I hate everything about this thread. Calgary fans, "Larsson hasn't developed and Cami isn't completely awful and worthless. So you guys should give us your top-4 pick for a UFA"

Can we get a new blog to wash away all of these terrible dialogues?

Besides, Larsson is Swedish. That hurts his value.
- FLdevilsFAN

hey you said it i didn't!!! yes i would move larsson for cammy, simply because larsson has fallen down the depth chart in NJ. nobody is taking salvador or volchenkov, and we only have 1 buyout left, harrold is signed for anthor year and as long as debeor is still coach, he isn't going anywhere. so next year the devils defense will be greene,fayne,merrill,gelinas,harrold and either sal or volchenkov, which means larsson is in albany or the press box again next season. plus in seems like severson and santini are higher on the devils depth chart now anyway?

Changing subject, Bleacher Report think Legwand will wind up in a Devils uniform to solidify the 3rd line. If you can get him relatively cheaply, I like that a lot

Changing subject, Bleacher Report think Legwand will wind up in a Devils uniform to solidify the 3rd line. If you can get him relatively cheaply, I like that a lot
- jtirri

hey you said it i didn't!!! yes i would move larsson for cammy, simply because larsson has fallen down the depth chart in NJ. nobody is taking salvador or volchenkov, and we only have 1 buyout left, harrold is signed for anthor year and as long as debeor is still coach, he isn't going anywhere. so next year the devils defense will be greene,fayne,merrill,gelinas,harrold and either sal or volchenkov, which means larsson is in albany or the press box again next season. plus in seems like severson and santini are higher on the devils depth chart now anyway?
- devfan30

So..you would trade a 21 year old d-man for a guy who hasn't scored 20 goals in 5 years, but yet Cam is suppose to push us into the playoffs? The guy has 13 goals on the year, give up a 21 d-man for a second line forward which we already have plenty of because we have too many defensemen and he's farther down the depth chart? How did you figure that out. Severson and Santini aren't even playing in Albany yet Larrson is under them on the depth chart because PDB don't know what he's doing with him because we got to stay loyal to veterans. It's bull crap, you earn your time and Larrson is a hell of a lot better than the majority of our D, but hey we have too many and he's clearly lower than other players that are not even playing in the system.

Changing subject, Bleacher Report think Legwand will wind up in a Devils uniform to solidify the 3rd line. If you can get him relatively cheaply, I like that a lot
- jtirri

I would prefer to get our center position situated instead of putting Lokti or JJ in the spot and not do anything offensively. Whether it's Legwand/Statsny or someone else that can actually produce, I'm all for it. In fact, I would get the center set than worry about getting other players that would improve our wing situation.

hey you said it i didn't!!! yes i would move larsson for cammy, simply because larsson has fallen down the depth chart in NJ. nobody is taking salvador or volchenkov, and we only have 1 buyout left, harrold is signed for anthor year and as long as debeor is still coach, he isn't going anywhere. so next year the devils defense will be greene,fayne,merrill,gelinas,harrold and either sal or volchenkov, which means larsson is in albany or the press box again next season. plus in seems like severson and santini are higher on the devils depth chart now anyway?
- devfan30

Why so quick to give up on a 21 year old defenseman, who has shown signs of brilliance periodically? Yes Larsson was supposed to be NHL ready when we drafted him, but that was kind of a misnomer anyway. Larsson is only in his 3rd year of play, and he's been forced to sit when he should've been playing. To trade Larsson for Camm is absolutely dumb. Especially when you consider how good of a player Larsson will be. His time in Albany may actually help him too, he's going to get real playing time too; which will only help him.

If we give up any one of Santini, Severson, Larsson, Merrill, Gelinas, or Boucher; just to get Cammy, I'm done. Our D prospects (and very very few forward prospects) are the only bright side that allows me to be ok with this love affair of Pete Jr. and Volchenkov. We give any of the aforementioned up for a pending UFA who really isn't a goal scoring machine, we've truly thrown in the towel as an organization.

Why so quick to give up on a 21 year old defenseman, who has shown signs of brilliance periodically? Yes Larsson was supposed to be NHL ready when we drafted him, but that was kind of a misnomer anyway. Larsson is only in his 3rd year of play, and he's been forced to sit when he should've been playing. To trade Larsson for Camm is absolutely dumb. Especially when you consider how good of a player Larsson will be. His time in Albany may actually help him too, he's going to get real playing time too; which will only help him.

If we give up any one of Santini, Severson, Larsson, Merrill, Gelinas, or Boucher; just to get Cammy, I'm done. Our D prospects (and very very few forward prospects) are the only bright side that allows me to be ok with this love affair of Pete Jr. and Volchenkov. We give any of the aforementioned up for a pending UFA who really isn't a goal scoring machine, we've truly thrown in the towel as an organization.
- Devilsdoc30

Exactly. Giving up any of those players for a second line UFA player, at best, is suicide. And if Lou does trade one of the young guys and don't get back a Kovalchuk like player, i.e. four years ago, than we don't move them and wait for free agency to get a legitimate center to have three solid centers and try to buy Vanek or other wingers that will improve the team.

What would it be worth to you guys if we took one of your over paid vets on D off your hands to make room for your younger guys. Would you do:

To NJD: Cammi (to help push for PO's and hopefully beyond), and our 2nd(likely #31-33).

To CGY: either of Volchenkov, Greene, Salvador and Larsson and your 2nd.

What would it be worth to you guys if we took one of your over paid vets on D off your hands to make room for your younger guys. Would you do:

To NJD: Cammi (to help push for PO's and hopefully beyond), and our 2nd(likely #31-33).

