team but where was the Cup? He failed to make moves at the deadline to push us over the edge. He never showed he had it in him to go out and make that move to put a team over the edge. His big move after given the chance to spend more money was go get Brad Boyes. Sorry he builds mediocrity he caught lightning in a bottle for 2 years.
- Stripes77

I agree that he failed to compete those teams, but I disagree about the lightning in the bottle, I think he knew what kind of team he was building.

The moves he made for guys like Hecht, Dumont, Breire, Drury, etc were all key moves. He hit on guys like Pommer and Miller in the draft.

He needed to go, but he isn't as awful as some think IMO

He did build that team but where was the Cup? He failed to make moves at the deadline to push us over the edge. He never showed he had it in him to go out and make that move to put a team over the edge. His big move after given the chance to spend more money was go get Brad Boyes. Sorry he builds mediocrity he caught lightning in a bottle for 2 years
- Stripes77

The cup was close. You cant foreshadow at the TDL and see that 3-4 of your D wont be able to play in the ECF because of injury. How do you even stack your depth to provide replacements for that many missing NHL D?

You're never guaranteed a cup. The "favorites" each year hardly win the cup. I give a lot more credit to Darcy for building the team that made 2 straight ECF's than I give any of the Penguins or Blackhawks GM's for picking elite talent in the top 3... If he is given the money to re-sign Drury and Briere, how do you know he doesnt tweak his roster more? Never got that chance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...alo-sabres-145956101.html

Nobody gives Darcy credit for building the best team in Sabres history. But everyone is the first to jump in and blame Darcy for losing Briere and Drury. For signing Vanek to the offer sheet. These 3 moves changed the direction of the franchise. These were all moves by the current owner at the time. Internal cap restricted us from giving Briere and Drury the money they deserved to keep both. We were forced to cut ties with one of them which ultimately led to losing both. Then when Vanek signed the offer sheet, the owner wouldnt accept letting him go and told Darcy to match anything. Didnt want the fans irate at losing 3 key members in one offseason and uprising against him. But he did a good job passing the blame on to Darcy...

Look at Garth Snow as a GM under Wang. He has tight leash on him towards spending. If they held back salary on Vanek, they wouldve gotten a much better return that was better for their franchise, the owner (frank)ed him. Made him look like an incompetent GM. Same situation Darcy was under pre-Pegula.

Restrictive owners hurt GM's. With the assets Darcy was collecting there are no doubts he couldve built this team back to glory. He did it once before and all it took was 1 top 5 pick in Vanek and a couple jedi mind trick trades for veterans.
- theblueandgold

Best team in Sabres history? I'd bet 1974-75 was a better team. Anyway, Darcy didn't add depth to the D at the dealine the year they lost to Carolina, the Sabres haven't had a stud forward, except for Darcy lucking out with Briere in his 17 years as a GM. Briere was the only top line center they have had in his many, many years as the GM and he was a small center. He stupidly built the team around a supplemental, hot and cold player like Vanek after he put all his cards in signing Drury and then lost both Briere and Drury. Darcy was deficient in his role as GM. Drafting sucked too by the way.

Best team in Sabres history? I'd bet 1974-75 was a better team. Anyway, Darcy didn't add depth to the D at the dealine the year they lost to Carolina, the Sabres haven't had a stud forward, except for Darcy lucking out with Briere in his 17 years as a GM. Briere was the only top line center they have had in his many, many years as the GM and he was a small center. He stupidly built the team around a supplemental, hot and cold player like Vanek after he put all his cards in signing Drury and then lost both Briere and Drury. Darcy was deficient in his role as GM. Drafting sucked too by the way.
- GilPerreault11

Most points and President's trophy say they were the best Sabres team.

Most points and President's trophy say they were the best Sabres team.
- Pierceme69

They had 113 pts in 1974-75 how many points did they have when they won the Presidents Trophy? I'd take Perreault, Martin, Robert, Gare, Luce and Ramsay over Briere, Drury, Vanek, Connolly and Roy every friggen day of the week.