Nice job Canada. Bringing us down

That'll make things interesting though for the Flyers, unfortunately. I think it was Marc who posted here with a lowdown of what needed to be done/what players needed re-signed etc and by the end of the day, the ballpark cap space was about 6 mil for a dman and backup goalie.

Now it'll be 3ish. Meh.
- Giroux_Is_God

It keeps smelling more and more like an offseason trade

I have a degree in entrepreneurship and have taken several economics classes (almost enough to minor in it). I understand how the market works. I agree with what you're saying. This isn't the real world though. This is the NHL and they aren't going to EVER contract. Using those restraints, determining the best course of action can differ.
- PhillySportsGuy

And it's not just the weaker, "poorer" franchises, they all get money from tax payers, either to build their stadiums and/or to stay in the town, county, what have you.

http://articles.sun-senti...ax-money-florida-panthers

what we don't pay players in bitcoin yet?
- 2Real

Didn't the bitcoin just tank recently?

It keeps smelling more and more like an offseason trade
- JAKEw1234

Grossmann?

It has nothing to do with helping or not helping the Flyers.
- MJL

I know. Why do you take what I say out of context? I'm saying they should have a stipulation that excludes career ending injuries like a concussion.

yea the right to not get laid off for being poopty at your job
- 2Real

Agreed. That's stupid, but I doubt you make distinctions or acknowledge all the good things unions have done.

There should be a clause for catastrophic injuries. A career ending concussion can occur to any player at any moment.

Pronger was playing at an all star level when he got injured. Its not like his injury and cap removal would have helped the Flyers.
- PhillySportsGuy

Exactly -- just because the NHL has a CBA and rules doesn't mean that those two things are working well. That's why we have had multiple lockouts -- at one time, the owners thought giving the players a 58-42 split was a good idea.

A catastrophic injury clause would address the issue and not open up some hypothetical can of worms that the league couldn't close -- Chris Pronger nearly lost a freaking eye! Marc Savard sits in the freaking dark for 15 hours a day!

The NHL shouldn't make those players go through any more than they have to to collect the money they are due, and the clubs aren't trying to do anything other than move on.

And it's not just the weaker, "poorer" franchises, they all get money from tax payers, either to build their stadiums and/or to stay in the town, county, what have you.

http://articles.sun-senti...ax-money-florida-panthers
- wolfhounds

I'd be all for contraction. Its never going to happen though.

Because of the weakness in the Canadian dollar right now, the cap is actually expected to go up to about 68.5 million now, instead of 71.
- JAKEw1234

Just looking at FA for a bit of fun.

Like the idea of Ott replacing Rinaldo, assuming Laughton takes Downie's spot.

Other intriguing names:
Dan Boyle/Tallinder (if its a 1 year contract)
Gaborik
Pitkanen
Quincey
Hainsey
Fiddler

My dark-horse pick up, depending on the cost. Is Radim Vrbata.

Didn't the bitcoin just tank recently?
- JAKEw1234

pretty sure they just found the CEO tanked....

Dat Billy Joel line which is appropriate: "They just found your father...in a swimmin pool.."

(CEO wasn't found in a pool but it's a good song and my brain is 95% music/movie references)

Agreed. That's stupid, but I doubt you make distinctions or acknowledge all the good things unions have done.
- wolfhounds

recently or are you referring to the 1940's?

I know. Why do you take what I say out of context? I'm saying they should have a stipulation that excludes career ending injuries like a concussion.
- PhillySportsGuy

They can't, not without having money outside of the system.

I'd be all for contraction. Its never going to happen though.
- PhillySportsGuy

Nope. I'm not in favor of carrying weaker teams, but the wealthy teams, when complaining about this, want to have their cake and eat it, too.

Just looking at FA for a bit of fun.

Like the idea of Ott replacing Rinaldo, assuming Laughton takes Downie's spot.

Other intriguing names:
Dan Boyle/Tallinder (if its a 1 year contract)
Gaborik
Pitkanen
Quincey
Hainsey
Fiddler

My dark-horse pick up, depending on the cost. Is Radim Vrbata.
- flyer_nutter

Ott will be pricey. He's like a Gaustad. The king of 4th liners. I'd stay away from him. They have Laughton coming in next season and Raffl is playing well at center now.

I wouldn't mind finding a replacement for Rinaldo. A player who offers more than the occasional good check and undisciplined penalty.

Just looking at FA for a bit of fun.

Like the idea of Ott replacing Rinaldo, assuming Laughton takes Downie's spot.

Other intriguing names:
Dan Boyle/Tallinder (if its a 1 year contract)
Gaborik
Pitkanen
Quincey
Hainsey
Fiddler

My dark-horse pick up, depending on the cost. Is Radim Vrbata.
- flyer_nutter

Gaborik is great, until he gets gently nudged and falls apart.

They can't, not without having money outside of the system.
- MJL

What do you mean? They don't have insurance on these players?

Just looking at FA for a bit of fun.

Like the idea of Ott replacing Rinaldo, assuming Laughton takes Downie's spot.

Other intriguing names:
Dan Boyle/Tallinder (if its a 1 year contract)
Gaborik
Pitkanen
Quincey
Hainsey
Fiddler

My dark-horse pick up, depending on the cost. Is Radim Vrbata.
- flyer_nutter

I don't know that Pitkanen's going to play again -- I read that his heel injury is just like Pat Peake's, which ended his career in the 90s.

Broken heels, for whatever reason, are really difficult to heal properly.

Gaborik is great, until he gets gently nudged and falls apart.
- jmatchett383

The injury questions are huge there obviously. Everything to me depends on cost/risk.

They can't, not without having money outside of the system.
- MJL

I'm confused - they couldn't set it up like the compliance buy-out only with full pay rather than partial?

recently or are you referring to the 1940's?
- moylander

For worker's as a whole, back in the day; for individuals or smaller groups, unions do good things all the time. But they also suffer from corruption and abuse, just like every other large organization.

Gaborik is great, until he gets gently nudged and falls apart.
- jmatchett383

Marian "House of Cards" Gaborik

Gaborik is great, until he gets gently nudged and falls apart.
- jmatchett383

What do you mean? They don't have insurance on these players?
- PhillySportsGuy

It has nothing to do with insurance.

Just looking at FA for a bit of fun.

Like the idea of Ott replacing Rinaldo, assuming Laughton takes Downie's spot.

Other intriguing names:
Dan Boyle/Tallinder (if its a 1 year contract)
Gaborik
Pitkanen
Quincey
Hainsey
Fiddler

My dark-horse pick up, depending on the cost. Is Radim Vrbata.
- flyer_nutter

Steve Ott might be a good fit here. He'd be a bit expensive for a 4th liner, though.

I'm confused - they couldn't set it up like the compliance buy-out only with full pay rather than partial?
- moylander

They could, but they won't. The League already lost a bunch of money to the players on that deal.