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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:09 PM ET
my one gripe with this whole thing is that malkin was by no means held off of the scoresheet in that series.
- stayinthefnnet

Well I'm certainly not gonna disagree, but I think we can both say, for whatever reason, Coots has Malkin's number. Shrek just doesn't ever seem like he plays the way he normally can/the way he's capable of when he's matched up against Coots.

It's something I haven't seen before, honestly. It's night and day.

Obviously not 100% of the time but it's definitely nice if you're a Flyers fan
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 24 @ 11:12 PM ET
Agreed. Maybe the Flyers can use a poor performance vs Finland to pry Fowler or Faulk off their teams
- Jsaquella

Fowler's always been a pipe dream of mine. He seems like he's gonna be a really good player.

Almost like a Ryan Suter type with a better goal scoring touch. I've always liked him.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 24 @ 11:12 PM ET
Agreed, wholeheartedly. If the Olympics were held in August or September, I'd watch them and enjoy them more. I felt zero passion watching the games this time around. Hell, even in 2010, I wasn't that fired up.

The 1996 World Cup and the 1987 Canada Cup remain the best all around international tournaments I have seen.

- Jsaquella


oh, come on! rendezvous '87 was even better.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:26 PM ET
Yep. I knew that about 76'. Interesting debate. I mean Latvia's best dman is Oskars Bartulis. Wasn't Latvia the only team in the tourney without a single active NHL player?
- PLindbergh31


Sandis Ozoliņšh!

He's only 41, Flyers should sign him up
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 11:30 PM ET
Sandis Ozoliņšh!

He's only 41, Flyers should sign him up

- Marc D


No way! He's my signing!

/Ruben Amaro Jr.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 11:31 PM ET
Well I'm certainly not gonna disagree, but I think we can both say, for whatever reason, Coots has Malkin's number. Shrek just doesn't ever seem like he plays the way he normally can/the way he's capable of when he's matched up against Coots.

It's something I haven't seen before, honestly. It's night and day.

Obviously not 100% of the time but it's definitely nice if you're a Flyers fan

- Giroux_Is_God

that he does.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:32 PM ET
No way! He's my signing!

/Ruben Amaro Jr.

- johndewar

he played like a stud for that latvia team, bunch of scrappers and he was their clear leader
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 11:34 PM ET
he played like a stud for that latvia team, bunch of scrappers and he was their clear leader
- Marc D


What he did over a short tourney was pretty remarkable, but not sure it translates over a full NHL season.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:37 PM ET
What he did over a short tourney was pretty remarkable, but not sure it translates over a full NHL season.
- johndewar

oh I know

still I was impressed... for 2 weeks (like you said)
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 24 @ 11:42 PM ET
This message approved by Steven Starr.
- PhillySportsGuy

(frank) t h at guy
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 24 @ 11:46 PM ET
oh I know

still I was impressed... for 2 weeks (like you said)

- Marc D


Me too. Always thought he was a helluva player in North America.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 11:54 PM ET
What he did over a short tourney was pretty remarkable, but not sure it translates over a full NHL season.
- johndewar


He had some personal issues, including a pretty serious drinking problem. Seems that he's sorted things out and is enjoying a great twilight to his career.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 25 @ 12:03 AM ET
He had some personal issues, including a pretty serious drinking problem. Seems that he's sorted things out and is enjoying a great twilight to his career.
- Jsaquella


Totally happy for him if he's sorted it out. Dude had all sorts of skills.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 25 @ 12:09 AM ET
Hey Farva, what's your favorite restaurant...the one with all that poop hanging on the walls?
- Jsaquella


PLind sticks his head around the corner and says "shenanigans"?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 25 @ 1:00 AM ET
I agree with Al Morganti on this: Shutting the league down means you think the Stanley Cup is NOT as important as a Gold Medal.

And I disagree with that notion, on every level. The Stanley Cup is the greatest trophy in hockey.

- johndewar


The most indelible moments in North American hockey history have come during international competition... Lake Placid Miracle for the USA and Paul Henderson's Summit Series goal in 72... ironically, neither involved the Stanley Cup.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 25 @ 1:03 AM ET
The most indelible moments in North American hockey history have come during international competition... Lake Placid Miracle for the USA and Paul Henderson's Summit Series goal in 72... ironically, neither involved the Stanley Cup.
- Tomahawk

Yeah, but those also had a common denominator: the USSR.

