I don't remember them playing together regularly in Philly. I remember them both playing center on the top two lines, so I doubt that has too much to do with it. His play has looked off lately, but I think he'll bounce back.
- PancakesPenner

No that they have a deep history of playing together, per se, but when Carts came over, they did play together and seemed to go well together. There was at least a comfort factor between the two that seemed to energize MR's play, and all I'm saying is that even that isn't there for him right now. IMO it's more important that he get jump started over, say, Brown. I thought that it was brilliant when King and Nolan were called up and put with MR. It seemed to spark him, to be able to almost mentor those two, seemed to give him a spark. We need to find a way to spark him right now.

How do you figure. He has worn an A for at least half the season. Its obvious when Greene leaves he's getting that letter. They weren't reunited for some shifts last night they played the entire game on the same line with Pearson.

I respect the opinion of any fan no disrespect but I just don't agree with the pessimism you seem to have on Richards, Doughty and Brown.
- QuicksEnnormous

I'm all for agreeing to disagree... and you might be right about them playing together last night, but that hasn't been the case the last few games.

Regardless, he needs to snap out of his funk if the Kings have any designs on making the playoffs, let alone getting out of the first round.

And my feelings about Brown have been this way for some time. Do me a favor and really WATCH each and every time he touches the puck. Count the turnovers and shots not on net, then look at the boxscore to see how many shifts he had. Then you'll realize my frustrations with our captain.

And my feelings about Brown have been this way for some time. Do my a favor and really WATCH each and every time he touches the puck. Count the turnovers and shots not on net, then look at the boxscore to see how many shifts he had. Then you'll realize my frustrations with our captain.

I have season tickets. I watch Brown every game. I will not make excuses for him he has not been the difference maker I come to expect him to be. I also know we don't have a banner hanging in the rafters without him. That is what we know him to be capable of. I can't think of a power forward that has been consistent that plays DB role. I just have faith that when things get tough or Brown is backed into a corner he will show up.

I'm all for agreeing to disagree... and you might be right about them playing together last night, but that hasn't been the case the last few games.

Regardless, he needs to snap out of his funk if the Kings have any designs on making the playoffs, let alone getting out of the first round.

And my feelings about Brown have been this way for some time. Do me a favor and really WATCH each and every time he touches the puck. Count the turnovers and shots not on net, then look at the boxscore to see how many shifts he had. Then you'll realize my frustrations with our captain.
- Stu17

I agree, the first shift of the game he turned it over two times. One time right on the blue line and didn't get the puck out of the zone. I think it was in the second period when he did some stupid move when he was by himself going against two defensemen and then turned it over again. He picks bad times to do moves that he shouldn't be doing. I thought he made a nice pass though for that goal after he missed the net on his breakaway.

I have season tickets. I watch Brown every game. I will not make excuses for him he has not been the difference maker I come to expect him to be. I also know we don't have a banner hanging in the rafters without him. That is what we know him to be capable of. I can't think of a power forward that has been consistent that plays DB role. I just have faith that when things get tough or Brown is backed into a corner he will show up.
- QuicksEnnormous

That's cool you have season tix, but 2012 was 2012, not today or this homestretch run. 2012 16-4 run was beyond magical, but in the now, he's a turnover machine that kills whatever momentum his line has going. Maybe his style of play has caught up with him, maybe he needs to adjust his game to fit his physical capabilities, because as you said, it's hard to consistantly play that brand of physical game year in year out. Backes is pretty comparable, but he too will start to feel the aches and pains after a few more seasons, I'm sure.

I'm not a man of faith, I prefer results. And we'll both see where we end up. Nice chat man, I enjoyed it.

GO KINGS GO!!

When I see Doughty playing for the Olympics I see heart. When I see Doughty in a Kings sweater, not so much. He's content to rag the puck up slowly on the PP like it was 5 minute endeavor and not a 2. I actually think there was a wrist shot siting, but only one. And Brown??? If I had a nickel, no, not even a nickel, a HALF PENNY for everytime he put a shot wide/high, I'd quit my day job. I'll give him that pass he got off to Stoll (a tape-to-tape pass by DB is as rare a sighting as sasquatch) but otherwise, the man has done nothing and looks content to continue to do nothing.

And as far as MR goes, one entry into the zone does not make a good night for a forward who just 2-3 seasons ago was considered a heart&soul guy that can do it all... He's slow as molassasses dripping on a cold winters day, his passes end up in more turnovers than completions, his backhand is non-existant, and worst of all, I think he's just depressed about not being "the man" like he was in Philly. Here in LA he's just a center/winger, not a 1st line mainstay.

And Re Cliffy, why go to youtube to look up 2 seasons worth of forecheck in a couple of PO series? Just look at his game, day in day out. He's one fight away from serious concussion issues, he's loathe to pass the puck anytime he gets it on his stick, he's basically DB lite. We can't be content to keep a guy because of his forecheck in the postseason. We have enough forecheck grinders (Stoll, King (who is suprisingly good at the forecheck considering his foot speed), Lewis, Toffoli, Nolan, and the list goes on and on), we need some 2-4 line contribution on the score sheet.
- Stu17

I'll be honest, I have a hard time thinking your evaluations on players are all that spot on when you say Toffoli is a forecheck grinder and not a top 6 goal scorer.

