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FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
Roland McKeown has fallen some (forgot to add him), was told by a scout recently "good 2-way game - not pure offensive guy,not punishing physical guy either, scouts have mixed views. Some higher than 17, some significantly lower than that. Needs a good second half to hold his spot in 1st round ( or in our case get him back in)"
- ob18


Ive seen the same thing. I cant really get a read on where he will go. I do agree that this is make or break time for him. A good second half can be the difference between him going at roughly 15th or around 30th.

Also I think that there will be a run on D at this draft due to the lack of them. That could allow him to go higher than he should.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:24 PM ET
How has his offense looked? I see his shooting percentage is a bit low, is he getting chances at least?

Nothing wrong with a 40-50 point defensive centre, it's what Edmonton desperately needs. Do you guys see him as a 65 point guy in the future?

- ystoil


Right now you'll have a good shot to select Sam Reinhart, Sam Bennett, Leon Draisaitl, or Michael dal Colle. You'll be fine.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
True, but coach can be any nationality. For instance, despite coaching Latvia, Nolan is Canadian
- Jsaquella


Interesting. I thought Nolan was maybe First Nation and a bit Latvian or something. He is a great coach. Too bad he is stuck in Buffalo
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
Ive seen the same thing. I cant really get a read on where he will go. I do agree that this is make or break time for him. A good second half can be the difference between him going at roughly 15th or around 30th.

Also I think that there will be a run on D at this draft due to the lack of them. That could allow him to go higher than he should.

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


I'm more looking at forwards but always go with the BPA.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Interesting. I thought Nolan was maybe First Nation and a bit Latvian or something. He is a great coach. Too bad he is stuck in Buffalo
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

He is First Nation , for sure...during the Sweden-Finland game, they mentioned that one tourney , a Swede coached Finland & beat Tre Kronor in Sweden
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
Right now you'll have a good shot to select Sam Reinhart, Sam Bennett, Leon Draisaitl, or Michael dal Colle. You'll be fine.
- ob18


I'm personally hoping for a centre in this draft. Lots of fans keep rating Ekblad like a franchise Dman but I don't see it. I thought he looked okay at the World Juniors but I personally saw mistakes that would cost him in the NHL. Even Mackenzie said at the start of the year he looked like a second pairing guy. If we pick him, I will cheer him on no doubt.

I like Draisaitl's size (game is similar to Kopitar) and Bennet has intensity/grit. Bennet might grow a bit too and hopefully hit 6'1 200lbs in a couple years.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
I'm personally hoping for a centre in this draft. Lots of fans keep rating Ekblad like a franchise Dman but I don't see it. I thought he looked okay at the World Juniors but I personally saw mistakes that would cost him in the NHL. Even Mackenzie said at the start of the year he looked like a second pairing guy. If we pick him, I will cheer him on no doubt.

I like Draisaitl's size (game is similar to Kopitar) and Bennet has intensity/grit. Bennet might grow a bit too and hopefully hit 6'1 200lbs in a couple years.

- ystoil


I like them all, Ekblad has had some rough games, but he's a solid player with top pair potential.

I'm a big fan of Dal Colle & Bennett......watched them play against each other last night, they'll do it again tomorrow.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
If you're a USA fan you got to hope that they go a different direction both in the front office & behind bench. Specifically, got to limit Brian Burke's involvement as well as Poile's. Looking back at the articles by Allen & Burnside, it's not hard to see why neither Burke or Poile have managed to build a Stanley Cup winner despite nearly 45 combined years of experience as GMs.

I know Burke won in 2007, but Bryan Murray did most of the heavy lifting.

