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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
Has to be a move to increase the price for both Washington and Pittsburgh.
- SchennBros

I'll wait until Boruk explains this

Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
Why would the Flyers ask about Halak when they just re-signed their goalie for 4 more years? They wouldn't. Take these rumors with a grain of salt.
- PhillySportsGuy


Homer is probably thinking of a goalie tandem. Woukdnt be the first time.

Two positions the Flyers are great at ducking up... G and D
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
This worries me.
- Flyersgod


The only reason it should worry you is that it might mean that Rayzor is done for the year and they want veteran insurance that can spell Mason occasionally.

Steve Mason is your goaltender for the foreseeable future.

And that's OK.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
Has to be a move to increase the price for both Washington and Pittsburgh.
- SchennBros

From your lips to John Boruks ears!!
Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
Gardiner does not have top pairing potential. Mez did at one point. Gardiner can't defend. There is no way he can ever play top pairing minutes.
- PhillySportsGuy



Both guys were potential top-4's with big question marks. Mez was really lucky to jump right into a fantastic situation in Ottawa with support from Redden/Chara/Volchenkov. Gardiner's has... Phaneuf.

Mez bombed big time in his shot at top-pairing minutes w/ Tampa... completely and utterly exposed.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 2:57 PM ET
The only reason it should worry you is that it might mean that Rayzor is done for the year and they want veteran insurance that can spell Mason occasionally.

Steve Mason is your goaltender for the foreseeable future.

And that's OK.

- johndewar


I love Mason.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 2:58 PM ET
The only reason it should worry you is that it might mean that Rayzor is done for the year and they want veteran insurance that can spell Mason occasionally.

Steve Mason is your goaltender for the foreseeable future.

And that's OK.

- johndewar


then he shouldn't have practiced today. razor that is...
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Mar 4 @ 2:58 PM ET
Both guys were potential top-4's with big question marks. Mez was really lucky to jump right into a fantastic situation in Ottawa with support from Redden/Chara/Volchenkov. Gardiner's has... Phaneuf.

Mez bombed big time in his shot at top-pairing minutes w/ Tampa... completely and utterly exposed.

- Tomahawk


Wasn't TB pretty bad though?
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
The only reason it should worry you is that it might mean that Rayzor is done for the year and they want veteran insurance that can spell Mason occasionally.

Steve Mason is your goaltender for the foreseeable future.

And that's OK.

- johndewar


IMO Halak is not a back-up though. TIm Thomas would be a back-up, but it puts legitamcy behind the Flyers trying to up the price on Halak if they need a goalie. Build up the bid. Wait till he goes somewhere else and get Halak.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
Homer is probably thinking of a goalie tandem. Woukdnt be the first time.

Two positions the Flyers are great at ducking up... G and D

- Flyersgod


If they want to give up a late pick and sign Halak to a reasonable extension as a backup then thats fine.

I don't think Halak wants to do that, so it's probably not serious.

The Flyers management discusses every player available and then some.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
Both guys were potential top-4's with big question marks. Mez was really lucky to jump right into a fantastic situation in Ottawa with support from Redden/Chara/Volchenkov. Gardiner's has... Phaneuf.

Mez bombed big time in his shot at top-pairing minutes w/ Tampa... completely and utterly exposed.

- Tomahawk

Mez looked great with Kimmo, Coburn, Pronger and Carle ahead of him.
Loved Mez with Sean O'D. They killed it against the other teams bottom six forwards.
PhillySportsGuy
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Mar 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
Both guys were potential top-4's with big question marks. Mez was really lucky to jump right into a fantastic situation in Ottawa with support from Redden/Chara/Volchenkov. Gardiner's has... Phaneuf.

Mez bombed big time in his shot at top-pairing minutes w/ Tampa... completely and utterly exposed.

- Tomahawk


Yeah. I just don't think you can say Gardiner has potential top pair ability. He's 23 and hasn't even nailed down a regular spot in the top 6 despite numerous opportunities.
landros 2
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Mar 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
He's 1 year younger than Luke Schenn. You know, the guy everyone thinks has maxed out his potential.
- PhillySportsGuy

so ? one guy is sought after by just about every team in the league...the other ? not so much.
Tomahawk
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Mar 4 @ 3:00 PM ET
Wasn't TB pretty bad though?
- Flyersgod



Forwards were great... Marty, Vinny, Stammer, Tanguay, Recchi, Prospal, etc. The D was complete crap. Matt Walker was a regular for them.
FlyersGrace
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Mar 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
then he shouldn't have practiced today. razor that is...
- landros 2

I think there has been some interest in Emery... And he won't stay after this year. I'm not thrilled because I thought Heeter was doing well? I was kinda hoping he'd be ready soonish. Anyone who follows the Phantoms have an idea if he could step into back-up role next season?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
Forwards were great... Marty, Vinny, Stammer, Tanguay, Recchi, Prospal, etc. The D was complete crap.
- Tomahawk


As was the goaltending, which made everything look worse
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
so ? one guy is sought after by just about every team in the league...the other ? not so much.
- landros 2


I wouldn't trade Luke Schenn for Gardiner. At least Schenn has shown some ability in the NHL. He's had good stretches. Gardiner hasn't done a thing in the NHL.
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Mar 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
Still nothing on St.Louis? It seems like this Kesler thing has completely shadowed St.Louis. Fishy.
Tomahawk
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Mar 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
Yeah. I just don't think you can say Gardiner has potential top pair ability. He's 23 and hasn't even nailed down a regular spot in the top 6 despite numerous opportunities.
- PhillySportsGuy



Yeah, he's not top-pairing potential from what I can tell.

Mathieu Dandenault -- skates like the wind, plays the puck like a forward, but the hockey sense of a turnip.
Tomahawk
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Mar 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
As was the goaltending, which made everything look worse
- AllInForFlyers



Mike Smith was pretty decent for a season or two. They had Niitty too.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
I think there has been some interest in Emery... And he won't stay after this year. I'm not thrilled because I thought Heeter was doing well? I was kinda hoping he'd be ready soonish. Anyone who follows the Phantoms have an idea if he could step into back-up role next season?
- FlyersGrace


Thats a possibility. It will be interesting to see what the Flyers do with their backup position. They have always gone cheap, so I assume Heeter will be given every opportunity.

Stolarz should be getting quite a few starts with the Phantoms next season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
Still nothing on St.Louis? It seems like this Kesler thing has completely shadowed St.Louis. Fishy.
- SchennBros


Lightning will not trade him. They may consider doing it this offseason when they have the opportunity to bring in Drouin.
landros 2
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Mar 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
Yeah. I just don't think you can say Gardiner has potential top pair ability. He's 23 and hasn't even nailed down a regular spot in the top 6 despite numerous opportunities.
- PhillySportsGuy

only been in League couple of years....came from college hockey...Schenn was rushed in at 18 years old from Jr....Honestly I don't know if Gardiner will be that good, but he has the tools.....he is all offence.....Schenn is slow but big and physical....when I knock Schenn I don't say he blows or they should cut him...I just don't think he is very good and thats after 6 years in the league....I hope Im proved wrong.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
Why would the Flyers ask about Halak when they just re-signed their goalie for 4 more years? They wouldn't. Take these rumors with a grain of salt.
- PhillySportsGuy


I hope an entire warehouse of road salt. noooooooooooooooooooo
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 4 @ 3:06 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Luke Schenn for Gardiner. At least Schenn has shown some ability in the NHL. He's had good stretches. Gardiner hasn't done a thing in the NHL.
- PhillySportsGuy

thats good ...because neither would Toronto....every other GM in the NHL would though.
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