If you trade MacDonald you have a bottom tier NHL defense next season and a bottom tier goaltending.

That being said the Isles farm system is packed with highly rated D prospects.

What do Islander fans actually feel Poulins potential is
- QuicksEnnormous

trading Amac would be an upgrade for the isles
he sucks

This move seems ridiculous on the surface because it is....especially if Callahan is wanted 6.75 a year....Edmonton would be nuts to trade the first overall pick for leadership....You can sign a third liner UFA with leadership
- nonpoint22

Pretty much nailed it.
If we want a 30-40 point 3rd liner with leadership we can sign Steve Ott at an overpaid 5 million for 5 years, and still save 22.5 million dollars and Yakupov.
And that's assuming we get Callahan to sign with us.

respect this!

i dont blame vanek for rejecting snow's offer though. if snow really wanted to resign him, he would have at least offered him somewhat of a raise, which he is sure to get on the open market.
- slapshot018

Snow gave him a starting point, which was the same as his last contract. There was no counter offer. That means no matter what the Isles offered Vanek he would have turned it down. Vanek turned down 10 Mill per year from Buffalo over the summer. Vanek wants to be a UFA and pick where he gets to play for the rest of his career.

Snow gave him a starting point, which was the same as his last contract. There was no counter offer. That means no matter what the Isles offered Vanek he would have turned it down. Vanek turned down 10 Mill per year from Buffalo over the summer. Vanek wants to be a UFA and pick where he gets to play for the rest of his career.
- cawala

Pegula offered Vanek a contract to make him one of the highest paid players in the league and he said no...that was just before he was traded. Vanek has one thing on his mind and I don't even think it's as much about winning as it's going home to Minnesota. It will be interesting to see come July 1st whether Vanek signs for big bucks with a contender or takes less to go home to Minnesota.
Personally I don't think Snow did his due diligence before making that trade.
A question to the Islander fans do you think Vanek is a big upgrade over Moulson? The only difference to me is Vanek is a better passer around the goal.

Pegula offered Vanek a contract to make him one of the highest paid players in the league and he said no...that was just before he was traded. Vanek has one thing on his mind and I don't even think it's as much about winning as it's going home to Minnesota. It will be interesting to see come July 1st whether Vanek signs for big bucks with a contender or takes less to go home to Minnesota.
Personally I don't think Snow did his due diligence before making that trade.
A question to the Islander fans do you think Vanek is a big upgrade over Moulson? The only difference to me is Vanek is a better passer around the goal.
- Leninthebuff

Vanek does not show up to some games, as Sabres fans are much familiar with this situation.

Pegula offered Vanek a contract to make him one of the highest paid players in the league and he said no...that was just before he was traded. Vanek has one thing on his mind and I don't even think it's as much about winning as it's going home to Minnesota. It will be interesting to see come July 1st whether Vanek signs for big bucks with a contender or takes less to go home to Minnesota.
Personally I don't think Snow did his due diligence before making that trade.
A question to the Islander fans do you think Vanek is a big upgrade over Moulson? The only difference to me is Vanek is a better passer around the goal.
- Leninthebuff

He is an upgrade, but not a big enough upgrade to justify what was given up and the fact that offense was/is not the area the Isles need to upgrade.

I will say that watching the JT-TV-KO line has been incredible. Best line in hockey in Dec/Jan. Probably the best line the Isles have had since the Dynasty years.

This move seems ridiculous on the surface because it is....especially if Callahan is wanted 6.75 a year....Edmonton would be nuts to trade the first overall pick for leadership....You can sign a third liner UFA with leadership
- nonpoint22

No one is going to pay Callahan over $5.5 - $5.75. He is valuable to any team, but he's not worth that kind of money. And I didn't presume that Edomonton would deal Yak straight up for Cally... only asserted that those two players would be the meat and potatoes of the deal. And yes, you may be able to find a third liner with leadership qualities, but Callahan brings just a little bit more than a 3rd line caliber leadership role.

No one is going to pay Callahan over $5.5 - $5.75. He is valuable to any team, but he's not worth that kind of money. And I didn't presume that Edomonton would deal Yak straight up for Cally... only asserted that those two players would be the meat and potatoes of the deal. And yes, you may be able to find a third liner with leadership qualities, but Callahan brings just a little bit more than a 3rd line caliber leadership role.
- MnGump

Trading a former 1st overall 100 games into his career for a pending UFA is a recipe for disaster. He's a great player but factoring in contract he can't be a main piece in a Yakupov deal.

Either we overpay for Callahan, or he walks. And if we're overpaying for him anyway, why do we need to acquire him now at the cost of Yakupov?

No one is going to pay Callahan over $5.5 - $5.75. He is valuable to any team, but he's not worth that kind of money. And I didn't presume that Edomonton would deal Yak straight up for Cally... only asserted that those two players would be the meat and potatoes of the deal. And yes, you may be able to find a third liner with leadership qualities, but Callahan brings just a little bit more than a 3rd line caliber leadership role.
- MnGump

You will be surprised, as there will always be "that" GM whom will overpay for a player.
It always happens, and it will happen again.

You will be surprised, as there will always be "that" GM whom will overpay for a player.
It always happens, and it will happen again.
- Sabresfan88

Very true, but I still don't see any GM dumb enough to do it... Okay, maybe Snow.