Also, highly unimpressed by Bylsma. Guy has Crosby & Malkin on his roster & has won 3 playoff series since 2009. That's pretty poor performance

- Jsaquella

where to find these?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
where to find these?
- Marc D

Google inside USA Olympic team burnside & allen
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
I'm more looking at forwards but always go with the BPA.
- ob18


Of course. Ive always felt that you should go BPA. How many teams agree with that drafting philosophy? I have a hard time believing the Islanders do after they had that draft where they chose all defensemen.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
Of course. Ive always felt that you should go BPA. How many teams agree with that drafting philosophy? I have a hard time believing the Islanders do after they had that draft where they chose all defensemen.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


I'm sure some go away from it often & others from time to time.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
He is First Nation , for sure...during the Sweden-Finland game, they mentioned that one tourney , a Swede coached Finland & beat Tre Kronor in Sweden
- Jsaquella


I remember hearing that and thinking that was odd but not thinking much of it. Huh. Im curious if they would change or keep that rule for the possible world cup of hockey.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Olli Frankin Maata. So good.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:34 PM ET
Kostka and Mottau on waivers
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
If you're a USA fan you got to hope that they go a different direction both in the front office & behind bench. Specifically, got to limit Brian Burke's involvement as well as Poile's. Looking back at the articles by Allen & Burnside, it's not hard to see why neither Burke or Poile have managed to build a Stanley Cup winner despite nearly 45 combined years of experience as GMs.

I know Burke won in 2007, but Bryan Murray did most of the heavy lifting.

Also, highly unimpressed by Bylsma. Guy has Crosby & Malkin on his roster & has won 3 playoff series since 2009. That's pretty poor performance

- Jsaquella


The problem with Burke is that once his mind is made up, he'll cut off his nose to spite his face.

On international ice, goals can be hard to come by.

Yes, I agreed that Team USA needed to be fast, and yes, I agreed with having guys on the team who could play two-way hockey.

But you can, and will, get beat by not being to put the puck in the net. I would've brought Bobby Ryan just to even play on the PP. Because he can flat-out score.

Burke doesn't like him, as a player, for whatever reason. OK. But at some point, you gotta ask yourself this question: Who's gonna score, when you're down a goal to the Canadians and you gotta have one?

I would've had Bobby Ryan in my back pocket, just to make sure. Because the guy can score goals. There's no reason whatsoever for that statement to be in dispute. Even if he just played the PP, with one shot, that guy could've been a difference-maker.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 22 @ 2:48 PM ET
The problem with Burke is that once his mind is made up, he'll cut off his nose to spite his face.

On international ice, goals can be hard to come by.

Yes, I agreed that Team USA needed to be fast, and yes, I agreed with having guys on the team who could play two-way hockey.

But you can, and will, get beat by not being to put the puck in the net. I would've brought Bobby Ryan just to even play on the PP. Because he can flat-out score.

Burke doesn't like him, as a player, for whatever reason. OK. But at some point, you gotta ask yourself this question: Who's gonna score, when you're down a goal to the Canadians and you gotta have one?

I would've had Bobby Ryan in my back pocket, just to make sure. Because the guy can score goals. There's no reason whatsoever for that statement to be in dispute. Even if he just played the PP, with one shot, that guy could've been a difference-maker.

- AllInForFlyers


definitely. you find a spot for him.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
If you're a USA fan you got to hope that they go a different direction both in the front office & behind bench. Specifically, got to limit Brian Burke's involvement as well as Poile's. Looking back at the articles by Allen & Burnside, it's not hard to see why neither Burke or Poile have managed to build a Stanley Cup winner despite nearly 45 combined years of experience as GMs.

I know Burke won in 2007, but Bryan Murray did most of the heavy lifting.

Also, highly unimpressed by Bylsma. Guy has Crosby & Malkin on his roster & has won 3 playoff series since 2009. That's pretty poor performance

- Jsaquella

I do not think Bylsma is worthy of praise. I think he's nothing special.

I've always thought that.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
I do not think Bylsma is worthy of praise. I think he's nothing special.

I've always thought that.

- Giroux_Is_God

hes hard to get a read on for me. there are some things he does, both good and bad, that make you just wonder
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:59 PM ET
I do not think Bylsma is worthy of praise. I think he's nothing special.

I've always thought that.

- Giroux_Is_God


Agreed. Given the tools at his disposal his inability to push the Pens (or team USA) in make or break situations is downright awful. Im curious if the Pens fall flat this year in the postseason whether Shero will get rid of his golden boy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
The problem with Burke is that once his mind is made up, he'll cut off his nose to spite his face.

On international ice, goals can be hard to come by.

