he's a leaf troll
- sensarmy_11

I have the same impression. He has the personnality right That is funny. I thought immediately the same thing.

I never saw a Nashville fan like him before. Only Leafs. There's a first for anything right Prock? You're pioneer!! Your own kind

McDavid will end up in Buffalo, NYI, Florida , Edmonton or Nashville..
- Erik6Karlsson5

I think you mean: McDavid will end up in Buffalo, Buffalo, Florida , Edmonton or Nashville..

The Isles won't have that pick.

Embarassing for Karlsson, that's for sure.
- prock

TRY and convince me you wouldn't want Karlsson on your team..


I don't get how people bash Karlsson......If he had a reliable partner, the odd giveaway is a complete non-factor.

As I said, that's the 6th highest cap hit of all centres. As you acknowledge, he's nowhere near top 6 in the league.

How can that be going rate?
- prock

still a better contract than phaneuf

but isnt that the ideal deal that EM loves to have right now, saves him money
- DDM-Coga

this year yes, but I knid of sense this wont last long.

still a better contract than phaneuf
- sensarmy_11

Not really. Phaneuf offers more to a team than Spezza does.

TRY and convince me you wouldn't want Karlsson on your team..


I don't get how people bash Karlsson......If he had a reliable partner, the odd giveaway is a complete non-factor.
- Jordo

Still, they would take him tomorow on their team.

Not really. Phaneuf offers more to a team than Spezza does.
- prock

beyond a hot wife, he doesn't offer much.

among 10 highest cap hits among dmen..........NOT EVEN CLOSE to top 10 in actual ability

The Sens lost their heart and soul at the start of this season. Explain how things have "went right" for them this year??

Your hate for the Sens is hilarious, and it clouds your objective judgement.

Spezz is a point per game player over a LONG sample size. There's only a select few that can say that.

I'm not saying he's in the top 5, or even the top 10 in the league- but saying he's tremendously overpaid at 7mil (4mil actual $) is hilarious.

That's going rate for a #1 Centre.. But then again, what do you know about a #1 C, you haven't had one since Sundin left.
- Jordo

And when I say things went right, I mean with the roster they have. Spezza stayed healthy, which is pretty incredible. Turris and Macarthur played way above their heads for a good portion of the season. 7 points combined in their last 10 games. Much closer to what they've done the rest of their careers.

Spezza gets hurt (long overdue), Turris and Macarthur continue at their current pace, which is more likely than they actually score, and you've got a basement team.

Yeah, I'd say it took a lot to go right for the Sens to land where they did.

beyond a hot wife, he doesn't offer much.

among 10 highest cap hits among dmen..........NOT EVEN CLOSE to top 10 in actual ability
- sensarmy_11

He's played pretty close to top 10 this year.

Edler and a 2nd for Spezza?
- pmg2008

Why?

Why the hell would anyone trade a top pairing dman for a second rate oft-injured declining guy like Spezza?

Spezza and a first maybe? But do you do that if you're the Sens? Their next first round pick could land Connor McDavid.
- prock

I do agree i would make that trade but your characterization of Spezza isn't exactly accurate either. Not counting the lockout season(which did have his only recent substantial injury) he's averaged 72 games played a season for the past decade, how is that injury prone?

He's still only 30 and if you put him with decent line mates i bet you he gets back to 30 or so goals, 70+ pts a season.

He's played pretty close to top 10 this year.
- prock

thanks for the location quote

I thought this was cleared up a few days ago. It has been confirmed $71 Million.
- A_Tree

I thought so too....Was it not said the other day by the NHL that it would still be at 71........I did here it,just dont know where!!

I do agree i would make that trade but your characterization of Spezza isn't exactly accurate either. Not counting the lockout season(which did have his only recent substantial injury) he's averaged 72 games played a season for the past decade, how is that injury prone?

He's still only 30 and if you put him with decent line mates i bet you he gets back to 30 or so goals, 70+ pts a season.
- nikel

are you kidding? He's missed at least 20 games, three of the past 4 seasons. He's got major back issues. Here is his injury summary from the past 4 seasons plus this one:

