I changed my mind on Streit throughout the season. I feel good about him, but I think the final goal may be partially his fault.

The entire team has problems with defensive coverages, but 4v4 really exacerbates everything because one breakdown will result in a grade A scoring chance.
- PhillySportsGuy

I just watched the replay. I don't see how either Streit or Grossmann can be blamed for the OT goal. And I just reviewed all 3 goals that the pair was on the ice for tonight. One goal you can make a case that Grossmann made a bad decision challenging up at the blueline, but the pairing received little support from the forwards on all 3 goals against that they were on the ice for. And I can't fault Streit for any of the 3 goals.

I think the biggest problem on the OT goal was that 3 Flyers went to the point.. or is that too politically correct also?

I just watched the replay. I don't see how either Streit or Grossmann can be blamed for the OT goal. And I just reviewed all 3 goals that the pair was on the ice for tonight. One goal you can make a case that Grossmann made a bad decision challenging up at the blueline, but the pairing received little support from the forwards on all 3 goals against that they were on the ice for. And I can't fault Streit for any of the 3 goals.
- MJL

Then whose fault is it? Lupul was left wide open on the doorstep.

I just watched the replay. I don't see how either Streit or Grossmann can be blamed for the OT goal. And I just reviewed all 3 goals that the pair was on the ice for tonight. One goal you can make a case that Grossmann made a bad decision challenging up at the blueline, but the pairing received little support from the forwards on all 3 goals against that they were on the ice for. And I can't fault Streit for any of the 3 goals.
- MJL

Yeah I don't blame Streit for the last goal.

They both sucked on the OT goal...Grossmann left Lupul all alone to chase the puck and Streit may as well have been in Brampton for all the (frank)ing good he did.
- Jsaquella

Neither defenseman can be faulted on the OT goal in my opinion. Phaneuf who is a defenseman, drifted down from the blueline uncovered. Streit had his check, as did Grossmann initially. If was a 2 on 1 down low in which Grossmann tried to block the pass but Phaneuf made a nice pass to Lupul. In 4 on 4 it is man on man. Forwards have the D, D have the forwards. Lecavalier didn't cover anyone.

Then whose fault is it? Lupul was left wide open on the doorstep.
- PhillySportsGuy

Lecavalier or Simmonds. I lean towards Lecavalier.

Neither defenseman can be faulted on the OT goal in my opinion. Phaneuf who is a defenseman, drifted down from the blueline uncovered. Streit had his check, as did Grossmann initially. If was a 2 on 1 down low in which Grossmann tried to block the pass but Phaneuf made a nice pass to Lupul. In 4 on 4 it is man on man. Forwards have the D, D have the forwards. Lecavalier didn't cover anyone.
- MJL

Was hoping to avoid this situation tonight.

Simmonds-Vinny
Grossmann-Streit

That is who Berube had on the ice in the middle of 4 on 4 OT.

I think the biggest problem on the OT goal was that 3 Flyers went to the point.. or is that too politically correct also?
- opeth_pa

that's WAY too PC, sir.

He's good on O, bad on D -- that hasn't changed since day 1. Even when he's on his game, his offensive contributions are often negated by his weaknesses in his own zone -- as we saw tonight.
- Tomahawk

I disagree. Streit has been solid defensively for a while now. He has been playing very strong Hockey for this team.
Streit was not at fault for any of the goals against that he was on the ice for. YOu can make the argument that he should've broke off to go down to the net, but I don't think he would've gotten there in time. Phaneuf was right next to Simmonds, and Lecavalier basically covered nobody. That defense pairing got little support on any of the goals against that they were out for. Defense is a team game.

Simmonds-Vinny
Grossmann-Streit

That is who Berube had on the ice in the middle of 4 on 4 OT.
- Feanor

Chief looking for that Vinny OT magic, I suppose.

Grossmann ALWAYS scares me in OT.

The London Knights allowed 4 total shots tonight (Stolarz didn't play). Between both teams, there were 4 total shots in the final 2 periods.