Yes, I agreed that Team USA needed to be fast, and yes, I agreed with having guys on the team who could play two-way hockey.

But you can, and will, get beat by not being to put the puck in the net. I would've brought Bobby Ryan just to even play on the PP. Because he can flat-out score.

Burke doesn't like him, as a player, for whatever reason. OK. But at some point, you gotta ask yourself this question: Who's gonna score, when you're down a goal to the Canadians and you gotta have one?

I would've had Bobby Ryan in my back pocket, just to make sure. Because the guy can score goals. There's no reason whatsoever for that statement to be in dispute. Even if he just played the PP, with one shot, that guy could've been a difference-maker.

- AllInForFlyers


I don't disagree with you, Bobby Ryan should've been on the team. Doubt he would of made a difference today, getting routed 5-0. But he could've made a difference against Canada.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
hes hard to get a read on for me. there are some things he does, both good and bad, that make you just wonder
- stayinthefnnet

Exactly. By absolutely no means do I think he's a BAD coach, but I don't think he's perennial Jack Adams candidate material like he's played out to be.

You look at guys like Tippet and Babcock...those are the games great coaches year in and year out, and it seems like they hardly get the "Coach of the Year" look.

Just having a good team doesn't constitute a good coach. Which is why it annoys me that Boudreau is getting some praise as being a great coach this year. Like come on- look at that team.

His name escapes me, but my vote for an early Jack Adams goes to the coach for Tampa. He's got his players bought into a system that he put forth that works like a charm, and he's had no Stamkos since what....Halloween?

Hell, I think Berube should even get a look (inb4 homer).

This year, Bylsma's situation is a little bit different. The way he's kept the Pens winning this year with Harry Z playing in the top 6 is beyond me. I mean yeah he's got Mary Kate and Ashley and Fleury has been tremendous, but you can't ignore that.

Kind of comes full circle to what you said about it being hard to get a read on the guy
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 3:44 PM ET
Exactly. By absolutely no means do I think he's a BAD coach, but I don't think he's perennial Jack Adams candidate material like he's played out to be.
- Giroux_Is_God


Out of all the coaches we've seen from 24/7, Bylsma was by far the most impressive. He seemed to really connect with his players, kept them on an even keel, was thoughtful during he evaluation process, and was the most succinct and clear when it came to communicating tactics/X's & O's.

Babcock and Torts both came across as high-handed, while Boudreau seemed more a cheerleader than a leader. Lavi was pretty impressive, but seemed too quick to lose his cool. Carlyle came across as an idiot.

100% agree with you on Tippett... I'd love to see the cameras follow his process.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 22 @ 3:50 PM ET
Out of all the coaches we've seen from 24/7, Bylsma was by far the most impressive. He seemed to really connect with his players, kept them on an even keel, was thoughtful during he evaluation process, and was the most succinct and clear when it came to communicating tactics/X's & O's.

Babcock and Torts both came across as high-handed, while Boudreau seemed more a cheerleader than a leader. Lavi was pretty impressive, but seemed too quick to lose his cool. Carlyle came across as an idiot.

100% agree with you on Tippett... I'd love to see the cameras follow his process.

- Tomahawk

Babcock, in my opinion, is like a respected Dean. He is heavy handed, but I think his players trust him so much that it's almost his best quality.

There's a difference being heavy handed in Babcock's case, and being heavy handed like Tortorella. Babcock is like a wise sage who lays down the law, while Tortorella is a douchebag.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 3:52 PM ET
Babcock, in my opinion, is like a respected Dean. He is heavy handed, but I think his players trust him so much that it's almost his best quality.

There's a difference being heavy handed in Babcock's case, and being heavy handed like Tortorella. Babcock is like a wise sage who lays down the law, while Tortorella is a douchebag.

- Giroux_Is_God


Lot of Babcock's former players don't have many nice things to say about him. He wins, but he's also known for having sabotaged a few careers along the way, too.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 3:56 PM ET
Kostka and Mottau on waivers
- mochoson


Blackhawks are one of the few teams that really need veteran depth dmen... We know the Flyers have a ton of those... I'd love to get Brandon Pirri or one of their other prospects back in any deal.
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