2009-10-29 Senators Jason Spezza upper body injury (DTD)
2009-11-05 Senators Jason Spezza returned to lineup
2009-12-15 Senators Jason Spezza torn MCL in right knee (DTD)
2009-12-17 Senators Jason Spezza placed on IR with torn MCL in right knee
2010-01-23 Senators Jason Spezza activated from IR
2010-10-08 Senators Jason Spezza groin injury (DTD)
2010-10-09 Senators Jason Spezza returned to lineup
2010-10-22 Senators Jason Spezza groin injury (DTD)
2010-10-30 Senators Jason Spezza returned to lineup
2010-12-27 Senators Jason Spezza placed on IR with right shoulder injury
2011-02-05 Senators Jason Spezza activated from IR
2012-03-20 Senators Jason Spezza flu (DTD) (CBC)
2012-03-23 Senators Jason Spezza returned to lineup
2013-01-29 Senators Jason Spezza upper body injury (DTD)
2013-02-01 Senators Jason Spezza placed on IR with back injury
2013-05-19 Senators Jason Spezza activated from IR
2013-10-09 Senators Jason Spezza strained groin (DTD)
2013-10-12 Senators Jason Spezza returned to lineup
2013-12-28 Senators Jason Spezza lower body injury (DTD)
2014-01-02 Senators Jason Spezza placed on IR with lower body injury
2014-01-08 Senators Jason Spezza activated from IR

I thought so too....Was it not said the other day by the NHL that it would still be at 71........I did here it,just dont know where!!
- nbboy

it was projected at 71.3m back in Decemeber, but then recently they said that they think the cap will probably project around 1-2m from that. Still nothing is offical, all just projected figures

And when I say things went right, I mean with the roster they have. Spezza stayed healthy, which is pretty incredible. Turris and Macarthur played way above their heads for a good portion of the season. 7 points combined in their last 10 games. Much closer to what they've done the rest of their careers.

Spezza gets hurt (long overdue), Turris and Macarthur continue at their current pace, which is more likely than they actually score, and you've got a basement team.

Yeah, I'd say it took a lot to go right for the Sens to land where they did.
- prock

Where exactly have they landed? You're acting like Ottawa is in the hunt. They're a significant long shot to sniff the playoffs.

I think you significantly underrate Turris. Bobby Ryan has been more or less invisible since the Olympic snub, Cowen has been a complete disaster, Anderson was abysmal to start the year.

AND they lost their legend, heart and soul of the team due to some GM/Owner disputes for nothing.

Yeah- I'd say a ton of things have been going right for Ottawa this year...

thanks for the location quote
- sensarmy_11

Meh. He HAS played pretty close to top 10 this year.

Meh. He HAS played pretty close to top 10 this year.
- prock

stop it, you're killing me

stop it, you're killing me
- sensarmy_11

That WAS a pretty solid hit he laid on JVR the other night

Still, they would take him tomorow on their team.
- SENSpatriot

Karlsson is a stud, period. I say amongst best in the league, no doubt.

I understand alot of people despise Dion, including leaf fans. But let me tell you, we'd be nowhere without him. His game has really improved (he sacrificed alot of offense for defense). If I had my way he'd be off the top pp unit to give him a few minutes off per game - he's too overworked.

Where exactly have they landed? You're acting like Ottawa is in the hunt. They're a significant long shot to sniff the playoffs.

I think you significantly underrate Turris. Bobby Ryan has been more or less invisible since the Olympic snub, Cowen has been a complete disaster, Anderson was abysmal to start the year.

AND they lost their legend, heart and soul of the team due to some GM/Owner disputes for nothing.

Yeah- I'd say a ton of things have been going right for Ottawa this year...
- Jordo

Turris sucks. His career year before this one is 29 points.

Bobby Ryan is actually pretty close to his average, and that's with a significant downgrade in linemates.

Cowen is a complete disaster.

Alfredsson - irrelevant. As I said, given the roster they have, they've done fairly well considering.

And yes, where they landed is a ways from a playoff spot. Things went well for them to be out of the basement. A significant injury to any one of Karlsson, Spezza, and Ryan, and you're looking at a bottom 3 team.

it was projected at 71.3m back in Decemeber, but then recently they said that they think the cap will probably project around 1-2m from that. Still nothing is offical, all just projected figures
- DDM-Coga

Yeah that 90 cents on the dollar is bound to catch up in one way or another.

Yeah that 90 cents on the dollar is bound to catch up in one way or another.
- nbboy

but a 5billion dollar Canadian TV rights deal sure dosent hurt right now, not sure when that comes into play. Revenue for next season I assume when the deal kicks in or does the NHL already have the cash?

Karlsson is a stud, period. I say amongst best in the league, no doubt.

I understand alot of people despise Dion, including leaf fans. But let me tell you, we'd be nowhere without him. His game has really improved (he sacrificed alot of offense for defense). If I had my way he'd be off the top pp unit to give him a few minutes off per game - he's too overworked.
- clark_griswold

yeah, he's great. I've actually thought the Sens should play to his strengths, and line up 3 d when he's on the ice. Two shutdown guys and Karlsson, and just let Karlsson play his game. I know it's different than conventional thinking, but if they were to let him play his game, and cover up for his deficiencies better, it could be really good for the Sens.