To CGY: either of Volchenkov, Greene, Salvador and Larsson and your 2nd.
- TandA4Flames

Greene is the opposite of overpaid. He's been out best defender. We also aren't trading our 2nd, gurenteed. If these talks were in anyway serious, I imagine they'd top out around Grahm Black. We can sign Cami for free in a few months, and he's shown no signs of reupping in Calgary.

Yeah, Larsson is terrible. We should def trade him. Throw him in a trash can, kind's washed up.

It just occurred to me that the majority of people don't think Dan Girardi is a useless pylon cone who can barely play hockey.

With the emergence of Gelinas and Merrill it makes Larsson expendable.

With the emergence of Gelinas and Merrill it makes Larsson expendable.
- FAZOOL

Yeah but both Merrill and Gelinas are older than Larsson. Larsson has yet to find his stride in the NHL, but has been criticized for every single mistake he's ever made. Not to mention, Merrill played for the Wolverines last year in the NCAA, and he saw crazy amounts of playing time; he was able to make mistakes and learned from them. Larsson has only ever been on the NHL club since he was 18, that's a lot of pressure for a young defenseman.

With the emergence of Gelinas and Merrill it makes Larsson expendable.
- FAZOOL

yup, we'll only need 2 defensemen for the rest of time.

Yeah but both Merrill and Gelinas are older than Larsson. Larsson has yet to find his stride in the NHL, but has been criticized for every single mistake he's ever made. Not to mention, Merrill played for the Wolverines last year in the NCAA, and he saw crazy amounts of playing time; he was able to make mistakes and learned from them. Larsson has only ever been on the NHL club since he was 18, that's a lot of pressure for a young defenseman.
- Devilsdoc30

Who would you rather trade out of the three?

Watching the Sarbes game. "Tallinder is heavily rumored" WHY WASN'T HE HEAVILY RUMORED WHEN WE HAD HIM? Had literally 0 value when we moved him

Watching the Sarbes game. "Tallinder is heavily rumored" WHY WASN'T HE HEAVILY RUMORED WHEN WE HAD HIM? Had literally 0 value when we moved him
- TheJerseyDevil1

Let me guess Lou is interested in bringing him back.

Who would you rather trade out of the three?
- FAZOOL

None of them if I didn't have to. If I was forced, I'd have a hard time deciding. Each one brings a different aspect to the game. Literally. Gelinas is a offensively minded D-man, Larsson is a 2-way Dman, and Merrill is a Defensively minded D-man. I'd keep Merrill because we need that kind of D-man. We have Severson coming up, and he's offensively inclined. It's a toss up between Gelinas and Larsson, only because of who Larsson can become. If Larsson was a couple years older and looked like he was approaching bust territory, I'd trade him.

Gelinas took a while to develop, and I wouldn't be surprised if Larsson took the same time. Plus, don't we have Urbom on the AHL squad again, or did I read that wrong a while ago, where the caps put him back on waivers and we claimed him?

Random thought but if we're definitely buyers, what do people think of Radim Vrbata as a rental? Certainly better than Cammalleri IMO. Still 32 years old, but could blend with our Czechs?

None of them if I didn't have to. If I was forced, I'd have a hard time deciding. Each one brings a different aspect to the game. Literally. Gelinas is a offensively minded D-man, Larsson is a 2-way Dman, and Merrill is a Defensively minded D-man. I'd keep Merrill because we need that kind of D-man. We have Severson coming up, and he's offensively inclined. It's a toss up between Gelinas and Larsson, only because of who Larsson can become. If Larsson was a couple years older and looked like he was approaching bust territory, I'd trade him.

Gelinas took a while to develop, and I wouldn't be surprised if Larsson took the same time. Plus, don't we have Urbom on the AHL squad again, or did I read that wrong a while ago, where the caps put him back on waivers and we claimed him?
- Devilsdoc30

maybe i'm missing something but what exactly in his track record has told you larsson is a 2 way defenseman, he has nothing to offer on the offensive side of things. his numbers in sweden weren't any good?

maybe i'm missing something but what exactly in his track record has told you larsson is a 2 way defenseman, he has nothing to offer on the offensive side of things. his numbers in sweden weren't any good?
- devfan30

#moron

#moron
- MrToast

the guy has 3 goals and 24 assists in 122 NHL games. not exactly big time offensive numbers? those are ken daneyko numbers, and nobody things number 3 was a 2 way player?

yes point totals are the only things that determine whether you're offensive or defensive minded.

dumb arguments are dumb

None of them if I didn't have to. If I was forced, I'd have a hard time deciding. Each one brings a different aspect to the game. Literally. Gelinas is a offensively minded D-man, Larsson is a 2-way Dman, and Merrill is a Defensively minded D-man. I'd keep Merrill because we need that kind of D-man. We have Severson coming up, and he's offensively inclined. It's a toss up between Gelinas and Larsson, only because of who Larsson can become. If Larsson was a couple years older and looked like he was approaching bust territory, I'd trade him.

Gelinas took a while to develop, and I wouldn't be surprised if Larsson took the same time. Plus, don't we have Urbom on the AHL squad again, or did I read that wrong a while ago, where the caps put him back on waivers and we claimed him?
- Devilsdoc30

I'd like to keep all three as well but if we had to Larsson would be the one to go for me.
Merrill went right from college to the AHL and i don't think played many games down there before being called up. He's going to have a very successful career in the NHL.
Gelinas definitely needs some work on his defense but that bomb of a shot is hard to overlook.
Larsson has shown signs that he can be a good NHL player but his game just hasn't progressed yet and if he was the player we all think he is then he should be playing for the Devils and Harrold should be in Albany.
We could probably get more of a return dealing Gelinas but in the long run i think both Merrill and Gelinas will be better players than Larsson.