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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 12:41 PM ET
he has to play in 2/3 of the Bruins playoff games AND they have to reach the ECF.

Also, if they re-sign him before the draft it becomes a 2nd. Plus, if they re-sign him after the draft the Flyers get an additional 4th.

- FlyerGuy

What if the 2/3rds condition is met, but they re-sign him after the draft?

Do they get a 2nd and a 4th?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 6 @ 12:42 PM ET
I don't think that 3rd is becoming a 2nd
- Tomahawk


Ha! I'm fine with that -- I feel fortunate that they got the 3rd, TBH.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
What if the 2/3rds condition is met, but they re-sign him after the draft?

Do they get a 2nd and a 4th?

- Giroux_Is_God

from what I read the 4th is solely contingent on the B's re-signing him after the draft. So, it potentially could be 2nd AND a 4th.

but it will probably just be a 3rd.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:45 PM ET
Ha! I'm fine with that -- I feel fortunate that they got the 3rd, TBH.
- AllInForFlyers



Me too. In a perfect world, they would have gotten another 2nd or 3rd for Grossmann as well.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:45 PM ET
Can someone tell me the conditions of the Mez pick becoming a second?
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:45 PM ET
"That third round pick, which is a 2014 pick, will become a second rounder if the Bruins a) make the Eastern Conference Finals with Meszaros playing two-thirds of Boston's games or b) if Boston re-signs Mesz before the 2014 Draft. If neither of those things happen but Meszaros re-signs with Boston after the Draft, the Flyers will keep the third rounder and get an additional 2015 4th round pick." - BSH
- Tomahawk

maybe I'm wrong, then ... that makes it sound like the potential 4th would be in addition to the 3rd.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
It still bothers me that the NHL hands down a punishment, then just undoes it because it's "the right thing to do". Are they going to be so forgiving toward teams that get slammed with the cap recapture penalty?
- BulliesPhan87

so did this come as a result of an appeal filed by the Devils or is the league just saying (frank) it and doing it for no reason?
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
Can someone tell me the conditions of the Mez pick becoming a second?
- jmatchett383

no one here knows.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
Can someone tell me the conditions of the Mez pick becoming a second?
- jmatchett383



Why don't you pull a 360 degree turnaround and go back to where you came from.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
from what I read the 4th is solely contingent on the B's re-signing him after the draft. So, it potentially could be 2nd AND a 4th.

but it will probably just be a 3rd.

- FlyerGuy

Indeed.

But hey- maybe someone will get hurt! I can hope
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Why don't you pull a 360 degree turnaround and go back to where you came from.
- Tomahawk

you mean a 180


edit: ah, I might be out of the loop on these jokes. my apologies. lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Why don't you pull a 360 degree turnaround and go back to where you came from.
- Tomahawk


I'm doing that irregardless of weather or not you tell me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
Indeed.

But hey- maybe someone will get hurt! I can hope

- Giroux_Is_God


Not someone too important though, gotta make the ECF.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
I'm doing that irregardless of weather or not you tell me.
- jmatchett383



Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
I'm doing that irregardless of weather or not you tell me.
- jmatchett383

Here's a few that I hate....

"Can you take out the trash awhile?"

"There's still some work to do yet."

GODDAMNIT THOSE WORDS DON'T NEED TO BE THERE
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:49 PM ET
so did this come as a result of an appeal filed by the Devils or is the league just saying (frank) it and doing it for no reason?
- Crimsoninja

I didn't hear anything about an appeal recently, so I assume it was the latter.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:50 PM ET
I'm doing that irregardless of weather or not you tell me.
- jmatchett383


I heard someone use "irregardless" in an actual work meeting and I almost walked out.

Well, I really wanted to walk out to read more about the Andrew MacDonald trade....BUT STILL!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
I heard someone use "irregardless" in an actual work meeting and I almost walked out.

Well, I really wanted to walk out to read more about the Andrew MacDonald trade....BUT STILL!

- johndewar

Supposibly
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
I heard someone use "irregardless" in an actual work meeting and I almost walked out.

Well, I really wanted to walk out to read more about the Andrew MacDonald trade....BUT STILL!

- johndewar


I would have walked out irredgardlessly.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
So what happened with the Devils that they get penalized? Serious question.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
Supposibly
- Giroux_Is_God


Supposibly, the NHL all of the sudden is pulling a 360 and giving the Devils their first pick back irregardless of the Kovalchuk deal.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
So what happened with the Devils that they get penalized? Serious question.
- Streit2ThePoint

The Kovalchuk deal that was struck down by the league. They extended a second offer shortly thereafter which ended up being "fair" in the eyes of the league, but that first one warranted the punishment.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
So what happened with the Devils that they get penalized? Serious question.
- Streit2ThePoint


They signed Kovalchuk to some stupid long deal (like 15 years) with some serious back-diving money, to which the NHL basically said enough is enough and hit them with some penalties. This led to the rule about salary change from year-to-year of a contract (like how the Flyers had to rework Talbot's).
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:54 PM ET
I would have walked out irredgardlessly.
- jmatchett383


I think you mean 'would halve'...

Ewe people.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 6 @ 12:56 PM ET
They signed Kovalchuk to some stupid long deal (like 15 years) with some serious back-diving money, to which the NHL basically said enough is enough and hit them with some penalties. This led to the rule about salary change from year-to-year of a contract (like how the Flyers had to rework Talbot's).
- jmatchett383



Maybe Gary felt sorry that Kovy jilted them?
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