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SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 4 @ 12:23 PM ET
For the rest of the season, the Penguins should do a little less branding, shoot a little less reality TV, have a little less fun and treat playing hockey a lot more like work. It could not possibly hurt.


Quote from a Mark Madden article. really hit the nail on the head with that IMO.

after a 5-1 beating by Chicago the next day in practice they have a shootout contest...
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:24 PM ET
Maybe... they'd be first with the worst record. Murray can appear to have a better deal for Stewart, even though he gave Conacher to them too... interesting theory.
- rival22


Somethings going on there with the Murray family. It doesn't make sense. Maybe there's some benefit to Buffalo getting him this way.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 12:25 PM ET
I'm sure he has several unknown kids in Pittsburgh, so we might have you there
- rival22


damn it, well hopefully he has a thing for Ski Bunnies, to add to his stable
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 4 @ 12:26 PM ET
With Martin out for a month and letang possibly for the year I don't see Colorado and pittsburgh making a move ... Pitt does not have the veteran d man to spare ... Depres could be useful... But for mccginn??? Neither organization is making that move... Just not good dance partiners at this point .
- Brianandr1


yup, you guys need to figure out what you want to do with Nisk as well
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:27 PM ET
yup, you guys need to figure out what you want to do with Nisk as well
- DDM-Coga


I'm convinced they're going to try very hard to extend him. They almost have to with all the uncertainty with Letang, and I'm convinced Despres is gone by the draft.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
With Martin out for a month and letang possibly for the year I don't see Colorado and pittsburgh making a move ... Pitt does not have the veteran d man to spare ... Depres could be useful... But for mccginn??? Neither organization is making that move... Just not good dance partiners at this point .
- Brianandr1


Losing those two guys has probably limited what Shero wanted to do at the deadline prior to them being on the shelf. Then again Shero does find ways to get things done whether fans are for it or against it so we'll see what is up his sleeve in the next day and a half. I do like McGinn.
BillKessel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Brooklyn, MI
Joined: 05.16.2013

Mar 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
Do people have amnesia? Staalsie was offered the same money by Shero and turned it down to have a starring role, i love Staal as much as the next guy but his level has dropped off. Wouldnt mind Kesler but i really think with the uncertainty with Tanger , we need a Tyler Myers but im sure the asking price is too steep
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
Quote from a Mark Madden article. really hit the nail on the head with that IMO.

after a 5-1 beating by Chicago the next day in practice they have a shootout contest...

- SuperHenderson13


The dumb thing about that quote is that the players/coaching staff really have nothing to do with the reality show or the branding.

And god forbid the team has some fun in a 7 month long regular season... I'm sure the Blackhawks players didn't have any fun last season, or the Kings before them.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:30 PM ET
yup, you guys need to figure out what you want to do with Nisk as well
- DDM-Coga



With our injuries, we can't afford to deal him. He has played very well this year. That said, if Shero acquires a high price tag guy, like Kesler, Niskanen for all intent and purposes is leaving as a ufa. We wouldn't be able to sign him for the 4 million, maybe plus per year tag and fill the remaining gaping holes in the roster.

If this scenario happens, I wouldn't be shocked if Ray traded his rights to XXXX for a third or fourth round pick, sort of like what Nashville did with Philly for Dan Hamhuis. Not a great return on a quality asset, but at least its something.

In the perfect scenario, Niskanen is kept. He has played well. He would add stability to a blueline that could have a drastic change to it next year.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:31 PM ET
PittsburghTribSports ‏@TribSports 5m
On this day in 1991, the Penguins trade John Cullen, Zarley Zalapski, Jeff Parker to Whalers for Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson, Grant Jennings

No pressure Ray...
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:33 PM ET
PittsburghTribSports ‏@TribSports 5m
On this day in 1991, the Penguins trade John Cullen, Zarley Zalapski, Jeff Parker to Whalers for Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson, Grant Jennings

No pressure Ray...

- rival22


Maybe the best all-time deal ever made by the Pens as far as a trade.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Mar 4 @ 12:34 PM ET
Maybe the best all-time deal ever made by the Pens as far as a trade.
- Oneonta Penguin


Probably the best NHL trade deadline deal of all time.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 12:35 PM ET
what school can you get that at? Look at you college boy
- DDM-Coga

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 12:35 PM ET
DID SOMEBODY MENTION RON FRANCIS
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 4 @ 12:35 PM ET
That is the surprising thing... Gotta think that Bryan Murray at least asked around about Conacher before waiving him. Maybe nobody does want him.
- rival22


Maybe some teams weren't going after him because they knew he would be sent on waivers. He actually would be a good 3rd liner given the right linemates. Say if the pens did get Kesler, then Bennett-Kesler-Conacher as your 3rd line may not be too bad.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
Probably the best NHL trade deadline deal of all time.
- cap1681


You won't get an argument from me.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
DID SOMEBODY MENTION RON FRANCIS
- BulliesPhan87


Talking about the real Ron Francis. Not the next Ron Francis.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
With our injuries, we can't afford to deal him. He has played very well this year. That said, if Shero acquires a high price tag guy, like Kesler, Niskanen for all intent and purposes is leaving as a ufa. We wouldn't be able to sign him for the 4 million, maybe plus per year tag and fill the remaining gaping holes in the roster.

If this scenario happens, I wouldn't be shocked if Ray traded his rights to XXXX for a third or fourth round pick, sort of like what Nashville did with Philly for Dan Hamhuis. Not a great return on a quality asset, but at least its something.

In the perfect scenario, Niskanen is kept. He has played well. He would add stability to a blueline that could have a drastic change to it next year.

- Oneonta Penguin


Don't forget that cap is going up probably 6+ mil. Plus orpik's contract may be off the books and if sutter is traded for Kesler, then it's only about a 3 mil difference. It could easily be done
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
Talking about the real Ron Francis. Not the next Ron Francis.
- madmike71

but I hear one guy said one time that all Flyers fans believe Sean Couturier is literally Ron Francis

like, we used a time machine and stole him in his prime and snuck him into the draft class. That's exactly what the guy said.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
Maybe the best all-time deal ever made by the Pens as far as a trade.
- Oneonta Penguin


Even though it was an inside deal...

Thanks EJ!
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:40 PM ET
PittsburghTribSports ‏@TribSports 5m
On this day in 1991, the Penguins trade John Cullen, Zarley Zalapski, Jeff Parker to Whalers for Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson, Grant Jennings

No pressure Ray...

- rival22


Damn what a trade!
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:43 PM ET
Don't forget that cap is going up probably 6+ mil. Plus orpik's contract may be off the books and if sutter is traded for Kesler, then it's only about a 3 mil difference. It could easily be done
- drummer829


No offense and not bashing you ... people always mention Orpik's contract may be off the books. It's not money Pittsburgh can reinvest. It's already been spent on the Letang extension. Letang's 3.75 increase is exactly what Orpik is being paid now. So, that doesn't help. It's almost a requirement that Orpik doesn't come back to make up the difference.

I'm interested to see what Sutter would be signed for as a RFA. He would likely get an increase. How much? I have no idea.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:44 PM ET
Even though it was an inside deal...

Thanks EJ!

- rival22


I see a deal we could swing with Montreal and there is a former Penguin in charge there.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Mar 4 @ 12:45 PM ET
Interesting tidbit to add to the Kesler talk, as reported by no one if traded for, Bylsma plans on playing Kesler on the first D pairing with Orpik.


Iginla approves.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Mar 4 @ 12:46 PM ET
What the heck in Minnesota doing considering Brodeur? They realize that this is 2014, right?
- rival22


Matt Cooke has the special gift of reversing the aging process.
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