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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
They could make 10 billion dollars if they put them in Thunderdome. I'm not sure if that counts as HRR though.
- jmatchett383

By the time Thunderdome is a thing, we'll be measuring HRR in the bitcoins.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 9:30 AM ET
Psh, he's not even on pace to be a 20 goal scorer. And now that he's participated in three NHL seasons, can we really expect him to develop much more? Probably not.
- BulliesPhan87



You're right, what the hell was I thinking!

Pessimism rules the day!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 9:31 AM ET
You're right, what the hell was I thinking!

Pessimism rules the day!

- MJL


Yes. Welcome to the club... It probably won't last.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 9:33 AM ET
You know what is more exciting. The offense is starting to come from Couturier. 7 pts in the last 7 games. And 9 pts in the last 10. Kid is going to be a hell of a player.
- MJL


Been saying that for years
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 9:52 AM ET
Possibly the best advanced stat chart ever:

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 7 @ 9:53 AM ET
You know what is more exciting. The offense is starting to come from Couturier. 7 pts in the last 7 games. And 9 pts in the last 10. Kid is going to be a hell of a player.
- MJL

Its exciting to think what his top end potential could be. As he continues to physically mature you can see what he can be.

There were several times the other night where he physically dominated the game. Think of the first goal. He makes a fantastic read, meets Hillen against the boards and forces the turnover that springs Giroux.

Also remember.. he turned 21 in December. Kid is gonna be a freaking beast.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
Does anyone here think the Rangers are worse with St. Louis than Callahan. I mean in the short term?
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:08 AM ET
7 pts in 7 games, 9 in 10...good show Mr. Couturier.


- exlund



You know what is more exciting. The offense is starting to come from Couturier. 7 pts in the last 7 games. And 9 pts in the last 10. Kid is going to be a hell of a player.
- MJL


Obv, I agree.


I believe he had this kind of production streak only once before, in his rookie year...I don't think it will be another two years before we see it again.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:10 AM ET
Snow might be shown the door with the move next season to Brooklyn.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:11 AM ET
Does anyone here think the Rangers are worse with St. Louis than Callahan. I mean in the short term?
- PhillySportsGuy


I am thrilled that the Rangers got smaller, older, and less rugged in that deal. Marty Saint is a good player but he is not as fast as he used to be.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:13 AM ET
Snow might be shown the door with the move next season to Brooklyn.
- Pixote Andolini


Maybe NY and Vancouver will make another switch. Snow to Van and Gillis to NYI
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:13 AM ET
On another note, I can't believe they actually pay Seravalli to write this crap (Warning: you will want the five minutes of your life back after you read this):

http://www.philly.com/phi...for_Vanek_or_Moulson.html
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:14 AM ET
I am thrilled that the Rangers got smaller, older, and less rugged in that deal. Marty Saint is a good player but he is not as fast as he used to be.
- Lexington Flyer


I still think he's a better player than Callahan though. I wouldn't have given up all those picks for him though.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:14 AM ET
I'll admit I was very down on Couturier's offense earlier this season. Very happy to see him turn his game around. He's making real offensive plays and flat out beating opposing players. I feel like Courturier's offensive development is in a great place because he's learned how to play the defensive side of the puck first.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:16 AM ET

I am not going to tell Mess that his sweater is a mess.

Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 7 @ 10:18 AM ET
I still think he's a better player than Callahan though. I wouldn't have given up all those picks for him though.
- PhillySportsGuy


Marty is more skilled but Callahan has some gritty intangibles.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:20 AM ET
Does anyone here think the Rangers are worse with St. Louis than Callahan. I mean in the short term?
- PhillySportsGuy

Yup
they are kind of soft up front, they disrupted team chemistry and to expect Richards and MSL to be the tandem they were in 04 is just wishful thinking. Plus parting with a first and another pick makes them weaker in the long term as well
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
Yup
they are kind of soft up front, they disrupted team chemistry and to expect Richards and MSL to be the tandem they were in 04 is just wishful thinking. Plus parting with a first and another pick makes them weaker in the long term as well

- BiggE

I love that the Rangers gave up what they did for MSL. I think overall they're an easier team to play against and are a weaker team in the long term.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:22 AM ET
On another note, I can't believe they actually pay Seravalli to write this crap (Warning: you will want the five minutes of your life back after you read this):

http://www.philly.com/phi...for_Vanek_or_Moulson.html

- Lexington Flyer


Ugh. Such an idiot. This is why so many fans are dumb. He's lying by omission. Mentions Collberg as having a D rate of success, but doesn't mention his 8.0 potential. He's a high risk, high reward prospect. It would have been the equivalent of giving up Ghost and a 2nd for 19 games of Vanek. Everyone knows Moulson and Vanek are not going to re-sign with those respective teams.

Inferring these guys will put the Flyers over the top is, also, ridiculous. These guys are good players, but they aren't huge difference makers for this team. Getting a scoring winger isn't this team's biggest need. Giving up assets and 2nd round picks for the next 3 seasons isn't a smart thing to do when this team lacks system depth.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 10:30 AM ET
Ugh. Such an idiot. This is why so many fans are dumb. He's lying by omission. Mentions Collberg as having a D rate of success, but doesn't mention his 8.0 potential. He's a high risk, high reward prospect. It would have been the equivalent of giving up Ghost and a 2nd for 19 games of Vanek. Everyone knows Moulson and Vanek are not going to re-sign with those respective teams.

Inferring these guys will put the Flyers over the top is, also, ridiculous. These guys are good players, but they aren't huge difference makers for this team. Getting a scoring winger isn't this team's biggest need. Giving up assets and 2nd round picks for the next 3 seasons isn't a smart thing to do when this team lacks system depth.

- PhillySportsGuy


Pretty much what I'd expect from a tool like Seravalli, I pretty much ignore anything written by him or Panaccio
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 7 @ 10:31 AM ET
Ugh. Such an idiot. This is why so many fans are dumb. He's lying by omission. Mentions Collberg as having a D rate of success, but doesn't mention his 8.0 potential. He's a high risk, high reward prospect. It would have been the equivalent of giving up Ghost and a 2nd for 19 games of Vanek. Everyone knows Moulson and Vanek are not going to re-sign with those respective teams.

Inferring these guys will put the Flyers over the top is, also, ridiculous. These guys are good players, but they aren't huge difference makers for this team. Getting a scoring winger isn't this team's biggest need. Giving up assets and 2nd round picks for the next 3 seasons isn't a smart thing to do when this team lacks system depth.

- PhillySportsGuy


I skimmed it. Saw enough to let me know it wasn't worth the time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 10:48 AM ET
Its exciting to think what his top end potential could be. As he continues to physically mature you can see what he can be.

There were several times the other night where he physically dominated the game. Think of the first goal. He makes a fantastic read, meets Hillen against the boards and forces the turnover that springs Giroux.

Also remember.. he turned 21 in December. Kid is gonna be a freaking beast.

- jak521



No doubt. His hitting game is picking up. He knocks people off the puck. And he's adept at using his frame to sheild the puck. And he's probably going to be 20 lbs heavier at some point.
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