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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:20 PM ET
hmmph
- stayinthefnnet


Now, Philosophy majors. They'd be well deserving of a scholarship
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
I'd look into Kevin Bieksa as a semi-affordable trade option at the deadline or draft -- Canucks have issues. He's cost-controlled, and can be a younger bridge than Boyle.

Then grab Diaz if he makes it to UFA and pair him with his Swiss partner Streit.

Both mobile right shots, neither breaks the bank, a complete makeover of the d-corps without risking another albatross/eggs-in-one-basket scenario.

- Tomahawk


I think the Canucks like Bieksa. I don't think they view him as part of the problem.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:22 PM ET
I know. I wish Temple had their own stadiums too.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah...they just need to understand the size of there football program....no need to rent the Linc....frankly as few people go to the games they could probably rent out a high school field and be ok
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
I'd look into Kevin Bieksa as a semi-affordable trade option at the deadline or draft -- Canucks have issues. He's cost-controlled, and can be a younger bridge than Boyle.

Then grab Diaz if he makes it to UFA and pair him with his Swiss partner Streit.

Both mobile right shots, neither breaks the bank, a complete makeover of the d-corps without risking another albatross/eggs-in-one-basket scenario.

- Tomahawk



This is too practical for flyers management
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
Now, Philosophy majors. They'd be well deserving of a scholarship
- PhillySportsGuy

hey, its your money
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:26 PM ET
Yeah...they just need to understand the size of there football program....no need to rent the Linc....frankly as few people go to the games they could probably rent out a high school field and be ok
- nonpoint22


I know. Its all about recruiting though. Being able to tell players they can play at a professional stadium is probably a major selling point. I still think they'd do much better with a 20,000 seat stadium somewhere else. I hate seeing empty stands for every game.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:26 PM ET
I think the Canucks like Bieksa. I don't think they view him as part of the problem.
- PhillySportsGuy



Long-term, they've got Tanev and Corrado, both right-shots, looking for bigger minutes. Out of their core D, I'm thinking parting with Bieksa would be more palatable than losing Hamhuis/Edler/Garrison.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:29 PM ET
Long-term, they've got Tanev and Corrado, both right-shots, looking for bigger minutes. Out of their core D, I'm thinking parting with Bieksa would be more palatable than losing Hamhuis/Edler/Garrison.
- Tomahawk


Thats a possibility. I'm not sure Bieksa is a great fit though. Flyers really need mobility on the back end.

The best move the Canucks can make is to fire Torts.
Bearintheforest
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.12.2013

Feb 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Thats a possibility. I'm not sure Bieksa is a great fit though. Flyers really need mobility on the back end.

The best move the Canucks can make is to fire Torts.

- PhillySportsGuy


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
Yeah, and we did just fine with Bruno Gervais in our top 3 at the end of last year. So let's do that every year.
- jmatchett383

we're eventually going to have to learn how to play with out him maybe it's time our dmen grew a pair
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
Naaaahhhh.
- PhillySportsGuy

How bout a PCP pharmacy student?

Got a rock solid 62 on Molec btw
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
How bout a PCP pharmacy student?

Got a rock solid 62 on Molec btw

- Giroux_Is_God

perhaps we can swap representation for healthcare in a few years
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
Like Callahan, I'd be really worried if Girardi is really a Grade A talent, or more a beneficiary of being in a system that was virtually perfect for his skill-set, especially if it's going to cost $$$/+++ to get him.
- Tomahawk



I don't think that there is such a thing. A good defenseman such as Girardi can play in any system. While he is not a true #1 because he is not a top point producer or puck mover. He is outstanding in his own end, and can be a secondary point producer. He would instantly be the Flyers best defenseman. And he would substantially improve the blueline. Then the only issue is the cost to acquire the player.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
Speaking of filling roles, this may be overly-optimistic, but aren't they grooming L Schenn to be their Dan Girardi at some point?
- Tomahawk



Can always use 2" Dan Girardi's"
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:54 PM ET
Can always use 2" Dan Girardi's"
- MJL

that you can. although not to be overly critical, i dont think schenn ever matches girardi
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 1:58 PM ET
that you can. although not to be overly critical, i dont think schenn ever matches girardi
- stayinthefnnet


I may be the only one who still believes schenn will develop into a very good shutdown defenseman.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
I may be the only one who still believes schenn will develop into a very good shutdown defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm in, I saw enough late last season and in recent games to think that he will find a level of consistency soon and be a very solid physical shut down guy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
I may be the only one who still believes schenn will develop into a very good shutdown defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think if he can fix his consistency issues, he can be a fine defenseman. I don't think it's an unlikely scenario, either.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:07 PM ET
I may be the only one who still believes schenn will develop into a very good shutdown defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy

i think he will always just be an average guy with his uses and limits. has a part in any top 6, but isnt necessarily an anchor guy either
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
Can always use 2" Dan Girardi's"
- MJL



Isn't Coburn a "Girardi" too? I think the pressing need is for puck-movers to compliment the Coburns and Schenns that they already have... seems a grossly inefficient use of cap-space to get preoccupied with Girardi, just because he's likely to be the brightest, shiniest object out there.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
i think he will always just be an average guy with his uses and limits. has a part in any top 6, but isnt necessarily an anchor guy either
- stayinthefnnet


He was very good last year and began to regain that form before the break. If he can find last years level of play again, I will be very satisfied with him. I just hope he finds consistency. It took Coburn a long time to find it. He still has his annual 10-15 game stretch where he looks lost every year
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
i think he will always just be an average guy with his uses and limits. has a part in any top 6, but isnt necessarily an anchor guy either
- stayinthefnnet



You just described Dan Girardi, circa-2009, at the age of 26. Schenn's 24?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
He was very good last year and began to regain that form before the break. If he can find last years level of play again, I will be very satisfied with him. I just hope he finds consistency. It took Coburn a long time to find it. He still has his annual 10-15 game stretch where he looks lost every year
- PhillySportsGuy

i think coburns physical skills have helped him get through a lot of those issues though, whereas schenn isnt so blessed
SchennBros
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Joined: 08.06.2012

Feb 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
Has anyone else heard that St.Louis was demanding a trade after initially being left off the Olympic team, and still wants traded. Heard Lighting and Rangers are talking Callahan+ for St. Louis.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:18 PM ET
I'd look into Kevin Bieksa as a semi-affordable trade option at the deadline or draft -- Canucks have issues. He's cost-controlled, and can be a younger bridge than Boyle.

Then grab Diaz if he makes it to UFA and pair him with his Swiss partner Streit.

Both mobile right shots, neither breaks the bank, a complete makeover of the d-corps without risking another albatross/eggs-in-one-basket scenario.

- Tomahawk


That'd be doable, too
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