bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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That's inaccurate. - hscesq
I don't think it is. |
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number_23
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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If he can't fetch a good return just keep him...but I think they should seriously listen to offers. - BashCH
I think they are...I think everybody always is listening to offers...why would someone not listen?
You're not cut out for a GM job...you should stick to event planning.
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hscesq
Referee Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY Joined: 06.26.2007
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You go on your whole season telling the players "let's make the playoffs, you never know what can happen once you're in."
Trading a guy like Markov now would send the message to the players that you have quit on the season as a GM and that they should do the same. That's how I would see it as a player. - stinger67
I hear what you're saying. However, they do have young parts that re ready to step in. If Davis Drewiske steps in, then it's worthless. If NB and JT step in and gain valuable experience, then in the end it could be well worth it. |
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hscesq
Referee Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY Joined: 06.26.2007
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I don't think it is. - bixll
Excellent news. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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I think they are...I think everybody always is listening to offers...why would someone not listen?
You're not cut out for a GM job...you should stick to event planning. - number_23
And you should stick to being an idiot. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Excellent news. - hscesq
Glad you think so. |
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number_23
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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You go on your whole season telling the players "let's make the playoffs, you never know what can happen once you're in."
Trading a guy like Markov now would send the message to the players that you have quit on the season as a GM and that they should do the same. That's how I would see it as a player. - stinger67
Imagine, you're a rookie/young kid who looks up to Markov as the most tenured hab, and they go and trade him away...it just sends a message that they are all chess pieces and it's a business...
Although it is...that's not the message you want to send...not at this time. Had they done this last year, I'd be all for it (and as I said earlier, living and dying with the kids)...but doing it now would just reek of desperation...and almost an admission that the team is not as good as it's current record... |
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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: QC Joined: 07.03.2008
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Nice way of thinking of you want the team to stay as good as the last 20 years. - BashCH
Damn if you do, damn if you don't. Believe me, as a fan, I'd get rid of plenty of players on that team. I don't mind, and I above all surely ain't looking forward to getting trounced out of the playoffs again in the first round.
The GM's job is to make the playoffs if he's in a good position at the deadline. That's what Molson is paying him for.
I just don't see Bergevin being a seller at the deadline. |
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number_23
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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And you should stick to being an idiot. - BashCH
Hey look! in the sky over there!!!
*stabs BashCH in the back* |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Imagine, you're a rookie/young kid who looks up to Markov as the most tenured hab, and they go and trade him away...it just sends a message that they are all chess pieces and it's a business...
Although it is...that's not the message you want to send...not at this time. Had they done this last year, I'd be all for it (and as I said earlier, living and dying with the kids)...but doing it now would just reek of desperation...and almost an admission that the team is not as good as it's current record... - number_23
Right, they also should've kept Craig Rivet in 2007...you know, what kind of message did that send to the group? Must've been devastated... |
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Iggysbff
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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Imagine, you're a rookie/young kid who looks up to Markov as the most tenured hab, and they go and trade him away...it just sends a message that they are all chess pieces and it's a business...
Although it is...that's not the message you want to send...not at this time. Had they done this last year, I'd be all for it (and as I said earlier, living and dying with the kids)...but doing it now would just reek of desperation...and almost an admission that the team is not as good as it's current record... - number_23
That is all they are. And there is clearly very little to no loyalty from players either. They will go anywhere that pays them the most.
This is nothing new. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Damn if you do, damn if you don't. Believe me, as a fan, I'd get rid of plenty of players on that team. I don't mind, and I above all surely ain't looking forward to getting trounced out of the playoffs again in the first round.
The GM's job is to make the playoffs if he's in a good position at the deadline. That's what Molson is paying him for.
I just don't see Bergevin being a seller at the deadline. - stinger67
SJ were "sellers" last year and still made it to the WCF...and they improved their future. |
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number_23
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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Right, they also should've kept Craig Rivet in 2007...you know, what kind of message did that send to the group? Must've been devastated... - BashCH
There's a big difference there...Rivet was a useless tool who's time in MTL was done.
getting rid of guys like Bouillon, Moen, Murray...that's one thing...Getting rid of a guy like Markov, that would be totally different IMO.
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Habs Talk
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Might even get 4-5 on the market. You know, there are dumb teams....like Philadelphia. - BashCH
not might... |
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BashCH
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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That is all they are. And there is clearly very little to no loyalty from players either. They will go anywhere that pays them the most.
This is nothing new. - Iggysbff
Don't trade a guy because you don't want to offend anyone and then lose him to free agency. Good job. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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There's a big difference there...Rivet was a useless tool who's time in MTL was done.
getting rid of guys like Bouillon, Moen, Murray...that's one thing...Getting rid of a guy like Markov, that would be totally different IMO. - number_23
He was Koivu's friend...what message did that send to him ? Poor guy! |
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number_23
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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That is all they are. And there is clearly very little to no loyalty from players either. They will go anywhere that pays them the most.
This is nothing new. - Iggysbff
You are right...but they don't need to be reminded a few days before they head to a battle...
I don't think the habs can afford to trade Markov and still hope to make the playoffs and keep a straight face and tell the guys they expect to win. Trading him in the off-season or at the beginning of the year, there's still time to forge a new identity...but now?
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Habs Talk
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Right, they also should've kept Craig Rivet in 2007...you know, what kind of message did that send to the group? Must've been devastated... - BashCH
Not a comparable situation, at all!!!!!
Rivet was practically a healthy scratch with the Habs, and they had no young core the way they have now.
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number_23
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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He was Koivu's friend...what message did that send to him ? Poor guy! - BashCH
You don't need useless players as part of your core...
Rivet was useless...Markov is not.
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hscesq
Referee Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY Joined: 06.26.2007
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You are right...but they don't need to be reminded a few days before they head to a battle...
I don't think the habs can afford to trade Markov and still hope to make the playoffs and keep a straight face and tell the guys they expect to win. Trading him in the off-season or at the beginning of the year, there's still time to forge a new identity...but now? - number_23
WTF? |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Not a comparable situation, at all!!!!!
Rivet was practically a healthy scratch with the Habs, and they had no young core the way they have now. - EricEngels
They still need more prospects if they want to become contenders...look at Hamilton...they look pretty thin on offense if you ask me. |
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number_23
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic? Joined: 10.15.2008
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Habs Talk
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They still need more prospects if they want to become contenders...look at Hamilton...they look pretty thin on offense if you ask me. - BashCH
they'll get more prospects. they have tradeable assets. And Markov is still tradeable post-deadline, as the blog suggests. |
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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: QC Joined: 07.03.2008
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Not a comparable situation, at all!!!!!
Rivet was practically a healthy scratch with the Habs, and they had no young core the way they have now. - EricEngels
My favorite part of that story is Rivet saying he was happy to leave, female doging about Montreal because he was tired of the cold and having to scrape the ice from his car's windshield...and being traded to Buffalo not very long after. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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they'll get more prospects. they have tradeable assets. And Markov is still tradeable post-deadline, as the blog suggests. - EricEngels
I know but he won't fetch anywhere as close to what he could at the deadline... |
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