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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
All of them have the same schtick and they just got old to me.

Honestly it must be hard jamming on the same stuff day after day but I think the program director needs to be more creative.

- sambarugh


Some of these drafts they have are bordering on moronic.


hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
too much IMO

besides Miller does not gurantee a cup. a few years ago i would have agreed, but not now.

- spencerelliott


Which part is too much?
Id think your saying the future with Allen, cause I thought Stewart was in the dog house recently and a 1st rd pick isnt that great when its 27 +

or hes just not worth 3 peices
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
I don't think that's a small price. Ryan Miller DOES NOT guarantee that they win the cup
- druryisclutch




Well sure. Nothing is gaurnteed in this world except death & taxes.


Somebody could always get injured.


And of course the "asking price" & "final price" often vary...



But if St Louis can claim Miller by the deadline, they'll have their strongest roster in franchise history.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
too much IMO

besides Miller does not gurantee a cup. a few years ago i would have agreed, but not now.

- spencerelliott


You obviously haven't watched many Sabres games this year.

He's also extra motivated to prove to everyone he should have gotten more playing time in Sochi.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
Yes dear
- druryisclutch


Don't be condescending. It's not appreciated.
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St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
But to call that a small price to pay is a little much. That's a pretty big, steep price to pay, especially since he could walk after the season anyway.
- druryisclutch


Yeah that is too steep, allen will be the starter either next year or the year after, im fine with the 1st and stewart tho, possibly a mid range prospect as well
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:36 PM ET
Well sure. Nothing is gaurnteed in this world except death & taxes.


Somebody could always get injured.


And of course the "asking price" & "final price" often vary...



But if St Louis can claim Miller by the deadline, they'll have their strongest roster in franchise history.

- SuperCat


No question about it, but the risk reward of giving up Allen + a roster player + a 1st is not a small price to me, and I'm sure not to Blues fans either.
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
too much IMO

besides Miller does not gurantee a cup. a few years ago i would have agreed, but not now.

- spencerelliott



You're just seeing him on a terrible team with no offense and unproven defense.

The Blues roster is just the opposite.



Swing that deal and you don't have to give up any significant pieces for your run.

You'll be looking at the best Blues roster in their history.
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
im sorry my offer was such an insult.

it was honestly about what i think the blues should give. ok maybe the 2nd/3rd rounder was a little weak, but Halak and a 1st would be the max.

Rattie isnt going anywhere.

- spencerelliott


the market is what the market is. im guessing that if murrays price had been met, miller would being wearing another jersey by now. having said that, there are at least a couple other teams that are gonna throw their hat in the ring. the offer of halak and a first is extremely underwhelming. st louis certainly doesnt need 3 goalies, and im guessing that moving halak is necessary for the trade to make any sense for them. buffalo would be acquiring a pending ufa to play net for a few weeks, and its probably not a stretch to think they dont wanna win all of the remaining games. the pick is essentially an early second rounder. so if any other team wants to throw a first and/or a good prospect into the mix, it trumps st louis offer. yes, the market is softer than we'd like it to be, but having multiple teams involved should make it respectable. st louis has looked very good the few times that ive seen them play, if im st louis GM, im willing to part with a few other pieces and take a run at both miller and moulson. the blues are a legit cup contender, not some paper tiger racing for 8th, go get the players to finish the job.
spencerelliott
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
JVince why bother? I've spoken to other blues fans that are more realistic about their team. The guy was looking to get a rise out of someone and he succeed. Same as professional pot stirrer. At least Ryno makes his intentions known right away.

If St Louis stands pat with their current goaltending situation they are looking at another 2nd round exit maybe even a 1st round exit. Only delusional fans think otherwise. That being said I don't expect to get a top prospect out of St Louis, which is why I think Miller gets moved elsewhere.

- Stripes77


you can believe what you want. i was NOT here to stir the pot.
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:38 PM ET
Don't be condescending. It's not appreciated.
- HonkFortheGoose


Telling me to stop posting is not appreciated.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Yeah that is too steep, allen will be the starter either next year or the year after, im fine with the 1st and stewart tho, possibly a mid range prospect as well
- .....

