Another observation of last night Fleury looked like he was prepping for the playoffs.

So he's not worth what a first line centre is then?

The last couple weeks I've had the pleasure of leaning how your fan base is. Kunitz is a top nhl winger and kesler is a third line centre.

Thanks guys, you really know how to turn it down.
- Scooby_Doo

Kesler is a 2nd line center. No more, no less. But how can you think Kunitz isn't a top nhl winger? Do you not watch him play? He's a 1st line winger on any nhl team

You Vancouver fans need to stop and understand where you are and then learn some reading comprehension. You are on a Pens forum. Most people posting comments are posting from a Pens point of view. So when most of us say that Kesler or Toews would be 3rd line centers for the Pens and therefore wouldn't be worth the top assets that would be required to get them. That is not worth it from a PENS point of view, not that they aren't worth that much to other teams. It's pretty simple.

Budaj has a great advantage in the shootout: he's super goofy looking. Once you skate in close enough to get a look through the cage, the mind freezes up with surprise and so on. The hands follow.
- Johnny Wrath

You Vancouver fans need to stop and understand where you are and then learn some reading comprehension. You are on a Pens forum. Most people posting comments are posting from a Pens point of view. So when most of us say that Kesler or Toews would be 3rd line centers for the Pens and therefore wouldn't be worth the top assets that would be required to get them. That is not worth it from a PENS point of view, not that they aren't worth that much to other teams. It's pretty simple.
- PensFan1103

I would play Malkin at RW if I had a Toews or Kesler to play centre.

You got a serious gift two points last night. Thank the refs for giving you that five minute major which led to that clown's second goal.
- Oneonta Penguin

I like to see the NHL adopt instant replay to look at 5 minute majors to see if they really deserve a call like that.

Maata, Pouliot, Crosby, and 8 1sts for Kesler and a 3rd.

I really think the Pens should hold Crosby out of tomorrow's game. We all remember the last time he played in a nighttime outdoor game. I say this partly joking but with some seriousness.

Frankly, I would rather the NHL let two of its best teams play under ideal conditions (like inside on a quality sheet of ice) instead of outside in the Polar Vortex.

I like to see the NHL adopt instant replay to look at 5 minute majors to see if they really deserve a call like that.
- acdc1206

Yeah... I agree. I don't want every minor reviewed, but cut and dry high sticks, hits to the head, etc that result in a 5 min PP and an game misconduct need to be correct.

I really think the Pens should hold Crosby out of tomorrow's game. We all remember the last time he played in a nighttime outdoor game. I say this partly joking but with some seriousness.

Frankly, I would rather the NHL let two of its best teams play under ideal conditions (like inside on a quality sheet of ice) instead of outside in the Polar Vortex.
- Tiogadog

That was a long nightmare.

Updated Pens prospect rankings:
http://www.hockeysfuture....h-penguins-prospect-pool/

You said for a third line centre like him.
Meaning his value is lower because he's a third line centre. He also plays the wing, and more than likely would on the Pens.

I'm pretty sure it was clear what you were saying, don't back track now.

I guess Toews would be a third line centre on the pens too.
- Scooby_Doo

YIt was pretty clear what I said. Big difference between Toews and Kesler there chief.

You are more annoying than delusional Edmonton or Toronto fan when pumping up Hemsky and Kulemin to Pittsburgh.

If you understood the way the Penguins were built, which you have no clue, they are built having three solid centers. Kesler would center the third line, unless Pittsburgh wanted Joe Vitale to do that because Sutter would be traded. It's not rocket science here champ.

Updated Pens prospect rankings:
http://www.hockeysfuture....h-penguins-prospect-pool/
- rival22

I wonder if that Dea kid will ever amount to anything.

Joe Starkey just tweeted that Jason Botchford in Vancouver has reported that Pens have indeed contacted the Canucks about Kesler, and Kesler said he would waive his NT to play in Pittsburgh, he wants to play in the US and in the East.

Looks like the Kesler rumors are true.

Joe Starkey just tweeted that Jason Botchford in Vancouver has reported that Pens have indeed contacted the Canucks about Kesler, and Kesler said he would waive his NT to play in Pittsburgh, he wants to play in the US and in the East.

Looks like the Kesler rumors are true.
- nbartley9

Botch is hit and miss with his info. More miss.

But it's entirely plausible.

Who wouldn't waive for Pitts?

Botch is hit and miss with his info. More miss.

But it's entirely plausible.

