Holy crap im getting excited about this, not getting Kesler but getting rid of Sutter.
- nbartley9

Hahahahahaha !! You kill me ! I'm excited about the IDEA of getting Kesler , but consider me still skeptical at this point.

Kesler would be a great addition... Can only comment on its effect when and if we see the return going back. Has to be at the deadline though!

Apparently Madden (yeah I know) said the the Pens offered Sutter and Pouliot for Kesler and the Canucks rejected it.

I like the idea of getting Kesler and returning to the 3C model, but I just don't see it as realistic unless Shero is able to get Kesler for less than I think he could. But let's assume it centers around Sutter and Pouliot and possibly something else, as long as it isn't Bennett. I would like the Pens chances with this lineup going into the playoffs.

Kunitz-Crosby-Gibbons/Bennett
Jokinen-Malkin-Neal
Bennett/Gibbons-Kesler-Megna
Glass-Vitale-Engelland
Adams

Martin-Orpik
Niskanen-Maatta
Despres-Scuderi
Bortuzzo

Fleury
Vokoun

Apparently Madden (yeah I know) said the the Pens offered Sutter and Pouliot for Kesler and the Canucks rejected it.
- acdc1206

Did he say that today?

Did he say that today?
- nbartley9

Yes. He said it within the hour.

Apparently Madden (yeah I know) said the the Pens offered Sutter and Pouliot for Kesler and the Canucks rejected it.
- acdc1206

That was reported before too...

Not sure what else they would want, or if they are just seeing what other offers are there. In the end, who knows what Gillis will do. He hasn't moved Luongo yet because he was too stubborn to eat any of the money or lower his asking price.

Kesler has the NTC, so he can force a move somewhere too, but who knows if he'll get moved.

Yes. He said it within the hour.
- acdc1206

Interesting, one of 2 things; either the Nucks let that leak to try and entice a better offer from another club, or to try and get the Pens to put a better offer together very quickly. My opinion is that Kesler has played his last game as a Canuck either way. It must be a pretty bad situation over there.

The game has begun.

Kunitz-Crosby-Gibbons/Bennett
Jokinen-Malkin-Neal
Bennett/Gibbons-Kesler-Megna
Glass-Vitale-Engelland
Adams

Martin-Orpik
Niskanen-Maatta
Despres-Scuderi
Bortuzzo

Fleury
Vokoun
- PensFan1103

I agree

I agree
- nelson911

Gibbons-Kesler-Megna if I was Kesler I would not be thrilled about that future...

That was reported before too...

Not sure what else they would want, or if they are just seeing what other offers are there. In the end, who knows what Gillis will do. He hasn't moved Luongo yet because he was too stubborn to eat any of the money or lower his asking price.

Kesler has the NTC, so he can force a move somewhere too, but who knows if he'll get moved.
- rival22

Personally I don't want them to trade Pouliot at this time. He's tearing it up right now and with the uncertainty of Letang's future I rather them keep him for now.

Gibbons-Kesler-Megna if I was Kesler I would not be thrilled about that future...
- nbartley9

I'm intrigued by a healthy Bennett on his wing

I'm ashamed to be your neighbor....
- nelson911

My neighbor's are Amish.

Seriously.

I like the idea of getting Kesler and returning to the 3C model, but I just don't see it as realistic unless Shero is able to get Kesler for less than I think he could. But let's assume it centers around Sutter and Pouliot and possibly something else, as long as it isn't Bennett. I would like the Pens chances with this lineup going into the playoffs.

Kunitz-Crosby-Gibbons/Bennett
Jokinen-Malkin-Neal
Bennett/Gibbons-Kesler-Megna
Glass-Vitale-Engelland
Adams

Martin-Orpik
Niskanen-Maatta
Despres-Scuderi
Bortuzzo

Fleury
Vokoun
- PensFan1103

You DON'T trade Pouliot over Bennett, especially with the turnover coming in our blueline over the next two years. Pouliot of a PMD and will be on a relatively cheap entry level contract which is something a team like Pittsburgh needs due to it being close to the top of the hard cap.

Apparently Madden (yeah I know) said the the Pens offered Sutter and Pouliot for Kesler and the Canucks rejected it.
- acdc1206

They want a first too. I'm glad they rejected it. Foolish to trade Pouliot.

You DON'T trade Pouliot over Bennett.
- Oneonta Penguin

I would because of our depth at defense and the lack of depth at forward. I feel like Bennett is worth more to the Pens than other teams because we have no forward prospects.

As far as anything more than Sutter + Pouliot for Kesler, I would consider a forward prospect other than Bennett such as Sundqvist or Blueger, but nothing more than that. Not giving up the 1st or Bennett in that deal.

Gibbons-Kesler-Megna if I was Kesler I would not be thrilled about that future...
- nbartley9

That would be just for this year. The Pens would have a little cap space to play with to add somebody to Kesler next year. I like Megna though, wouldn't mind keeping him there next year as well.

