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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.05.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:03 PM ET
Boston might be demanding that the Flyers take somebody off the roster to help save cap room or to clear a contract slot...not sure if Boston is at 50 used or not.
- Jsaquella



eff that puck moving d men are at an all time high value wise, if he gets dealt it better be from a position of strength.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:04 PM ET
And right now, Berube has no interest in reuniting Schenn with Kimmo. I like the idea of Gilbert pairing with Streit, a right handed d-man with decent mobility, which will help offset Streit's lack of foot speed. Plus, Gilbert is okay and getting the puck out of the zone with a decent outlet pass.
- ravishingone


Gilbert has done really well with Campbell this year. I think he'd be good with Streit, as well.

i just worry about cost. I could see a lot of teams interested in Gilbert. I'd prefer him over guys like Hainsey, MacDonald and the others that usually get mentioned.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:06 PM ET
Gilbert has done really well with Campbell this year. I think he'd be good with Streit, as well.

i just worry about cost. I could see a lot of teams interested in Gilbert. I'd prefer him over guys like Hainsey, MacDonald and the others that usually get mentioned.

- Jsaquella


I cant believe the cost on Gilbert would be too high seeing his UFA status
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:07 PM ET
eff that puck moving d men are at an all time high value wise, if he gets dealt it better be from a position of strength.
- -davies-


Meszaros isn't really a puck moving defenseman. He scores points and goal, but he's not really driving transition. If he was, I'd be all for keeping him.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:08 PM ET
I cant believe the cost on Gilbert would be too high seeing his UFA status
- nonpoint22


The Isles are reportedly demanding a 1st rounder for MacDonald, also a UFA.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:09 PM ET
Wow. Rangers had 20 1st period shots against Bos.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:10 PM ET
Wow. Rangers had 20 1st period shots against Bos.
- fecondo


They flat out dominated the first ten minutes or so, shots were 10-1 at one point
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:10 PM ET
Gilbert has done really well with Campbell this year. I think he'd be good with Streit, as well.

i just worry about cost. I could see a lot of teams interested in Gilbert. I'd prefer him over guys like Hainsey, MacDonald and the others that usually get mentioned.

- Jsaquella


Pretty apparent the fan base thinks more highly of Gus then the organization. I would start there and see what Tallon says. Still plenty of young d-men in the pipeline, that Gus can be replaced.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:12 PM ET
They flat out dominated the first ten minutes or so, shots were 10-1 at one point
- Jsaquella

Yeah I missed the first 12 minutes of the game. The disparity in shots caught me off guard. I thought it was evenly played from what I saw
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
The Isles are reportedly demanding a 1st rounder for MacDonald, also a UFA.
- Jsaquella


What I dont understand is why everyone says that other teams are demanding 1st for there pending UFA's but we would only get mid round picks for mez...Am I missing something?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
Pretty apparent the fan base thinks more highly of Gus then the organization. I would start there and see what Tallon says. Still plenty of young d-men in the pipeline, that Gus can be replaced.
- ravishingone


Yeah, maybe they can flip Gus for Gilbert. That's intriguing, to say the least.

i don;t think Gustafsson is a cure all, but he should be playing because he brings speed/mobility and puck moving skills that they lack badly.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:17 PM ET
The Isles are reportedly demanding a 1st rounder for MacDonald, also a UFA.
- Jsaquella



Wow ....what away to build a defence.....Streit, Gervais and now Macdonald ???? Does Dave Brown have season tickets for the Islanders ?......seriously the Islanders were the worst team in the east with these 3 guys on their D? What's the bloody attraction ?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:18 PM ET
What I dont understand is why everyone says that other teams are demanding 1st for there pending UFA's but we would only get mid round picks for mez...Am I missing something?
- nonpoint22


MacDonald is top 5 in the NHL in minutes played. He's been the Isles most heavily relied upon defenseman this season. Gilbert has been very good all season for Florida. As has Hainsey for Carolina.

Meszaros has been poor in his own end, has a questionable injury history, a bigger cap hit/salary than those three, doesn't have a ton of speed and for an offensive defenseman he's not that good in transition-he gets most of his points from the team being set up in the zone.

