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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 8:53 PM ET
I stopped watching, the feed has gone south for some reason.
- MunsterMike


So has Oshawa's game.
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:01 PM ET
So has Oshawa's game.
- ob18


Seems to be fixed now. If only the Generals could do the same.

Laughton can go AHL next year, right?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
After 2

London - 8
Kitchener - 4

Stolarz with 11 saves
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:03 PM ET
Seems to be fixed now. If only the Generals could do the same.

Laughton can go AHL next year, right?

- MunsterMike


All options available including the least likely OHL over age season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 9:04 PM ET
Criticize Berube all you want, I have.

But the bottom line is winning games. He's done that. 33-21-6 as head coach. Taking over a mess of a team, that had no training camp to adjust to what he was doing to turn the ship around.

On October 22nd, the Flyers were in 30th place in the NHL. Behind Edmonton, even Buffalo. They now sit second in their division. Berube has done as good a job as could be expected.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 7 @ 9:06 PM ET
Criticize Berube all you want, I have.

But the bottom line is winning games. He's done that. 33-21-6 as head coach. Taking over a mess of a team, that had no training camp to adjust to what he was doing to turn the ship around.

On October 22nd, the Flyers were in 30th place in the NHL. Behind Edmonton, even Buffalo. They now sit second in their division. Berube has done as good a job as could be expected.

- Jsaquella



agreed. (coming from a lavy fan too)
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:10 PM ET
So has Oshawa's game.
- ob18


6-2
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
After 2

Baie-Comeau - 1
Rimouski - 5

Morin with an assist
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:11 PM ET
6-2
- MunsterMike


Yeah I changed games.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 7 @ 9:37 PM ET
Criticize Berube all you want, I have.

But the bottom line is winning games. He's done that. 33-21-6 as head coach. Taking over a mess of a team, that had no training camp to adjust to what he was doing to turn the ship around.

On October 22nd, the Flyers were in 30th place in the NHL. Behind Edmonton, even Buffalo. They now sit second in their division. Berube has done as good a job as could be expected.

- Jsaquella



I dunno... think the coaches always get too much blame when things are bad, and too much credit when things go well.

IMO, the turnaround has just as much to do with the players themselves recovering individually from poor/slow starts as anything else. Especially G, the rest of the top-line, and Kimmo. Couturier and B Schenn generally playing well hasn't hurt either.

As for Berube, I'm still pretty concerned with how quickly/easily their team game falls apart, the continued lack of discipline, general inconsistency in all areas, and selective accountability. I'm still not sold on him.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 9:41 PM ET
I dunno... think the coaches always get too much blame when things are bad, and too much credit when things go well.

IMO, the turnaround has just as much to do with the players themselves recovering individually from poor/slow starts as anything else. Especially G, the rest of the top-line, and Kimmo. Couturier and B Schenn generally playing well hasn't hurt either.

As for Berube, I'm still pretty concerned with how quickly/easily their team game falls apart, the continued lack of discipline, general inconsistency in all areas, and selective accountability. I'm still not sold on him.

- Tomahawk


It does have a lot to do with the players. But Berube has been putting most of them in a good position to do well. He's let Couturier play regularly with goo linemates and we've seen his game flourish. Schenn has been handled well and not lost his spot even through a few slumps where he couldn't seem to buy a goal.

Strides need to be made in some areas, but the bottom line is, they are winning.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 9:44 PM ET
Damnit, the Rangers won
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:52 PM ET
Final

London - 10
Kitchener - 5

Stolarz with 19 saves
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:18 PM ET
Final

Baie-Comeau - 1
Rimouski - 7

Morin with an assist

13th straight win
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:30 PM ET
I dunno... think the coaches always get too much blame when things are bad, and too much credit when things go well.

IMO, the turnaround has just as much to do with the players themselves recovering individually from poor/slow starts as anything else. Especially G, the rest of the top-line, and Kimmo. Couturier and B Schenn generally playing well hasn't hurt either.

As for Berube, I'm still pretty concerned with how quickly/easily their team game falls apart, the continued lack of discipline, general inconsistency in all areas, and selective accountability. I'm still not sold on him.

- Tomahawk


On one hand it's stated that the turn around has just as much to do with the players, which I don't disagree with. And then on the other hand the Coach is blamed for the team game falling apart, the lack of discipline, and general inconsistency. Why isn't that on the players also?

The good is on the players, and the bad is on the Coach? I would say that both the player and the Coaches have a hand in both.

As far as selective accountability, Players on a team are never completely equals at the pro level. Just the way it is.

And Berube deserves a ton of credit for turning this team around and giving them a solid structure to play with.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 12:52 AM ET
I like Berube's calm demeanor.
He doesn't seem to get too high or low.
I think as a coach he could have more longevity then a Lavi or Torts type.
He could hold certain players more accountable.
Then again he is getting results, so?
A few games ago Hartnell had back to back penalties to start the game.
He let him play through it, and Hartnell had a great shift later in the third period.
Not what I would have liked to see done but it worked.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 8 @ 9:07 AM ET
You all drink light beer and your dogs are ugly.

It's on, Flyers fans.

It's on like Donkey Kong.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 8 @ 9:20 AM ET
You all drink light beer and your dogs are ugly.

It's on, Flyers fans.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

- Atomic Wedgie


Ahhhhhh.

I love it when Toronto's in a playoff position!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 8 @ 9:24 AM ET
You all drink light beer and your dogs are ugly.

It's on, Flyers fans.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

- Atomic Wedgie


(hint: you are the enemies)
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

Mar 8 @ 9:29 AM ET
You all drink light beer and your dogs are ugly.

It's on, Flyers fans.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

- Atomic Wedgie


The only thing is on is you and that's crack
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 8 @ 9:37 AM ET
The only thing is on is you and that's crack
- huks99

It's pretty much going to be a day of crack references, isn't it?

Not that I blame you - kinda hard to ignore our Mayor if you are trash-talking us.

Sigh.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 8 @ 9:45 AM ET
It's pretty much going to be a day of crack references, isn't it?

Not that I blame you - kinda hard to ignore our Mayor if you are trash-talking us.

Sigh.

- Atomic Wedgie


Expect more of this tonight...

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 8 @ 9:59 AM ET
Expect more of this tonight...


- wolfhounds

You might want to warn your boy Giroux we have a plan for him:

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 8 @ 10:22 AM ET
You might want to warn your boy Giroux we have a plan for him:


- Atomic Wedgie


My favorite was when he said "I've got more than enough to eat at home"
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
My favorite was when he said "I've got more than enough to eat at home"
- PhillySportsGuy

"do you need help?"



the guy is a real gem
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