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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
You're like Robert Langdon.
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't know who that is, so I'll just assume he's the same person as Brad Pitt.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
Can we just trade his cap hit to another team that needs to hit the cap floor?
- FlyersSteve118


If Johnny Gaudreau isn't willing to ink a deal with Calgary, maybe. There would be more going to Calgary.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 12 @ 3:53 PM ET
Can we just trade his cap hit to another team that needs to hit the cap floor?
- FlyersSteve118


He has a NMC.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
He has a NMC.
- Feanor


If (big if) he gets demoted to the 4th line or has his minutes severely cut, he might silently request out.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Can we just trade his cap hit to another team that needs to hit the cap floor?
- FlyersSteve118


Pronger? Yes, but he makes $4M next season. The season after that, he makes $600k, so it would be much more enticing to a cap floor team.

I think the Bruins traded Tim Thomas to the Isles even though Thomas already said he wasn't going to play.

They're different situations because the Isles could argue they weren't 100% sold he wasn't going to play. Pronger has already come out and said he isn't going to play again.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't know who that is, so I'll just assume he's the same person as Brad Pitt.
- jmatchett383


More like Tom Hanks. He's Dan Brown's character of choice.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
More like Tom Hanks. He's Dan Brown's character of choice.
- PhillySportsGuy


Tom Hanks will do in a pinch. Although I'm not much for Christian mythology wild goose chases.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
Fixed.

Edit: I think being frozen might qualify him for LTIR.

- Tomahawk

He's out indefinitely with... uh... hypothermia."
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 3:57 PM ET
If (big if) he gets demoted to the 4th line or has his minutes severely cut, he might silently request out.
- jmatchett383


Even if they don't demote him, I don't think he'd be opposed to a trade. He'd want to pick the suitor though.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 12 @ 3:58 PM ET
So basically the VLC deal is Bryzgalov 2.0.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 12 @ 3:59 PM ET
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 3:59 PM ET
So basically the VLC deal is Bryzgalov 2.0.
- Pixote Andolini



IMO, it's worse. No "never again" mandate to explain it, and no apparent need being filled by it. (And no CBO to get rid of it)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
IMO, it's worse. No "never again" mandate to explain it, and no apparent need being filled by it. (And no CBO to get rid of it)
- Tomahawk


At least he's not a locker room cancer. From most accounts, Bryz was universally disliked
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
At least he's not a locker room cancer. From most accounts, Bryz was universally disliked
- PhillySportsGuy

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
At least he's not a locker room cancer. From most accounts, Bryz was universally disliked
- PhillySportsGuy



Yeah, he's got that going for him

Remember the days when Bryz being a cancer was actually up for debate in here?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
Yeah, he's got that going for him

Remember the days when Bryz being a cancer was actually up for debate in here?

- Tomahawk

Yeah I was pretty staunchly defending but the evidence just kept piling up... I was wrong there. So wrong
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
So basically the VLC deal is Bryzgalov 2.0.
- Pixote Andolini


I think that he might be giving Schenn some pointers on how to win faceoffs, because he really blew at them at the start of this season and now he is actually pretty solid at the dot.

I think a guy like Lecavalier has a lot of intangibles to give a team. He is a heart and soul type of guy and plays his heart out. There is just something wrong with his game right now. I'm not sure exactly what it could be though.

I do think that a few games of him playing on the fourth line back at the center position will help him out though.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Mar 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
Yeah I was pretty staunchly defending but the evidence just kept piling up... I was wrong there. So wrong
- Giroux_Is_God


Not exactly. The guy had like 3 personalities. When the good guy, in the zone, quiet bryz showed up to play he dominated. It's just he was in his head the other 2/3 of the time. Crazy dude he was.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
Not exactly. The guy had like 3 personalities. When the good guy, in the zone, quiet bryz showed up to play he dominated. It's just he was in his head the other 2/3 of the time. Crazy dude he was.
- FlyersSteve118

Pretty accurate assessment
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
IMO, it's worse. No "never again" mandate to explain it, and no apparent need being filled by it. (And no CBO to get rid of it)
- Tomahawk


It's not nearly as a bad. Without the CBO Bryzgalov would have ruined the team for the rest of the decade, and they didn't know there would be a CBO when they signed the deal. And Bryzgalov did not suffer a major back injury that would explain some of his poor performance.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:14 PM ET
Yeah, he's got that going for him

Remember the days when Bryz being a cancer was actually up for debate in here?

- Tomahawk


I know. Once he left, a lot of things 'leaked out'. I use quotes because some journalists, clearly, had an axe to grind.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 12 @ 4:15 PM ET
I know. Once he left, a lot of things 'leaked out'. I use quotes because some journalists, clearly, had an axe to grind.
- PhillySportsGuy

desean traded to kansas city
draft a receiver in the 1st
sign revis
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
I think that he might be giving Schenn some pointers on how to win faceoffs
- FlyersSteve118


I wish he'd teach himself how to win a faceoff or two... 44% ain't cutting it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
desean traded to kansas city
draft a receiver in the 1st
sign revis

- Crimsoninja


Wait, what? Did they trade him or are these recommendations?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 12 @ 4:19 PM ET
It's not nearly as a bad. Without the CBO Bryzgalov would have ruined the team for the rest of the decade, and they didn't know there would be a CBO when they signed the deal. And Bryzgalov did not suffer a major back injury that would explain some of his poor performance.
- Feanor



I'm pretty sure Bryz came with a head injury.
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