I could see why they Oilers would want Callahan. I think Yak has more potential offensively but I could see the Oilers having more need for a Callahan type of player. He is the type they have been talking about getting. I big hitter that can add some offense. However if it is straight across, NYR would make out better in the long run. As an Oiler fan I would like to see them bring back a trade able asset to upgrade their center position with if they are getting rid of Gagner.

However the Oil should focus on dumping dmen during the trade deadline. They have the most value (if last year is any indication), plus the Oilers look to have a surplus next year. They don't have many good ones to offer but Redden had value last deadline and Regher was worth a bunch. You have to figure that they could get some prospects or picks. Then as a fan I would like to see those moved for proven players before or at the draft. Oil don't need more prospects.

well you also expect the jets to trade pavelec for an excellent dman, yet the entire world knows pavelec sucks which is why he was benched in favor of khl goalies in the olympics. as if the jets need any more dmen anyways...they need forward help bad. aren't you supposed to be a jets fan, why do i know the team more than you do? jeez...
- sensnucksnocups

read my later down the thread post. I suggested moving Pav for a bag of pucks and a 6 pack. you're right, he sucks. I don't know that I could give you a better example of a bad contract on the jets team... even Olli brings something to the table with his salary.

These "rumors" might be the most far fetched, improbable rumors I've ever heard. And I'm not talking about just this site either. I'm talking about anywhere. Yakupov for Callahan? That makes zero sense for Edmonton. You think they'd give up a guy they took first overall for a deadline rental player? There's no way Callahan would want to re-sign in Edmonton. When was the last time they landed a big name, free agent? They might be the least appealing franchise to players. That rumor is just ridiculous. It's a fifth grade level rumor. Just wouldn't ever happen, ever. The Senators are interested in Steve Ott AND Matt Moulson? That might be as ridiculous as the Callahan rumor. Why would the Senators give up assets to acquire two rental players when they're not close to a contender and are likely to miss the playoffs? They're not as unappealing of a franchise for players as Edmonton is, but I don't see either one of them re-signing in Ottawa after hypothetically being traded there. These rumors shouldn't have even been posted. Eklund should have just laughed in whoever told him that's face. He might wanna think about staying away from that dude. He might just be trying to ruin Eklund's creditability.

As I said they are the main principles of the trade I didn't say a straight up trade, lets say it's Eberle what would you want added to make the trade possible?
- Leninthebuff

Foligno.

i'd trade yakupov for mcdonough......hell, i'd even throw in another prospect or pick along with yakupov.
- sensarmy_11

This! McDonagh was the best USA d man by a country mile. He's a guy you can build around.

I bet Montreal is still kicking their asses over that trade. Could you imagine subban and mcdonagh, together?

(Brains start leaking out of left ear)

If you realized how bad our goaltending was, you would know if they upgrade it, the isles could easily be a playoff team next year. Top 10 in NHL in goals.
- Isles316

Top 10 in NHL in goals for? You should recheck your facts bud. There not even in the top 15 in either GF or GA, let alone the top 10.

Jets get: Coburn, Meszaros, couts
flyers get: Kane and Byfuglien

then...

Isles get: a few prospects/picks
Flyers get: a. mcdonald

seems feasible

Jets get: Coburn, Meszaros, couts
flyers get: Kane and Byfuglien

then...

Isles get: a few prospects/picks
Flyers get: a. mcdonald

seems feasible
- flyers2893

Seems lopsided to me. Trade value wise I think a Couts is even with Kane, but the difference between Buff and Coburn is greater than the value of Mezaros. Maybe throw a 2nd Winnepeg's way as well?

Seems lopsided to me. Trade value wise I think a Couts is even with Kane, but the difference between Buff and Coburn is greater than the value of Mezaros. Maybe throw a 2nd Winnepeg's way as well?
- Jeropotato

Maybe a 4th, def not a 2nd!!

Maybe a 4th, def not a 2nd!!
- flyers2893

Lol....statistically, there isnt much difference between a 2nd a 4th.

Seems lopsided to me. Trade value wise I think a Couts is even with Kane, but the difference between Buff and Coburn is greater than the value of Mezaros. Maybe throw a 2nd Winnepeg's way as well?
- Jeropotato

Yeah no

Yeah no

- top shelf 15

Say what you want, but I would rather have Couts now and 5 years from now.

Say what you want, but I would rather have Couts now and 5 years from now.
- Jeropotato

Ok you would probably be the only one ,couts is ok but he isnt an offensive threat like kane is never will be.Just doesnt have the speed

I could see why they Oilers would want Callahan. I think Yak has more potential offensively but I could see the Oilers having more need for a Callahan type of player. He is the type they have been talking about getting. I big hitter that can add some offense. However if it is straight across, NYR would make out better in the long run. As an Oiler fan I would like to see them bring back a trade able asset to upgrade their center position with if they are getting rid of Gagner.

However the Oil should focus on dumping dmen during the trade deadline. They have the most value (if last year is any indication), plus the Oilers look to have a surplus next year. They don't have many good ones to offer but Redden had value last deadline and Regher was worth a bunch. You have to figure that they could get some prospects or picks. Then as a fan I would like to see those moved for proven players before or at the draft. Oil don't need more prospects.
- Hall Fan

Yes we do. Khari, Pitlick, Moroz, Klefbom, Nurse,Brossoit......and not much else.

Jets get: Coburn, Meszaros, couts
flyers get: Kane and Byfuglien

then...

Isles get: a few prospects/picks
Flyers get: a. mcdonald

seems feasible
- flyers2893

For the flyers maybe, post this on the jet board and iam sure they wont see it as feasible