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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
Giroux and Couts for sure
hopefully it includes Voracek, Simmer, Mason as well

now tell me your list plz

- Marc D

i like your list
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
Isn't Schiefle playing better for them now, though?

That's the kind of trade, if you're Winnipeg...you make it, sure. But you only get to trade guys like that once, so you better get exactly what you need.

Not revisiting JVR for Schenn, because trading a forward for a defenseman isn't automatically bad. But the Flyers needed a different kind of defenseman and they didn't get exactly what they needed -- and they don't get to trade JVR again

- AllInForFlyers


Debateable because at the time they had Carle, Timonen, and thought Coburn a better puck mover. What they needed at that time was a big shutdown crease clearing defenseman. It didn't become aparent they needed a puck mover on D until Carle left.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
watch him this saturday against Philly and judge for yourself.
- landros 2

oh ish
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: “The Philadelphia Flyers are believed to be offering a kid like Brayden Schenn and a first round pick” for Ryan Kesler.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: “The Philadelphia Flyers are believed to be offering a kid like Brayden Schenn and a first round pick” for Ryan Kesler.
- PhillaBully


no
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
He was scratched once which makes him not a regular.
- PhillySportsGuy



If I'm not mistaken I beleive it was 2 or 3 games. But as you said, the point is the same.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
He was scratched once which makes him not a regular.
- PhillySportsGuy

Schenn was only scrathed for like two games in his entire career in TO....Gardiner piss ed them off so much last year they stuck him in the AHL...although he was hurt for a bit too....
tgropen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
Dustin Penner traded for a 4th round pick...
wow
salary dump

- Marc D

Penney traded on National Pancake Day. A coincidence? Methinks not.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: “The Philadelphia Flyers are believed to be offering a kid like Brayden Schenn and a first round pick” for Ryan Kesler.
- PhillaBully

haha fooled them!
needs to follow Boruk

FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:29 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: “The Philadelphia Flyers are believed to be offering a kid like Brayden Schenn and a first round pick” for Ryan Kesler.
- PhillaBully

So if that kid looks like Brayden Schenn - we still have a deal?
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: “The Philadelphia Flyers are believed to be offering a kid like Brayden Schenn and a first round pick” for Ryan Kesler.
- PhillaBully


That really isnt that bad an offer IMO. As much as I like Schenn, Kesler is a different level. But I still feel like this puts pressure on Pitt to up ther off of Sutter +.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
So if that kid looks like Brayden Schenn - we still have a deal?
- FlyersGrace


AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
Debateable because at the time they had Carle, Timonen, and thought Coburn a better puck mover. What they needed at that time was a big shutdown crease clearing defenseman. It didn't become aparent they needed a puck mover on D until Carle left.
- SchennBros


Are you serious?

Anybody watching the Flyers play after New Jersey forechecked them to death, knew they needed another slow defenseman as much as I need another hole in the head.

I've got nothing against Luke Schenn, as a player, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there's not a person on this Earth who will convince me that the Flyers got the right kind of defenseman for JVR
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
Penney traded on National Pancake Day. A coincidence? Methinks not.
- tgropen

there is a national pancake day?

I never knew that!
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
So if that kid looks like Brayden Schenn - we still have a deal?
- FlyersGrace


I heard they are already having a look-a-like contest in preparations.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 3:31 PM ET
So if that kid looks like Brayden Schenn - we still have a deal?
- FlyersGrace


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:31 PM ET
Schenn was only scrathed for like two games in his entire career in TO....Gardiner piss ed them off so much last year they stuck him in the AHL...although he was hurt for a bit too....
- landros 2


Why would they be sending such a great player to the AHL? Don't they realize he's their future top pairing defenseman?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:31 PM ET
So if that kid looks like Brayden Schenn - we still have a deal?
- FlyersGrace

I think this is code for Luke Schenn
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:32 PM ET
Are you serious?

Anybody watching the Flyers play after New Jersey forechecked them to death, knew they needed another slow defenseman as much as I need another hole in the head.

I've got nothing against Luke Schenn, as a player, and you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there's not a person on this Earth who will convince me that the Flyers got the right kind of defenseman for JVR

- AllInForFlyers


In retro spec your right. But the thinking at the time was a crease clearing D-man, not a puck mover.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:34 PM ET
I think this is code for Luke Schenn
- Marc D

Intially yes - but I enjoyed where they took it...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:35 PM ET
In retro spec your right. But the thinking at the time was a crease clearing D-man, not a puck mover.
- SchennBros


Flyers had an organizational need for good young defenseman. Whether that player was a puck moving offensive defenseman, or a defenseman like Luke Schenn.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Now Washington has the Great 8 and the Great Ate


Comment regarding the Penner deal, lol.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: “The Philadelphia Flyers are believed to be offering a kid like Brayden Schenn and a first round pick” for Ryan Kesler.
- PhillaBully


I'd do it... Meh... I dunno
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Flyers had an organizational need for good young defenseman. Whether that player was a puck moving offensive defenseman, or a defenseman like Luke Schenn.
- MJL

My biggest guff was that JVR should have been moved for a young puck mover and not a defensive d-man.

It wasnt the greatest trade at the time, and is a terrible trade as of right now..
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:38 PM ET
Comment regarding the Penner deal, lol.
- Tomahawk


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