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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 5m

Flyers and Jets talking trade again. Hearing Evander Kane's name again.

For whats its worth

- nonpoint22


Man, I like Kane, huge upside, he's never played with anyone as skilled as Giroux either. He's likely worth B Schenn and this years first. Put him with Giroux and I think he's a 40 goal scorer.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
In Schenn's last 3 seasons with Toronto, he missed 6 total games. Gardiner has never been scratched though. He's a regular in their star studded lineup.
- PhillySportsGuy

thats probably why they never made the playoffs!!!!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
Btw, to those who were asking about Giordano, Burke just listed him alongside Monahan as the two players he might deem 'untouchable'.
- Tomahawk

I want to see Homer's list.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
my god neither do I......as a rookie two years ago he had 30 pts ....last year in the playoffs he had 5 pts in 6 games and was the leafs top D man...this year he has been in Carlisles dog house ...and has fallen out of favor....
he has been a top 6 d man this year.
but alas some still cling to the Hope that is Luke Schenn...I don't.

- landros 2


Because he doesn't play defense! He only looks to score!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
Mez-O'Donnell was their top pairing and the Flyers 3rd pairing.

I feel like the Roloson year where they went to the conference finals was a bit of a fluke.

- PhillySportsGuy



Krajicek, Eminger, Walker, Mez, Foster... ironically those were the D they were riding during that period. Mez didn't have a chance.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
ya ok...
- landros 2


So last year was just a fluke? He didn't play well with Timonen? It was a mirage?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
supposedly CBJ trying to move Gaborik, for immediate defensive help
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:21 PM ET
I want to see Homer's list.
- Marc D

Why does this sound dirty?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:21 PM ET
thats probably why they never made the playoffs!!!!
- landros 2


Exactly. It was all Schenn's fault. Like it is now!
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:21 PM ET
Man, I like Kane, huge upside, he's never played with anyone as skilled as Giroux either. He's likely worth B Schenn and this years first. Put him with Giroux and I think he's a 40 goal scorer.
- BiggE


Who would be the first Philly media person to think its Patrick Kane and not Evander Kane.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:22 PM ET
I want to see Homer's list.
- Marc D

What would be your guess?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Mar 4 @ 3:23 PM ET
Who would be the first Philly media person to think its Patrick Kane and not Evander Kane.
- SchennBros


the "CUZ"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:23 PM ET
Who would be the first Philly media person to think its Patrick Kane and not Evander Kane.
- SchennBros

aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:23 PM ET
Duane B, are you out there?
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
What would be your guess?
- aightwebang17


Mike Richards
Jeff Carter
Jeff Lupul
Luca Sbisa
Scott Upshall
Joni Pitkanen
Sergei Bobrovsky
JVR
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
Because he doesn't play defense! He only looks to score!
- PhillySportsGuy

at this point yup...your correct.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
What would be your guess?
- aightwebang17

Giroux and Couts for sure
hopefully it includes Voracek, Simmer, Mason as well

now tell me your list plz
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
Who would be the first Philly media person to think its Patrick Kane and not Evander Kane.
- SchennBros


John Smallwood
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
The same Schenn that was a healthy scratch in Toronto?
- Flyersgod



How many games was he a healthy scratch in Toronto?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
Man, I like Kane, huge upside, he's never played with anyone as skilled as Giroux either. He's likely worth B Schenn and this years first. Put him with Giroux and I think he's a 40 goal scorer.
- BiggE


Isn't Schiefle playing better for them now, though?

That's the kind of trade, if you're Winnipeg...you make it, sure. But you only get to trade guys like that once, so you better get exactly what you need.

Not revisiting JVR for Schenn, because trading a forward for a defenseman isn't automatically bad. But the Flyers needed a different kind of defenseman and they didn't get exactly what they needed -- and they don't get to trade JVR again
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
at this point yup...your correct.
- landros 2


So why the (frank) would you want a defenseman who can't play defense?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
Exactly. It was all Schenn's fault. Like it is now!
- PhillySportsGuy


no its not his fault...its their fault for playing him.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
Mike Richards
Jeff Carter
Jeff Lupul
Luca Sbisa
Scott Upshall
Joni Pitkanen
Sergei Bobrovsky
JVR

- SchennBros

LMAO!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:25 PM ET
How many games was he a healthy scratch in Toronto?
- MJL


He was scratched once which makes him not a regular.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 4 @ 3:26 PM ET
So why the (frank) would you want a defenseman who can't play defense?
- PhillySportsGuy

watch him this saturday against Philly and judge for yourself.
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