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Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
Another Canucks player has to be coming back. Just way too much for one player
- drummer829


Jannick Hansen better be coming back. That is too much for a player that isn't the final piece to the puzzle. Shero is too star struck and can't help himself. If this happens and the Pens don't make it to the Cup, both DB and Shero should get canned.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
A proposed deal would send Kesler to the Penguins in exchange for center Brandon Sutter, two 2014 draft picks — likely a first- and third-round — and the Canucks' choice of defensemen Simon Despres or Brian Dumoulin, the sources said.

Sign me up

- Ryan_Wilson

Either one is fine... Pouliot not being included is a big plus
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM ET
They interviewed bylsma and he's acting like they're up 5-0. Where's the urgency? You're getting man handled by one of the best teams in the nhl.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM ET
They interviewed bylsma and he's acting like they're up 5-0. Where's the urgency? You're getting man handled by one of the best teams in the nhl.
- drummer829



BD shows zero emotion.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:49 PM ET
Jannick Hansen better be coming back. That is too much for a player that isn't the final piece to the puzzle. Shero is too star struck and can't help himself. If this happens and the Pens don't make it to the Cup, both DB and Shero should get canned.
- Oneonta Penguin


That deal could probably land a top winger for sid
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:49 PM ET
Jannick Hansen better be coming back. That is too much for a player that isn't the final piece to the puzzle. Shero is too star struck and can't help himself. If this happens and the Pens don't make it to the Cup, both DB and Shero should get canned.
- Oneonta Penguin


We'll Sutter just went down, deal off!!!
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM ET
Can we put orpik in that deal instead of despres
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM ET
That deal could probably land a top winger for sid
- drummer829


Give up that for a third line center for the Pens and we still lack a winger for Sid moving forward. Exactly.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM ET
Brooks please proceed to pick your jock strap up off the ice and take a plop on the pine.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM ET
BD shows zero emotion.
- Oneonta Penguin


He's acting like he's at the damn carnival though.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 1 @ 9:51 PM ET
the overvaluing of picks and prospects on this board is quite amazing.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:52 PM ET
I'm done with this game. Zero effort; no one wants to be there for the Pens and ridiculous conditions.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 1 @ 9:52 PM ET
why are Oprik and Scuds playing together... I feel like I could skate around them.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 1 @ 9:53 PM ET
Give up that for a third line center for the Pens and we still lack a winger for Sid moving forward. Exactly.
- Oneonta Penguin

That doesn't mean we would be done on the trades. Chill out boys. Hemsky and Boyes still can be had.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:53 PM ET
the overvaluing of picks and prospects on this board is quite amazing.
- SuperHenderson13


The overvaluing of kesler is quite amazing. Why trade for him if he's going to be on a line with glass and pyatt
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 1 @ 9:53 PM ET
That goal against nicely summarizes the Penguins' problems.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
He's acting like he's at the damn carnival though.
- drummer829


It's almost like he doesn't realize how badly his team is being outplayed.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
the overvaluing of picks and prospects on this board is quite amazing.
- SuperHenderson13



It's not overvaluing picks and prospects. It's Shero showing a LACK OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. Comments like yours annoy the hell out of me. Keep trading away first round picks, and have drafts in which you don't pick until the fourth round DOESN'T refortify the farm system that is lacking in so many ways. We have few valuable assets to begin with. What happens when there is nothing left of value to deal down the road in the farm system and Pittsburgh NEEDS a final piece to a Cup winning team? This isn't a Cup winning team with Kesler. Not close.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
why are Oprik and Scuds playing together... I feel like I could skate around them.
- SuperHenderson13

That's a bad match. Two old players.

I don't like our effort at all. Mailing it in.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
saw DePaoli just answer someone with a "yes" when they asked if we could get a 2nd or 1st for Oprik.

If that is the case, you had better do that.... why anyone would pay that is beyond me.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
That doesn't mean we would be done on the trades. Chill out boys. Hemsky and Boyes still can be had.
- Orpik44


It would be done. We couldn't afford to deal anything for Hemsky or Boyes, unless Shero trades out of the draft entirely and gives away Ruopp and Blueger as well. If this happens along with Hemsky and Boyes, this is all like last year. A total failure and a waste of assets.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
The overvaluing of kesler is quite amazing. Why trade for him if he's going to be on a line with glass and pyatt
- drummer829

Boyes and Hemsky can be had.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 1 @ 9:57 PM ET
saw DePaoli just answer someone with a "yes" when they asked if we could get a 2nd or 1st for Oprik.

If that is the case, you had better do that.... why anyone would pay that is beyond me.

- SuperHenderson13



So, trade Despres; trade Orpik; Letang could be out for the season; Martin is out for a while still. Remind me who will play on the blueline outside of Maatta and Niskanen? Yep, I thought so ...
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
It's not overvaluing picks and prospects. It's Shero showing a LACK OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. Comments like yours annoy the hell out of me. Keep trading away first round picks, and have drafts in which you don't pick until the fourth round DOESN'T refortify the farm system that is lacking in so many ways. We have few valuable assets to begin with. What happens when there is nothing left of value to deal down the road in the farm system and Pittsburgh NEEDS a final piece to a Cup winning team? This isn't a Cup winning team with Kesler. Not close.
- Oneonta Penguin


Exactly, use those picks and prospects to grab a young top 6 winger. That way there's really no NEED to draft a winger or forward, you can draft the best available. You do that and you have your top 6 set for the next 3-4 years. You could then move dupuis and Bennett next year down with sutter and the 3rd line becomes legit. Why trade picks and prospects for a 2 year rental who will be skating with lousy 4th liners
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Mar 1 @ 10:01 PM ET
It's not overvaluing picks and prospects. It's Shero showing a LACK OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. Comments like yours annoy the hell out of me. Keep trading away first round picks, and have drafts in which you don't pick until the fourth round DOESN'T refortify the farm system that is lacking in so many ways. We have few valuable assets to begin with. What happens when there is nothing left of value to deal down the road in the farm system and Pittsburgh NEEDS a final piece to a Cup winning team? This isn't a Cup winning team with Kesler. Not close.
- Oneonta Penguin

alright, first of all... relax.

second, the penguins can afford trade picks with the emergence of Maatta and the development of Pouliot. It is as simple as that. You act like a 1st round pick is the key to a championship. the penguins had 5 guys drafted in the first round on their 09 cup winning roster.

long story short, trading picks and prospects to rebuilding teams while your best players are in their prime is nothing new and nothing ridiculous.
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