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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
Thats a ridiculous asking price. I wouldn't even give a 1st for Ott. I would give a 2nd and a conditional 2nd if he re-signed.
- PhillySportsGuy

gaustad getting a first (frank)ed everything
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:32 PM ET
gaustad getting a first (frank)ed everything
- stayinthefnnet


I know and it was from Nashville of all teams.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:33 PM ET
gaustad getting a first (frank)ed everything
- stayinthefnnet


and you cant even blame Darcy Regier cause you have to make the best deal for your club and Poile ponied up
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:34 PM ET
and you cant even blame Darcy Regier cause you have to make the best deal for your club and Poile ponied up
- nonpoint22

yup
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:38 PM ET
Yup
I'm pretty sure a 2nd rounder would land them Mez in a heartbeat.

- BiggE


It would for me, but if they made it a 4th or 5th plus say Joe Morrow that would do just fine as well.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:39 PM ET
It would for me, but if they made it a 4th or 5th plus say Joe Morrow that would do just fine as well.
- ob18


Yes. Yes it would
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:40 PM ET
Yes. Yes it would
- PhillySportsGuy


It's likely not something they'd be crazy enough to do but then again who knows how bad they want to make a deal.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:41 PM ET
It's likely not something they'd be crazy enough to do but then again who knows how bad they want to make a deal.
- ob18


Is it realistic to think Morrow is already better than Mez?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 6:43 PM ET
I agree on not overpaying. But a first rounder isnt going to get anyone significant now, and they shouldn't be thinking about trading B.Schenn or Couturier for a Yandle or Big Buff.

If those are the choices then yes... stand pat, but I think "hockey trades" can still be made.

- SchennBros


A first rounder alone won't get somebody significant, but it could be a big piece of a package. Rather do a package for a good defenseman than trade a first for MacDonald
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:43 PM ET
Is it realistic to think Morrow is already better than Mez?
- PhillySportsGuy


Yes it is...
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:44 PM ET
Is it realistic to think Morrow is already better than Mez?
- PhillySportsGuy

i liked what i saw in him before. but supposedly he has fallen. i dont know.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:45 PM ET
A first rounder alone won't get somebody significant, but it could be a big piece of a package. Rather do a package for a good defenseman than trade a first for MacDonald
- Jsaquella


i just dont think that "impact" defenseman is out there that I would be willing to give a significant package for....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 6:47 PM ET
i just dont think that "impact" defenseman is out there that I would be willing to give a significant package for....
- nonpoint22


Probably won't be at the TDL, but maybe at the draft...no sense in trading a 1st rounder now for a guy who isn't more than a 3rd or 4th defenseman
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:49 PM ET
Probably won't be at the TDL, but maybe at the draft...no sense in trading a 1st rounder now for a guy who isn't more than a 3rd or 4th defenseman
- Jsaquella


Weber is pretty much it....really not sold on giving a major package for Buff or Yandle...I think they are good players but not game changers that the Flyers need
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 26 @ 6:52 PM ET
Is it realistic to think Morrow is already better than Mez?
- PhillySportsGuy


Don't know haven't watched him in the AHL
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 6:53 PM ET
Weber is pretty much it....really not sold on giving a major package for Buff or Yandle...I think they are good players but not game changers that the Flyers need
- nonpoint22


Id give a decent package for Byfuglien or Yandle, Either of those guys would be significant upgrades, as would a guy like Erhoff.

A guy like Weber's gonna cost multiple first rounders, as well as player assets.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 26 @ 6:55 PM ET
the going rate for ott is a first and top prospect. this poop is so out of hand anymore.
- stayinthefnnet


I've been beating that drum for a long time now -- guys like Cliff Fletcher would never have made it in this league today.

You can barely make trades in this league anymore because everybody has to win a trade, nobody trades defensemen and everybody is scared every prospect they've got is actually the love child of Mario Lemieux and Wayne Gretzky, while every veteran has Mark Messier's leadership and Claude Lemieux's "clutchness"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 26 @ 6:56 PM ET
It would for me, but if they made it a 4th or 5th plus say Joe Morrow that would do just fine as well.
- ob18

nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 6:58 PM ET
Id give a decent package for Byfuglien or Yandle, Either of those guys would be significant upgrades, as would a guy like Erhoff.

A guy like Weber's gonna cost multiple first rounders, as well as player assets.

- Jsaquella


It depends the package that those guys would garnish. I agree they would be an upgrade I just think your gonna overpay to get them....What kinda package would you offer for them? Kinda Curious...

BTW great avatar....Loved Ramis...Caddyshack will always be my favorite movie of all time
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 26 @ 7:02 PM ET
I miss the NHL where guys like Theo Fleury got traded for basically a young Robyn Regehr and a pick, Joe Nieuwendyk got traded for a young prospect named Jarome Iginla, Joe Thornton got traded for Brad Stuart and Marco Sturm and somebody else...

Man. The NHL used to be a lot more fun than with that stuff than it is now
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 26 @ 7:02 PM ET
It depends the package that those guys would garnish. I agree they would be an upgrade I just think your gonna overpay to get them....What kinda package would you offer for them? Kinda Curious...

BTW great avatar....Loved Ramis...Caddyshack will always be my favorite movie of all time

- nonpoint22


I'd be willing to trade Bryaden Schenn in a package to get Edler or Yandle. A Weber would be great, not vital. However, there's a real need for a mobile guy, who can move the puck either with smart passing or by skating it out of danger.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
I miss the NHL where guys like Theo Fleury got traded for basically a young Robyn Regehr and a pick, Joe Nieuwendyk got traded for a young prospect named Jarome Iginla, Joe Thornton got traded for Brad Stuart and Marco Sturm and somebody else...

Man. The NHL used to be a lot more fun than with that stuff than it is now

- AllInForFlyers


How could you forget Wayne Primeau
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 26 @ 7:04 PM ET
I cannot believe freaking Buffalo is on again. They were on like 2 or 3 times in a row prior to olympics and now back to back nights.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 26 @ 7:04 PM ET
I'd be willing to trade Bryaden Schenn in a package to get Edler or Yandle. A Weber would be great, not vital. However, there's a real need for a mobile guy, who can move the puck either with smart passing or by skating it out of danger.
- Jsaquella


Is Edler even available?...If I recall, Phoenix reportedly wanted Coots for Yandle...what about Buff?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 26 @ 7:05 PM ET
How could you forget Wayne Primeau
- nonpoint22


HA! Was that the third guy? I couldn't remember!
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