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sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Mar 2 @ 2:56 PM ET
Swapping Henrique for Kesler would just be a lateral move. Not necessary, just makes us older.
- TheJerseyDevil1


just when i thought i ran into the devils fan with no clue what's going on, i meet yet another.

how is henrique for kesler a lateral move? henrique is garbage and...wait for....OVERPAID. you guys are paying 10M for zajac and henrique, kesler is better than both of them combined for like half the price.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Mar 2 @ 2:57 PM ET
ahahahahahah zajac is the same player as kesler? just because you guys overpaid zajac doesn't mean he's similar to kesler.
- sensnucksnocups

Zajac has reached 70 pts once Kesler twice both are likely stronger defensively then they are offensively ? How was what I said so stupid? They are SIMILAR holy (frank)
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 2 @ 2:58 PM ET
Some sexy rumours.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
Lol devils fans continue to overvalue henrique,he's nothing more than a 2nd/3rd line tweener, if you think that's what Kesler is then you've never seen him play
- kfinl170


Never said he was Kesler right now. But in 3 or 4 years, I'd rather have Henrique than a mid thirties Kesler with a lot of wear on his body. Making trades is about looking ahead.

Feel free to disagree, nothing wrong with that.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
just when i thought i ran into the devils fan with no clue what's going on, i meet yet another.

how is henrique for kesler a lateral move? henrique is garbage and...wait for....OVERPAID. you guys are paying 10M for zajac and henrique, kesler is better than both of them combined for like half the price.

- sensnucksnocups

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about at all man. Watch Henrique play and sorry has he reached his full potential yet ? He is 5 years younger the Kesler.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
Zajac has reached 70 pts once Kesler twice both are likely stronger defensively then they are offensively ? How was what I said so stupid? They are SIMILAR holy (frank)
- blizzzard


I think 30 GM's would take Kesler over Zajac, they could play similar styles(though I don't think Zajac is as strong) but that doesn't mean that they have equal value. Basically adding a 2nd or 3rd rounder to Zajac wouldn't get you Kesler IMO.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
Some sexy rumours.
- Nucker101

wonder who's gonna win the b.schenn sweeps
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Never said he was Kesler right now. But in 3 or 4 years, I'd rather have Henrique than a mid thirties Kesler with a lot of wear on his body. Making trades are about looking ahead.

Feel free to disagree, nothing wrong with that.

- TheJerseyDevil1


If you keep looking ahead you'll never win now
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
wonder who's gonna win the b.schenn sweeps
- Flyfreaky


Nucks I hope Then sign Downie as a UFA. (frank)ing Kassian and Downie on the same team with Torts as head coach would be fun to watch.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Nucks I hope Then sign Downie as a UFA. (frank)ing Kassian and Downie on the same team with Torts as head coach would be fun to watch.
- Nucker101

blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
I think 30 GM's would take Kesler over Zajac, they could play similar styles(though I don't think Zajac is as strong) but that doesn't mean that they have equal value. Basically adding a 2nd or 3rd rounder to Zajac wouldn't get you Kesler IMO.
- Nucker101

No but He isn't that much better that we would give up Henrique plus for him When Zajac essentially brings what he does there is 0 point in having Kesler and Zajac on the same team.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
I think 30 GM's would take Kesler over Zajac, they could play similar styles(though I don't think Zajac is as strong) but that doesn't mean that they have equal value. Basically adding a 2nd or 3rd rounder to Zajac wouldn't get you Kesler IMO.
- Nucker101



Moot point. Kesler won't waive to NJ
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
Nucks I hope Then sign Downie as a UFA. (frank)ing Kassian and Downie on the same team with Torts as head coach would be fun to watch.
- Nucker101


TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
If you keep looking ahead you'll never win now
- kfinl170


For a team like you, that's true, but we aren't ready to go all in for a cup yet. In a bit of flux after Parise and Kovy. Have to take a bit of a step back to develop a core of players. Henrique is an important part of that.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:03 PM ET
If you keep looking ahead you'll never win now
- kfinl170


Gillis?
JetsAvs
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 2 @ 3:03 PM ET
wonder who's gonna win the b.schenn sweeps
- Flyfreaky


I think Winnipeg gets him in a deal involving Buff. like it or not, Philly could use Buff
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
Zajac has reached 70 pts once Kesler twice both are likely stronger defensively then they are offensively ? How was what I said so stupid? They are SIMILAR holy (frank)
- blizzzard


1. zajac has never reached 70 points.
2. zajac's high totals were clearly because he played with parise.
3. zajac's cap hit is 5.75M long term...OVERPAID

just because they are both stronger defensively than offensively doens't mean they are equal. it means that zajac's offense is so bad now that even his defense is better than it. kesler is a top two way forward, not even gillis is dumb enough to trade him for zajac

i guess i shouldn't be surprised, i shouldn't have taken for granted that you would understand why i said you calling zajac = kesler is stupid
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
Fair point. Edmonton is pretty set on defence.
- SameOld



I always love how fans on their own thread bash a guy and cant wait to get rid of him but then on the other forums they pump him up as being the next big thing and solving everyone else's problems....
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:05 PM ET


I always love how fans on their own thread bash a guy and cant wait to get rid of him but then on the other forums they pump him up as being the next big thing and solving everyone else's problems....

- Iggysbff



Salesmanship.
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
For a team like you, that's true, but we aren't ready to go all in for a cup yet. In a bit of flux after Parise and Kovy. Have to take a bit of a step back to develop a core of players. Henrique is an important part of that.
- TheJerseyDevil1


I agree, have you guys given thought to moving Larson for scoring in the top6?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:06 PM ET


I always love how fans on their own thread bash a guy and cant wait to get rid of him but then on the other forums they pump him up as being the next big thing and solving everyone else's problems....

- Iggysbff



Edler for Hall
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:06 PM ET
He is worth more to the team then he would receive back in a trade. Probably one of the best defensive forwards in the game ( I know I'll get a good amount of laughs from that ) Todd writes about his advanced stats all the time and what he is able to do on a nightly basis .
- blizzzard


Stats, schmats... even Gretz got traded.


EDIT: Nice alliteration
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:06 PM ET
That's impossible. Gardnier is the 2nd coming of Bobby Orr and is completely untouchable. Unless:

Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak and a 1st for Gardnier or
Giroux, Schenn, Simmonds, Coutorier and a 1st for Gardnier

- fiveandagame

sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Mar 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about at all man. Watch Henrique play and sorry has he reached his full potential yet ? He is 5 years younger the Kesler.
- blizzzard


oh wow 5 years, i guess that means the canucks are better off trading kesler for a draft pick since that will get them an even younger player. kesler's age shouldnt even be mentioned in trade talks, he a great piece for any contender to add.

you have no clue what you're talking about since you think two overpaid kids are worth kesler.

i feel like i'm talking to devils management right now, you know the team that decided to keep the 29th overall pick for matteau instead now have to give up a much higher one this year
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:08 PM ET
1. zajac has never reached 70 points.
2. zajac's high totals were clearly because he played with parise.
3. zajac's cap hit is 5.75M long term...OVERPAID

just because they are both stronger defensively than offensively doens't mean they are equal. it means that zajac's offense is so bad now that even his defense is better than it. kesler is a top two way forward, not even gillis is dumb enough to trade him for zajac

i guess i shouldn't be surprised, i shouldn't have taken for granted that you would understand why i said you calling zajac = kesler is stupid

- sensnucksnocups

1. I never said they where = I said similar
Zajac has played 530 games and has 305 pts Kesler has played in 639 games and has 389 pts so he has played over 100 games more and has less then 100 more points then him. How on earth are they not similar?
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