I think the biggest problem on the OT goal was that 3 Flyers went to the point.. or is that too politically correct also?
- opeth_pa

3 Flyers out high, one flyer down low. And 2 Leafs down low with the puck spells trouble.

Simmonds-Vinny
Grossmann-Streit

That is who Berube had on the ice in the middle of 4 on 4 OT.
- Feanor

Yeah that's unsettling.

Eh, it was a pretty good game.

Kimmo nearly got a hattie.

Mason is a battler, he definitely did not have his A+ game but he held the fort.

Take the point and move on.

Neither defenseman can be faulted on the OT goal in my opinion. Phaneuf who is a defenseman, drifted down from the blueline uncovered. Streit had his check, as did Grossmann initially. If was a 2 on 1 down low in which Grossmann tried to block the pass but Phaneuf made a nice pass to Lupul. In 4 on 4 it is man on man. Forwards have the D, D have the forwards. Lecavalier didn't cover anyone.
- MJL

And if Grossmann had simply stayed on Lupul, then Phaneuf has to shoot at a set and prepared Mason hugging the near post. The fundamentally sound play is to take away the pass. Grossmann failed to do so and it ended up in the net.

Even though Downie hasn't done squat lately, his absence keeps the 4th line stapled to the bench.

I wish Raffl shot that puck when he had it, just prior to the game winning goal.

I wouldn't mind another year of Kimmo. He might have been the best player on the ice tonight.

And if Grossmann had simply stayed on Lupul, then Phaneuf has to shoot at a set and prepared Mason hugging the near post. The fundamentally sound play is to take away the pass. Grossmann failed to do so and it ended up in the net.
- Jsaquella

I thought G-NN had a tough game.
The first TO goal he was backing in too much.

I would sit Grossmann to be honest.... MacDonald can block just as many shots as Grossmann, plus he doesnt even clear the porch like his frame allows him to do. SMH.. at least put Gus out there he is +11 on the season, the HIGHEST on the team.

I just wish Berube would give him a chance!

Even though Downie hasn't done squat lately, his absence keeps the 4th line stapled to the bench.

I wish Raffl shot that puck when he had it, just prior to the game winning goal.
- Marc D

agreed, on both points.

At least Downie can take a regular shift. And the Flyers passed up a LOT of prime shots, imo ... and the Raffl one was especially frustrating.

I thought G-NN had a tough game.
The first TO goal he was backing in too much.
- Marc D

The entire team had a rough go in the first. They played much better over the last forty minutes. I'm happy they got a point after that first twenty minutes. Could have easily been 4-0. They were outplayed, outworked and outsmarted.

And if Grossmann had simply stayed on Lupul, then Phaneuf has to shoot at a set and prepared Mason hugging the near post. The fundamentally sound play is to take away the pass. Grossmann failed to do so and it ended up in the net.
- Jsaquella

Grossmann attempted to take away the pass. I'm not going to blame the lone defenseman who was left alone down low in a 2 on 1 at the net in OT for the winning goal.
On the Raymond goal, again, both defenseman were outnumbered around the net 3-2 with no support from the forwards.
On the Kadri goal, it was a 4 on 3, nobody picked up Kadri, who was coming late.
On all 3 goals the pair was on the ice for, they were outnumbered. Defense is a team game.

I wouldn't mind another year of Kimmo. He might have been the best player on the ice tonight.
- FlyerGuy

+1

Did you watch the HNIC broadcast?
They said Kimmo didn't return the Flyers initial calls last summer so the Flyers kept upping their offer to him.

Not sure where they were getting that, but I thought it was interesting.

Even though Downie hasn't done squat lately, his absence keeps the 4th line stapled to the bench.

I wish Raffl shot that puck when he had it, just prior to the game winning goal.
- Marc D

I know. The 4th line such a mess. They seem to allow a goal once every other game. If Raffl isn't on that line, they are such a black hole.