I think the sheltering as gone long enough. They need to promote him to center, give him more icetime, and make that idiot Eller warm the bench.

Also, kind of felt bad for Brière (I know, I'm surprised too). 2 goals, 1 assist with limited icetime...I would have given him some time on OT too. Give him some rope, see if he hangs himself with it, or does something good.
- stinger67

It's all about giving icetime to veterans and the DD line.

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.

I'm slowly getting tired of some of Therrien's decisions.

I know Subban dropped the puck and made a bonehead play, but he's still your best goddamn player. You don't have to bench him everytime he tries something and fails.

How is Galchenyuk supposed to take giant steps forward if he's not put in situations where he'll learn? I'm fine with slowly moving him up the lineup but ffs, not even a shift in overtime? 2 games in a row?

And I'm not a fan of Brière, hell I (frank)ing hate his guts, but when the guy gives you two goals and an assist during the game, you'd expect to see him play a little when the game is on the line no? Isn't it why he was hired in the first place? To score clutch goals when we needed it?

And i'm done.
- Scabeh

i think that Subban, in his 4th year, having won a Norris, and rarely making errors based on laziness like the one last night (they're usually mental errors or over-aggressiveness) has earned the opportunity to redeem himself after he makes those errors. he's not 21 anymore. and this team's dearth of skill means it doesn't have the luxury to play hard ball with guys like Subban and AGal. why is Subban subject to such tough love, yet Lars (frank)ing Eller, 4 points in 31 games, takes a penalty that leads to the 5-4 goal then gets 2 shifts in OT?

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.
- Symba007

He is, he's not a bad coach overall.

But there are certain things he does, some about what could be considered the most important assets of the team, that I think could be handled differently/better.

This being said, I realize it's easier said than done.

i think that Subban, in his 4th year, having won a Norris, and rarely making errors based on laziness like the one last night (they're usually mental errors or over-aggressiveness) has earned the opportunity to redeem himself after he makes those errors. he's not 21 anymore. and this team's dearth of skill means it doesn't have the luxury to play hard ball with guys like Subban and AGal. why is Subban subject to such tough love, yet Lars (frank)ing Eller, 4 points in 31 games, takes a penalty that leads to the 5-4 goal then gets 2 shifts in OT?
- DoubleDown

Exactly.

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.
- Symba007

Dallas Eakinsing it up.

He is, he's not a bad coach overall.

But there are certain things he does, some about what could be considered the most important assets of the team, that I think could be handled differently/better.

This being said, I realize it's easier said than done.
- Scabeh

i think that's a good way of putting it.

He is, he's not a bad coach overall.

But there are certain things he does, some about what could be considered the most important assets of the team, that I think could be handled differently/better.

This being said, I realize it's easier said than done.
- Scabeh

i think that's a good way of putting it.

I'M PUTTING THINGS IN A GOOD WAY!

I'm slowly getting tired of some of Therrien's decisions.

I know Subban dropped the puck and made a bonehead play, but he's still your best goddamn player. You don't have to bench him everytime he tries something and fails.

How is Galchenyuk supposed to take giant steps forward if he's not put in situations where he'll learn? I'm fine with slowly moving him up the lineup but ffs, not even a shift in overtime? 2 games in a row?

And I'm not a fan of Brière, hell I (frank)ing hate his guts, but when the guy gives you two goals and an assist during the game, you'd expect to see him play a little when the game is on the line no? Isn't it why he was hired in the first place? To score clutch goals when we needed it?

And i'm done.
- Scabeh

I'm all about accepting that Subban will make mistakes, but it must at least look like he's learning from them. That turnover yesterday was horrible, just a blatant selfish move, cleary was trying to show off to that crowd who was booing him, while his teammates were waiting for him at the blueline.

I'm slowly getting tired of some of Therrien's decisions.

I know Subban dropped the puck and made a bonehead play, but he's still your best goddamn player. You don't have to bench him everytime he tries something and fails.

How is Galchenyuk supposed to take giant steps forward if he's not put in situations where he'll learn? I'm fine with slowly moving him up the lineup but ffs, not even a shift in overtime? 2 games in a row?

And I'm not a fan of Brière, hell I (frank)ing hate his guts, but when the guy gives you two goals and an assist during the game, you'd expect to see him play a little when the game is on the line no? Isn't it why he was hired in the first place? To score clutch goals when we needed it?

And i'm done.
- Scabeh

Not last night he wasn't. As for Briere the answer is no you don't want to see him 4-4 vs Crosby and Malkin

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.
- Symba007

exactly, that's why I'm not on the "fire Therrien" bandwagon. I think the whole coaching staff is doing a good job.

I'm all about accepting that Subban will make mistakes, but it must at least look like he's learning from them. That turnover yesterday was horrible, just a blatant selfish move, cleary was trying to show off to that crowd who was booing him, while his teammates were waiting for him at the blueline.
- stinger67

it's not the mistake that got him benched, it's the selfishness. PK will learn...just got to remind him from time to time

I'm all about accepting that Subban will make mistakes, but it must at least look like he's learning from them. That turnover yesterday was horrible, just a blatant selfish move, cleary was trying to show off to that crowd who was booing him, while his teammates were waiting for him at the blueline.
- stinger67

That play deserved a benching IMO. To MT's credit, he put him out for the PP. But seeing Murray and Gorges paired together in OT was a touch scary.

i think that Subban, in his 4th year, having won a Norris, and rarely making errors based on laziness like the one last night (they're usually mental errors or over-aggressiveness) has earned the opportunity to redeem himself after he makes those errors. he's not 21 anymore. and this team's dearth of skill means it doesn't have the luxury to play hard ball with guys like Subban and AGal. why is Subban subject to such tough love, yet Lars (frank)ing Eller, 4 points in 31 games, takes a penalty that leads to the 5-4 goal then gets 2 shifts in OT?
- DoubleDown

Because he won some face offs

exactly, that's why I'm not on the "fire Therrien" bandwagon. I think the whole coaching staff is doing a good job.
- stinger67

I thought he should've pulled Budaj after the first for obvious reasons. Guess he made the right call there.

I thought he should've pulled Budaj after the first for obvious reasons. Guess he made the right call there.
- hscesq

It would be interesting to see what Tokarski has at this stage

It would be interesting to see what Tokarski has at this stage
- Pie

Bench sores on his ass, I would guess.

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.
- Symba007

All Price, watch the damn games

It would be interesting to see what Tokarski has at this stage
- Pie

You'll certainly have this opportunity, as Price will be out for the remaining of the season.

Bench sores on his ass, I would guess.
- hscesq

oh

You'll certainly have this opportunity, as Price will be out for the remaining of the season.
- _nay_

great

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.
- Symba007

Again with a so-so lineup.

i think that Subban, in his 4th year, having won a Norris, and rarely making errors based on laziness like the one last night (they're usually mental errors or over-aggressiveness) has earned the opportunity to redeem himself after he makes those errors. he's not 21 anymore. and this team's dearth of skill means it doesn't have the luxury to play hard ball with guys like Subban and AGal. why is Subban subject to such tough love, yet Lars (frank)ing Eller, 4 points in 31 games, takes a penalty that leads to the 5-4 goal then gets 2 shifts in OT?
- DoubleDown

because Therrien is a separatist racist ?

Habs are 3rd in the conference, Therrien must be doing "something" right.
- Symba007

We have an average coach with an average roster...only the ghosts of former habs great have allowed the habs to be a bit higher than average in the standings.