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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:09 PM ET
Jesus. Knowing that I can safely say the Blues gave up way too much in this deal.
- hereticpride


Well if they win the cup, they won't care.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 28 @ 9:09 PM ET
Yup, really good haul. And they might be flipping Stewart to Ottawa........Ottawa was rumored to want him.
- ob18


If they can flip Stewart and Halak, that will be a great haul for them. Blues gave up a lot.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
Well if they win the cup, they won't care.
- ob18

Yeah, theres that. But with the Hawks and Ducks they still are far from a shoe in.

Boy, they gave up a lot.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
If they can flip Stewart and Halak, that will be a great haul for them. Blues gave up a lot.
- PhillySportsGuy


Plenty of time to go before the deadline, they aren't done.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
Yeah, theres that. But with the Hawks and Ducks they still are far from a shoe in.

Boy, they gave up a lot.

- hereticpride


It's safe to say they went all in, personally I'd have kept the 2015 1st rounder.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:12 PM ET
Yeah, theres that. But with the Hawks and Ducks they still are far from a shoe in.

Boy, they gave up a lot.

- hereticpride


Its not that bad if they don't sign him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:12 PM ET
I like Ehrhoff. He'd be a nice addition.
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed. What I can't put my finger on though is what I'd be willing to give up.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
It's safe to say they went all in, personally I'd have kept the 2015 1st rounder.
- ob18


Stewart and Halak are free agents after this season, right?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:13 PM ET
Agreed. What I can't put my finger on though is what I'd be willing to give up.
- MJL


I'd give up a first or Laughton. Not both though.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
Stewart and Halak are free agents after this season, right?
- PhillySportsGuy



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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=capgeek
- ob18


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
I'd give up a first or Laughton. Not both though.
- PhillySportsGuy


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
Agreed. What I can't put my finger on though is what I'd be willing to give up.
- MJL

Same. They're going to want a young forward and probably a pick.

I'd do one of BSchenn, Laughton or Read and a pick. Not a 1st rounder if it's BSchenn. That's probably fair.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
I'd give up a first or Laughton. Not both though.
- PhillySportsGuy


I would lean towards no on both.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Feb 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
Its not that bad if they don't sign him.
- PhillySportsGuy

They're still giving up the 2015 1st regardless, and if they reach the Western Conference Finals they give up the 2014 whether they sign him or not. Ouch.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:17 PM ET

- ob18


I like Laughton a lot, but Ehrhoff would be a very good addition. I know you don't like to hear that.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
I would lean towards no on both.
- MJL


Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
I like Laughton a lot, but Ehrhoff would be a very good addition. I know you don't like to hear that.
- PhillySportsGuy


Laughton will be expendable when we get a 12-14th round 1 pick and get another center.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
They're still giving up the 2015 1st regardless, and if they reach the Western Conference Finals they give up the 2014 whether they sign him or not. Ouch.
- hereticpride


You're right. If they lose in the western finals or stanley cup, they will feel obligated to sign him.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:19 PM ET
I like Laughton a lot, but Ehrhoff would be a very good addition. I know you don't like to hear that.
- PhillySportsGuy


Don't think I could make that move.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:19 PM ET
Laughton will be expendable when we get a 12-14th round 1 pick and get another center.
- Flyersgod


Jared McCann
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:20 PM ET
Don't think I could make that move.
- ob18


What would you give up for Ehrhoff?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:20 PM ET
Laughton will be expendable when we get a 12-14th round 1 pick and get another center.
- Flyersgod


There is no such thing as getting another first round pick making a top asset expendable.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
Jared McCann
- PhillySportsGuy


Too close to 'John McCain'. I'd rather bleed out of my backside than trigger a memory of that guy.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Feb 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
What would you give up for Ehrhoff?
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't know, if Erhoff going to fix everything on the back end? If so I'd have to consider it more than I am now.
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