More than hockey at that point. That's a little bit....uncommon.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:06 AM ET
oh, come on! rendezvous '87 was even better.
- hammarby31


Could Fuhr have been any deeper in his net? [/img]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N1BL0L1WkD8
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 25 @ 8:09 AM ET
Yeah, but those also had a common denominator: the USSR.

More than hockey at that point. That's a little bit....uncommon.

- Giroux_Is_God



Not really. US is the only country that seems to have stopped caring about international competition, maybe because as the lone super power, we have no need to compete via proxy.

Other countries, including Canada, seem to relish the opportunity to go country vs country. Finland vs Sweden is always a big deal. Finland vs Russia as well. Any of the former Soviet republics vs Russia is always huge. Imagine how significant a miracle win for Ukraine over Russia would be today, given current events. And the WJC is probably bigger than the SCF every year in Canada.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 25 @ 8:40 AM ET
Not really. US is the only country that seems to have stopped caring about international competition, maybe because as the lone super power, we have no need to compete via proxy.

Other countries, including Canada, seem to relish the opportunity to go country vs country. Finland vs Sweden is always a big deal. Finland vs Russia as well. Any of the former Soviet republics vs Russia is always huge. Imagine how significant a miracle win for Ukraine over Russia would be today, given current events. And the WJC is probably bigger than the SCF every year in Canada.

- Tomahawk


a few notes....its a shame if the US has indeed stopped caring.....It is a rather large country, with a boat load of diversity, people in certain area's just dont care about certain sports.....as for the WJC being bigger then the stanley cup, In Canada, that remains true....that would change if a Canadian team such as Toronto ever made the cup.....its goofy when their in the playoffs....I even have trouble watching when games are being played in June.
they were saying theis morning that 90 % of TVs that were on at 7am Sunday morning were tuned into Canada-Sweeden. all though not official, it really is our national past time.....throw in our patriotic feelings it's bedlam when Canada plays.....heck even the bars opened and served drinks Sunday morning to watch the game.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 25 @ 8:57 AM ET
So what's the fun topic today?

Grossmann sucks?
Tear apart team/future for one player?
Holmgren must go?
Giroux didn't deserve the extension?
Trade all of our vets (ignore NTCs) and throw the season for a better pick?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 25 @ 9:03 AM ET
So what's the fun topic today?

Grossmann sucks?
Tear apart team/future for one player?
Holmgren must go?
Giroux didn't deserve the extension?
Trade all of our vets (ignore NTCs) and throw the season for a better pick?

- jmatchett383


Boy, all of these look so good. I don't know where to start.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 25 @ 9:15 AM ET
Boy, all of these look so good. I don't know where to start.
- PhillySportsGuy


Maybe we can go for the sampler, just a little bit of them all.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:22 AM ET
Not really. US is the only country that seems to have stopped caring about international competition, maybe because as the lone super power, we have no need to compete via proxy.

Other countries, including Canada, seem to relish the opportunity to go country vs country. Finland vs Sweden is always a big deal. Finland vs Russia as well. Any of the former Soviet republics vs Russia is always huge. Imagine how significant a miracle win for Ukraine over Russia would be today, given current events. And the WJC is probably bigger than the SCF every year in Canada.

- Tomahawk


WJC is bigger in Canada than the SCF because they have an entire league of kids that compete on a regular basis in junior hockey leagues, so it's in their faces all the time.

There is also no more big baddie for the US citizenry to get up for.



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 25 @ 9:26 AM ET
WJC is bigger in Canada than the SCF because they have an entire league of kids that compete on a regular basis in junior hockey leagues, so it's in their faces all the time.

There is also no more big baddie for the US citizenry to get up for.

- johndewar


I still despise Russia. I was more excited that they got knocked out than I was that the US advanced. I wasn't alive during most of the Cold War, so I don't know what 1980 was like except from stories, Hollywood movies, and documentaries. But I still don't like Russia at all.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
I still despise Russia. I was more excited that they got knocked out than I was that the US advanced. I wasn't alive during most of the Cold War, so I don't know what 1980 was like except from stories, Hollywood movies, and documentaries. But I still don't like Russia at all.
- jmatchett383


Russia is practically just a run of the mill criminal empire at this point.

If you grew up in the late '70's and early '80's, you really thought that the USSR and US would bomb each other back to the stone ages.

The perceived stakes were a little different back then.
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