I would be fine with Halak and 2014 first and 2015 first . Buffalo retains half of Millers salary to make numbers work. The picks will be low round picks anyways. This way St Louis keeps all its prospects and team chemistry is not disturbed.
spencerelliott
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
the market is what the market is. im guessing that if murrays price had been met, miller would being wearing another jersey by now. having said that, there are at least a couple other teams that are gonna throw their hat in the ring. the offer of halak and a first is extremely underwhelming. st louis certainly doesnt need 3 goalies, and im guessing that moving halak is necessary for the trade to make any sense for them. buffalo would be acquiring a pending ufa to play net for a few weeks, and its probably not a stretch to think they dont wanna win all of the remaining games. the pick is essentially an early second rounder. so if any other team wants to throw a first and/or a good prospect into the mix, it trumps st louis offer. yes, the market is softer than we'd like it to be, but having multiple teams involved should make it respectable. st louis has looked very good the few times that ive seen them play, if im st louis GM, im willing to part with a few other pieces and take a run at both miller and moulson. the blues are a legit cup contender, not some paper tiger racing for 8th, go get the players to finish the job.
- rover16


thank you for a real reply. this is why i came here. it will be interesting to see what happens.
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
Yeah that is too steep, allen will be the starter either next year or the year after, im fine with the 1st and stewart tho, possibly a mid range prospect as well
- .....



I'd take Allen and Stewart for Miller.



And honestly, if you have up that to get him, I bet he'd feel that he had a debt to the city to stay and win a Cup. That's the kinda guy he is.
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Feb 26 @ 4:41 PM ET
Telling me to stop posting is not appreciated.
- druryisclutch


Quit provoking people then and contribute to the discussion with well thought out intelligent comments. Not juvenile jabs.


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
you can believe what you want. i was NOT here to stir the pot.
- spencerelliott


Then you're completely irrational and illogical which stirs the pot anyway so I stand by my original statement
spencerelliott
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
You're just seeing him on a terrible team with no offense and unproven defense.

The Blues roster is just the opposite.



Swing that deal and you don't have to give up any significant pieces for your run.

You'll be looking at the best Blues roster in their history.

- SuperCat


maybe so. i have center ice and watch lots of hockey. inlcuding Sabres games. i know how good Miller is. and i know what he COULD get in return if he wasnt going to be a UFA this offseason. however thats not the case.



spencerelliott
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:42 PM ET
You're just seeing him on a terrible team with no offense and unproven defense.

The Blues roster is just the opposite.



Swing that deal and you don't have to give up any significant pieces for your run.

You'll be looking at the best Blues roster in their history.

- SuperCat


maybe so. i have center ice and watch lots of hockey. inlcuding Sabres games. i know how good Miller is. and i know what he COULD get in return if he wasnt going to be a UFA this offseason. however thats not the case.



spencerelliott
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:43 PM ET
Then you're completely irrational and illogical which stirs the pot anyway so I stand by my original statement
- Stripes77


yeah ok

keep riding that Miller scrote
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:44 PM ET
Quit provoking people then and contribute to the discussion with well thought out intelligent comments. Not juvenile jabs.



- Maximum Signal


I have contributed to the discussion with the Blues fan. Just because I agree with the Blues fan and JVince got all crazy about it, this is where we are at. I think some of the trade proposals he posts are idiotic, and contributed my opinion why. If he or you take that personally I can't help that.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
He started it
- druryisclutch


Really? That's your justification...
There's no reason we can't all be cordial with each other
And I didn't read back all the pages,
But I doubt he said something as disrespectful as u did about his relationship with his child
That's ridiculous
spencerelliott
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis
Joined: 07.10.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
You obviously haven't watched many Sabres games this year.

He's also extra motivated to prove to everyone he should have gotten more playing time in Sochi.

- HonkFortheGoose


ive watched some. and i agree Miller is very good, but starting him over Quick is just plain stupid.

Quick is the best goalie in the NHL right now IMO.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:45 PM ET
2 time winner of the William M. Jennings Trophy
Is currently 10th all-time in wins by an NHL goaltender
2 time All Star
Became only the 10th goaltender in NHL history to achieve 400 wins
4th all time NHL leader in win percentage
7th best Goals Against Average (career) of all time (2.49)
3 Cups
3 different teams in the playoffs

Pretty dam good to me

- hubie


Is this a trivia question?

Who is Darcy Wakaluk?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
Is this a trivia question?

Who is Darcy Wakaluk?

- Homer


Whats going on dude. I dont know if you read throught the dribble, but is there anythign you can put to rest?
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
Really? That's your justification...
There's no reason we can't all be cordial with each other
And I didn't read back all the pages,
But I doubt he said something as disrespectful as u did about his relationship with his child
That's ridiculous

- jdfitz77


He called me his son in one post and told me he'd put me up for adoption. Obviously nobody put two and two together. It was an attempt at a joke that got misinterpreted by a few of you. We can all move on now.
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