Who wouldn't waive for Pitts?
- Fosco

Giroux

You Vancouver fans need to stop and understand where you are and then learn some reading comprehension. You are on a Pens forum. Most people posting comments are posting from a Pens point of view. So when most of us say that Kesler or Toews would be 3rd line centers for the Pens and therefore wouldn't be worth the top assets that would be required to get them. That is not worth it from a PENS point of view, not that they aren't worth that much to other teams. It's pretty simple.
- PensFan1103

This is a 100% correct. It just so happens we have the best player in the world and another that is probably among the top four. They both play center too. If Vancouver fan thinks Kesler, who is a very good player, supplants Crosby or Malkin to nudge in the top two, they are delusional. Kesler is a second line center for 99% of the teams in the NHL. He happens to be a third line center on one team and that is Pittsburgh.

Giroux
- nbartley9

I'm shocked you didn't mention another name.

Joe Starkey just tweeted that Jason Botchford in Vancouver has reported that Pens have indeed contacted the Canucks about Kesler, and Kesler said he would waive his NT to play in Pittsburgh, he wants to play in the US and in the East.

Looks like the Kesler rumors are true.
- nbartley9

If the asking price is three heavy assets and this deal would happen, Shero should be canned immediately. He is all the sudden one of the worst GMs in asset management and this time next year, we will have nothing anyone wants because all will have been traded.

Another observation of last night Fleury looked like he was prepping for the playoffs.
- holeinone

How many of those goals were truly his fault? I will wait for the answer. I rag on Fleury quite a bit, but that wasn't on him.

Joe Starkey just tweeted that Jason Botchford in Vancouver has reported that Pens have indeed contacted the Canucks about Kesler, and Kesler said he would waive his NT to play in Pittsburgh, he wants to play in the US and in the East.

Looks like the Kesler rumors are true.
- nbartley9

DePaoli also tweeted that the Pens pulled back on the idea of extending Sutter during season, mulling serious run at Kesler

If the asking price is three heavy assets and this deal would happen, Shero should be canned immediately. He is all the sudden one of the worst GMs in asset management and this time next year, we will have nothing anyone wants because all will have been traded.
- Oneonta Penguin

Well, it never hurts to have some depth - chances are you will find yourself with either of Crosby or Malkin injured at some point in time.

Having the option of a 3rd line center who could bump up without castrating your offense would be nice. Also, allowing more ice time for the third line is worth a lot through a long season. It will be interesting to see how much it takes to get Kesler to Pit. I think he is overvalued by most Vancouver fans, and undervalued by most pens fans(the third line center POV stated above.) The truth is probably somewhere in between.

DePaoli also tweeted that the Pens pulled back on the idea of extending Sutter during season, mulling serious run at Kesler
- cap1681

Holy crap im getting excited about this, not getting Kesler but getting rid of Sutter.

I wonder if that Dea kid will ever amount to anything.
- Ryan_Wilson

I've taken a liking to him lol...

If anyone thought that his 45 goals were a fluke last season, he has 44 right now with some games to go.

Hopefully his billet family is feeding his scrawny ass.

Well, it never hurts to have some depth - chances are you will find yourself with either of Crosby or Malkin injured at some point in time.

Having the option of a 3rd line center who could bump up without castrating your offense would be nice. Also, allowing more ice time for the third line is worth a lot through a long season. It will be interesting to see how much it takes to get Kesler to Pit. I think he is overvalued by most Vancouver fans, and undervalued by most pens fans(the third line center POV stated above.) The truth is probably somewhere in between.
- Bearintheforest

Listen, I like Kesler alot as a player. He brings alot of attributes Staal did when he was here. He could score and play very good defense. That said, is he truly the missing piece? Nope. Not close. We are good enough to win the Eastern title, but still lose in the Cup. Why? Our third and fourth lines suck ass and we have zero secondary scoring. Kesler doesn't change that. If he comes in as Sid's winger, we still have a move to make. If he comes in as third line center in place of Sutter, who would be going the other direction, we have major move to make. Because of trades in the last two years, mostly for rentals, we have a limited pool of top notch assets. Kesler will take three of those. I have said this time and time again, you keep trading first round picks, second round picks and top assets like we have in the last two years, you won't be able to make a major move down the road because you have no trade chips.

I can't stand the thought of Ales Hemsky at all. He is an enigma; he is fragile; he is a non producer too. However, based on this roster set up; our asset pool and what the price would be, he might be the best move to make. A third rounder and a prospect like Ruopp or someone like that gets it done. You aren't giving up much. Yes, you are getting an enigma, but he has skill and ability to play with Sid. If he sucks, you don't resign him because he is a ufa after the season.