Pull the knife away from your wrist. For god sakes let the balance of the season play out. Most signs suggest he's almost back to health.
- The Law

With a whopping 22 games left. Don't be so dramatic.

You really think this is a cut and dry easy decision with what to do with him?

You really think these guys, and their agents, care about their "hometown team"?

Newsflash: They don't.
- Pecafan Fan

Agents, probably not, but they do care about their clients' happiness or they'll lose their clients. Players, some might, others might not. To paint them all with the same brush is ridiculous.

You really think these guys, and their agents, care about their "hometown team"?

Newsflash: They don't.
- Pecafan Fan

Yes, yes I do. They're even talking about it on Sportsnet.

edit* maybe not all. Bolland yes.

Yes, yes I do. They're even talking about it on Sportsnet.
- CanadianBodmon

Tell me about the pay cut Clarkson took in order to play for his hometown team.

Tell me about the pay cut Clarkson took in order to play for his hometown team.
- Pecafan Fan

He's still overpaid. But there were other teams offering more.

Leafs were willing to pay him that knowing what others were.

So yes.

You really think these guys, and their agents, care about their "hometown team"?

Newsflash: They don't.
- Pecafan Fan

that's a load of poop.

if you're under the impression the opportunity to play for their hometown team doesn't factor into the decision making of some players unrestricted free agency contract decisions, you're clueless. destination counts more than money to a lot of players, and playing at home can absolutely be a factor.

that's a load of poop.

if you're under the impression the opportunity to play for their hometown team doesn't factor into the decision making of some players unrestricted free agency contract decisions, you're clueless. destination counts more than money to a lot of players, and playing at home can absolutely be a factor.
- joel878

Add to this endorsement opportunities. Especially in the GTA.

he allegedly wants 40 mil + over 7-8 years. but that's if you're to give anything kypreos has to say any credit whatsoever.

if bolland is trying to bend his hometown team over a barrel like that he can GTFO.
- joel878

It's negotiations. If you want 5-6 years at 4 or 4.5 then when the team says submit a proposal you start with 7-8 at 5 per year. Nonis, if he makes a proposal at all will low ball him too. The middle ground is probably something close to Bozak's deal.

At the end of the day if he wants to be a Leaf AND if the Leafs want him to be a Leaf he probably ends up with a very Bozakian contract.

Tell me about the pay cut Clarkson took in order to play for his hometown team.
- Pecafan Fan

if you believe what was reported, about 1.5 mil a season less than was offered by Edmonton.

nice to see you have the slightest clue what you're talking about though.

He's still overpaid. But there were other teams offering more.

Leafs were willing to pay him that knowing what others were.

So yes.
- CanadianBodmon

So you're saying, his agent used other teams in order to max out Clarkson's contract?


Talk about taking a pay cut in order to play for your "hometown team"!

that's a load of poop.

if you're under the impression the opportunity to play for their hometown team doesn't factor into the decision making of some players unrestricted free agency contract decisions, you're clueless. destination counts more than money to a lot of players, and playing at home can absolutely be a factor.
- joel878

Just ask Bozak

Leafs said go look at open market. I'm sure some teams we're offering him the same or more given their needed situation and lots of money to spend. He came running home to be with his bff.

So you're saying, his agent used other teams in order to max out Clarkson's contract?


Talk about taking a pay cut in order to play for your "hometown team"!
- Pecafan Fan

No I'm saying, others team offered him more. Used that to get the most from toronto, but thats not to say he wasn't going to get more somewhere else.

He did take a pay cut. Whether we like it or not.

With a whopping 22 games left. Don't be so dramatic.

You really think this is a cut and dry easy decision with what to do with him?
- markmark

Yes. For two very very good reasons.
1. The Leafs are in a playoff position; (they want him)
2. Bolland isn't healthy. (other teams don't want him)

No I'm saying, others team offered him more. Used that to get the most from toronto, but thats not to say he wasn't going to get more somewhere else.

He did take a pay cut. Whether we like it or not.
- CanadianBodmon

Ok, he did.

It's negotiations. If you want 5-6 years at 4 or 4.5 then when the team says submit a proposal you start with 7-8 at 5 per year. Nonis, if he makes a proposal at all will low ball him too. The middle ground is probably something close to Bozak's deal.

At the end of the day if he wants to be a Leaf AND if the Leafs want him to be a Leaf he probably ends up with a very Bozakian contract.
- The Law

fair enough. I remember the exact same thing rumoured about bozak.

bozak did hit free agency though, i'm not sure i'd rather that again.

No I'm saying, others team offered him more. Used that to get the most from toronto, but thats not to say he wasn't going to get more somewhere else.

He did take a pay cut. Whether we like it or not.
- CanadianBodmon

The Leafs must be so glad he did.

Tell me about the pay cut Clarkson took in order to play for his hometown team.
- Pecafan Fan

Here's the truth about 'discounts'. They almost exclusively involve:

1. Players re-upping with their own team; and/or
2. Veterans, long in the tooth.

*Its list day.

Lets hope this isn't true then:





SEEEEE YA.
- markmark

not so fast.. 5 million in 7 years will be like 2.5-3million today

remember,..over the course of the contract salaries will continue to go up

not so fast.. 5 million in 7 years will be like 2.5-3million today

remember,..over the course of the contract salaries will continue to go up
- Dozzer

Not with the Canadian dollar plunging like it is right now.

No I'm saying, others team offered him more. Used that to get the most from toronto, but thats not to say he wasn't going to get more somewhere else.

He did take a pay cut. Whether we like it or not.
- CanadianBodmon

no he didnt. toronto had to outbid i believe ottawa for his services.

a player isnt going to toss away 1 to 2 million dollars just to play for his fav team.. thats a fairytale

not so fast.. 5 million in 7 years will be like 2.5-3million today

remember,..over the course of the contract salaries will continue to go up
- Dozzer

I think this is a very risky way of managing.... "I'm ok giving more because in a couple of years, if the league keeps increasing revenues, it'll be fine."

no he didnt. toronto had to outbid i believe ottawa for his services.

a player isnt going to toss away 1 to 2 million dollars just to play for his fav team.. thats a fairytale
- Dozzer

Agreed.

Not with the Canadian dollar plunging like it is right now.
- Pecafan Fan

wait til that pipeline comes in

it will go right back up

also.. its not so much that its plunging as the US is artificially propping theirs up.. combo of both really.

fair enough. I remember the exact same thing rumoured about bozak.

bozak did hit free agency though, i'm not sure i'd rather that again.
- joel878

Exactly. Bozak may have had a few more reasons to pass on the market.
#Kessellove

not so fast.. 5 million in 7 years will be like 2.5-3million today

remember,..over the course of the contract salaries will continue to go up
- Dozzer

Dozzer please explain that pay cut doesn't equal getting underpaid/still overpaid.

The frenchies don't seem to understand this concept. Must still be bitter about Gomez.

Yes, clarksons been poop and is getting paid right now more than what he brings. That's not the point.