They want a first too. I'm glad they rejected it. Foolish to trade Pouliot.
- Oneonta Penguin

The same things we hear about Pouliot we heard about Despres, Morrow, and Harrington. Where are those 3? Despres and Harrington I truly believe will pan out into NHLers eventually, but no guarantee they are difference makers. Same thing could happen to Pouliot. I just think when you have the chance to get a proven commodity for potential commodities, you do it.

WILKES-BARRE, Pa. – The Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins announced today that forwards Tom Kuhnhackl and Anton Zlobin have been assigned to the Wheeling Nailers (ECHL) by the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Also, as far as the overwhelming Defensive depth...you trade Poulliot, your depth just took a huge shot. Despres is on the outs with the coaching staff and the D-Squad here in WBS is nothing to brag about.

The same things we hear about Pouliot we heard about Despres, Morrow, and Harrington. Where are those 3? Despres and Harrington I truly believe will pan out into NHLers eventually, but no guarantee they are difference makers. Same thing could happen to Pouliot. I just think when you have the chance to get a proven commodity for potential commodities, you do it.
- PensFan1103

I agree with this as well.... Prospects are great, but they are still just prospects.

Pouliot might be the next Keith Yandle, or he can be the next Alex Goligoski, or a fringe NHL player. If moving him gets you Ryan Kesler for 3 playoff runs, then count me in. Even if he's good, Pouliot doesn't make an impact here for at least 2 more seasons.

I would because of our depth at defense and the lack of depth at forward. I feel like Bennett is worth more to the Pens than other teams because we have no forward prospects.

As far as anything more than Sutter + Pouliot for Kesler, I would consider a forward prospect other than Bennett such as Sundqvist or Blueger, but nothing more than that. Not giving up the 1st or Bennett in that deal.
- PensFan1103

What exactly has Bennett done to show you he is worth keeping? He is getting close to having the term fragile on him. Who's fault is it we have no forward prospects? It's because we make dumb moves that make no sense and end up trading high picks to acquire these players.

You keep trading high assets like Pouliot, your list gets shorter of assets. Also, he is Letang's replacement when and if he gets traded or once again goes on long term injury list for his various ailments he has sustained.

I agree with this as well.... Prospects are great, but they are still just prospects.

Pouliot might be the next Keith Yandle, or he can be the next Alex Goligoski, or a fringe NHL player. If moving him gets you Ryan Kesler for 3 playoff runs, then count me in. Even if he's good, Pouliot doesn't make an impact here for at least 2 more seasons.
- rival22

Pouliot could very well make a Maatta jump next year. Last I checked, we could very well lose three defensemen to free agency and we will be close to the cap. Pouliot's contract would be attractive to the Pens to keep. Not sure the vast majority of people understand that.

Maybe we should trade our entire farm system because they are only prospects, right. Then we won't have anything to move to make any other trades. Essentially that is what we are doing. We really have a lousy pool of high end assets.

I'm intrigued by a healthy Bennett on his wing
- nelson911

Brittle Beau Bennett and his 4 career goals. Well, he really is our only hope inside the organization.

If he is the answer then the question must be pretty difficult.

The same things we hear about Pouliot we heard about Despres, Morrow, and Harrington. Where are those 3? Despres and Harrington I truly believe will pan out into NHLers eventually, but no guarantee they are difference makers. Same thing could happen to Pouliot. I just think when you have the chance to get a proven commodity for potential commodities, you do it.
- PensFan1103

and last year, Maatta would have been on your list. Look at what he has done. Not saying Pouliot is Maatta, but he is a valuable commodity to hold onto. To me, he is better than Despres and I hold Despres in high regards, certainly moreso than our organization does.

Kesler isn't the missing piece we need to contend for a title. Not even close. This roster was put together poorly in a few areas; we have had injuries that have hurt, and we are close to the cap.

The deal that would have ultimately made perfect sense would have been Kesler to Pittsburgh for Letang. Shero offering that extension to him and not trading him right after will cost this organization. It already has.

What exactly has Bennett done to show you he is worth keeping? He is getting close to having the term fragile on him. Who's fault is it we have no forward prospects? It's because we make dumb moves that make no sense and end up trading high picks to acquire these players.

You keep trading high assets like Pouliot, your list gets shorter of assets. Also, he is Letang's replacement when and if he gets traded or once again goes on long term injury list for his various ailments he has sustained.
- Oneonta Penguin

Bennett has looked good when he has played. You keep saying this, but the only knock on him is his injuries. If you don't think he has looked good when he has been healthy, then I don't know what to tell you. I thought he looked good last year and just needed to add some weight and muscle, which he clearly did in the off-season.

And just because mistakes were made last year with all of the rentals, doesn't mean you ignore the need to upgrade this year. And Kesler isn't a rental, we would have him for this year plus 2 more. And that goes for any other player we might go after as well that still has term. I don't think rental is the solution this year, especially with some of the ludicrous demands some teams have thrown out there, but if you can bring in a forward with term, you have to be willing to give something up, and why not a high end D prospect who best case scenario comes up next year, but more than likely doesn't see the NHL team until the following year or if he stumbles the year after.