I'll be honest, I have a hard time thinking your evaluations on players are all that spot on when you say Toffoli is a forecheck grinder and not a top 6 goal scorer.
- bluecoconuts[/q]
it doesn't matter what I think anyway... but when I was putting his name in there I was thinking more about the forecheck element than the grinder. But his name can be omitted from that list and we'd still have plenty of forecheck grinders.

I have found out what Richards problem is with passing and shooting, its real tough to make plays with a purse on your arm,





maybe if he stopped playing like a vaj and man'd up a bit he would not be standing out as "the problem" with the offense

Nice win again tonight. Quickie was sensational and nice to see Regehr get some love in Calgary. He led all Kings in TOI at 24 mins a full minute more than DD.

Only one game but ironic after our discussion today that Brown stepped up with a goal and an assist to lead the team. Down side it was his first multi-point game since October.

TFP reporting Kings were at one point involved in a big Amac and Vanek trade... would have to involve someone with salary like Williams which would be terrible. I love Mr. Game 7...

I would rather stay away from Vanek because of the price plus UFA and him being close with pominville and parise.

Wouldn't mind seeing Grabner, Backlund, or Hudler on LW. Defense Ehrhof would look nice next to DD.

TFP reporting Kings were at one point involved in a big Amac and Vanek trade... would have to involve someone with salary like Williams which would be terrible. I love Mr. Game 7...

I would rather stay away from Vanek because of the price plus UFA and him being close with pominville and parise.

Wouldn't mind seeing Grabner, Backlund, or Hudler on LW. Defense Ehrhof would look nice next to DD.
- QuicksEnnormous

The only way I would want Vanek would be a sign and trade but pretty much everyone knows he's either going to the Wild or will wait to see who is willing to pay him 8 million per which won't be the Kings.

I would love to get Hudler and Girardi but i'm afraid the cost of both of those guys would be too steep. Calgary would probably be good with a pick or two and prospects, but the Rangers would want a core roster player that we just can't give up.

The guy on our team that worries me is Pearson. It's obvious that he has the talent but I really hope he's not another Moulson/Purcell that can't produce within our system but thrives elsewhere.

Then we have poor Matt Frattin. I think he's a good player and will possibly be a top 6 guy but not in the Kings system. I think Lombardi will try to deal him but what do we get for a guy who has done nothing this season yet was a very good prospect in Toronto?

The only way I would want Vanek would be a sign and trade but pretty much everyone knows he's either going to the Wild or will wait to see who is willing to pay him 8 million per which won't be the Kings.

I would love to get Hudler and Girardi but i'm afraid the cost of both of those guys would be too steep. Calgary would probably be good with a pick or two and prospects, but the Rangers would want a core roster player that we just can't give up.

The guy on our team that worries me is Pearson. It's obvious that he has the talent but I really hope he's not another Moulson/Purcell that can't produce within our system but thrives elsewhere.

Then we have poor Matt Frattin. I think he's a good player and will possibly be a top 6 guy but not in the Kings system. I think Lombardi will try to deal him but what do we get for a guy who has done nothing this season yet was a very good prospect in Toronto?
- Anjin

I think his situation is similar to Stoll's from a couple seasons ago. Stoll could be a second liner on a couple young rebuilding teams, but was willing to be shifted down to third line C and faceoff specialist. If Frattin is willing to do something similar, resign knowing he'll never really crack the top 6 as is, use his speed on the third line forecheck, and sign a deal in line with his role, I'd be all for keeping him. Then if his play picks up and he could be of value to another team's top 6, Lombardi could see about what he could get for him.

Well I wasn't happy to see the Kings rake in the goals. That's all they need to realize they can score.

Muzzin looks like he will be a really good dman. But when they are young they prone to mistakes.

One knock I have seen with the Kings is team speed. Usually they cut the ice into three segments slowing down the game and it seems like normally there is not much space around the net. But if you can turn a weakness into a strength and you have more than enough talent you can get by.

Sutter is a great coach but you can tell by his record his teams play to one goal games and that can hurt against teams like Chicago who can score. But with Quick at his best you are always one goal away from a win.

Nice win again tonight. Quickie was sensational and nice to see Regehr get some love in Calgary. He led all Kings in TOI at 24 mins a full minute more than DD.

Only one game but ironic after our discussion today that Brown stepped up with a goal and an assist to lead the team. Down side it was his first multi-point game since October.

TFP reporting Kings were at one point involved in a big Amac and Vanek trade... would have to involve someone with salary like Williams which would be terrible. I love Mr. Game 7...

I would rather stay away from Vanek because of the price plus UFA and him being close with pominville and parise.

Wouldn't mind seeing Grabner, Backlund, or Hudler on LW. Defense Ehrhof would look nice next to DD.
- QuicksEnnormous

Hey man, just stopped in to say brown played his best game of the year. He actually looked to make a pass on that assist rather than have it accidentally get blocked to his linemate. I hope for our sake it was his wake up call. Gkg