He's also a guy that the Flyers have been trying to trade for most of the season. Sure he's more valuable now that a lot of his salary is paid off, but the others are more attractive, IMO.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:19 PM ET
What I dont understand is why everyone says that other teams are demanding 1st for there pending UFA's but we would only get mid round picks for mez...Am I missing something?
- nonpoint22

His inability to stay healthy. The fact that everytime he touches the puck in his own end you can feel the collective fanbase cringe because we assume something terrible is about to happen... That's all I got

Edit: damn jsaq beat me to it
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:19 PM ET
Yeah, maybe they can flip Gus for Gilbert. That's intriguing, to say the least.

i don;t think Gustafsson is a cure all, but he should be playing because he brings speed/mobility and puck moving skills that they lack badly.

- Jsaquella


The Flyers always seem to value size over mobility in the backend. I agree Gus should be playing, but since he isn't and guys in the pipeline are developing, it just maybe time to use him as a tradeable asset and see what they can get.

I think we can agree, Gus is not suited to be a 7th d-man, and at this point it is almost counter productive to send him back down (I'm not even sure he is waiver exempt).
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:19 PM ET
Nice Bruins scored. Up 2-1 in the 2nd.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:19 PM ET
Wow ....what away to build a defence.....Streit, Gervais and now Macdonald ???? Does Dave Brown have season tickets for the Islanders ?......seriously the Islanders were the worst team in the east with these 3 guys on their D? What's the bloody attraction ?
- landros 2


Brown's watching the Bruins-Rangers tonight. As to why the Flyers would be interested in MacDonald, I don't know. He'd be an upgrade in some respects, but if they really want that high a price for him, I would look elsewhere or stand pat.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 2 @ 8:21 PM ET
His inability to stay healthy. The fact that everytime he touches the puck in his own end you can feel the collective fanbase cringe because we assume something terrible is about to happen... That's all I got

Edit: damn jsaq beat me to it

- fecondo


Thats all you need
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:22 PM ET
The Flyers always seem to value size over mobility in the backend. I agree Gus should be playing, but since he isn't and guys in the pipeline are developing, it just maybe time to use him as a tradeable asset and see what they can get.

I think we can agree, Gus is not suited to be a 7th d-man, and at this point it is almost counter productive to send him back down (I'm not even sure he is waiver exempt).

- ravishingone


Gus would have to clear waivers, so the AHL isn't a realistic option. The kid needs to play, but Berube seems to be more willing to bench Gustafsson for his mistakes more than other defensemen.

I mean, I look at Schenn's play today, and Grossmann on that second goal and I wonder why the Hell they stay in over Gustafsson...sure he might not be great in his own end, but Schenn and Grossmann hardly looked like Rod Langway and Scott Stevens today.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 2 @ 8:24 PM ET
Trivia Time:

First player to score on Ryan Miller as a member of the St Louis Blues?


Paul "Biz Nasty" Bissonette
EastBeast18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.19.2010

Mar 2 @ 8:25 PM ET
It's way too quiet in the flyers camp. Went from hearing small rumors about Kessler, edler, buff etc, to nothing. Could mean they are working on something big, or could mean that the are doing nothing. Guess we"ll see soon.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:26 PM ET
Soderberg scores.. 3-1 B's
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:27 PM ET
Nice Bruins scored. Up 2-1 in the 2nd.
- Pixote Andolini

Up 3-1 now; Soderberg.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 2 @ 8:27 PM ET
DOMINANT shift by Bruins Wow 3-1
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 2 @ 8:27 PM ET
Gus would have to clear waivers, so the AHL isn't a realistic option. The kid needs to play, but Berube seems to be more willing to bench Gustafsson for his mistakes more than other defensemen.

I mean, I look at Schenn's play today, and Grossmann on that second goal and I wonder why the Hell they stay in over Gustafsson...sure he might not be great in his own end, but Schenn and Grossmann hardly looked like Rod Langway and Scott Stevens today.

- Jsaquella


In the end it's all about size. Also, Gus has decent offensive tools, but nothing really jumps out as above average. That's why I really can't wait for Ghost to turn pro and see how his game translates at the professional level. I hope he gets a cup of coffee in the AHL this year.
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