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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
As much as I would love him to hoist the cup here, I do have to wonder if the Flyers could get a 1st rounder for him, whether to trade him or not.

Timonen has by far been my favourite Flyer, since his arrival. I do want him back for another year if he can go again (at a discounted rate), but I want just as badly to see him lift a cup before his time is done.

- flyer_nutter


I consider everything but I doubt he's moved unless it's at his request.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
An oiler blogger (not on hockeybuzz) proposed this:

2nd overall + klefbom + gagner for couturier + your 1st + coburn.

Thoughts?

Or even something like 2nd overall + gagner for couturier + simmonds/voracek

- ystoil


With the draft in Philly, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Flyers try and grab Ekblad. Perfect time for a big move. Not a big fan of those trade ideas, and Coburn is almost untouchable at this point, nobody can step up to take those minutes away.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
An oiler blogger (not on hockeybuzz) proposed this:

2nd overall + klefbom + gagner for couturier + your 1st + coburn.

Thoughts?

Or even something like 2nd overall + gagner for couturier + simmonds/voracek

- ystoil

hate it from the flyers perspective
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
hate it from the flyers perspective
- Marc D


Not to mention we'd lack the cap space.........I'd have to say no as well.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
With the draft in Philly, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Flyers try and grab Ekblad. Perfect time for a big move. Not a big fan of those trade ideas, and Coburn is almost untouchable at this point, nobody can step up to take those minutes away.
- flyer_nutter


Personally I don't think they have a shot at Ekblad. Don't get any hopes up for that happening.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
An oiler blogger (not on hockeybuzz) proposed this:

2nd overall + klefbom + gagner for couturier + your 1st + coburn.

Thoughts?

Or even something like 2nd overall + gagner for couturier + simmonds/voracek

- ystoil


Replace Couts with B. Schenn and I would probably do it.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:10 PM ET
Much respect from me.
Especially playing without their top centers.
Truly a team performance.

- Marc D


Im a Finnish and Russian citizen so at least one of my teams did well. Even though Teemu is retiring the Finns have great prospects coming up through the works. Id be interested to see how they do at either the World Cup of Hockey or 2018 Olympics.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
Personally I don't think they have a shot at Ekblad. Don't get any hopes up for that happening.
- ob18


True enough. I am one of those that believe it will be a few years, and hopefully some solid draft choices from being able to truly compete. Will also admit, I know next to nothing about this upcoming draft as of now. No time to pay attention, anyone close to Morrissey/Ristolainen level?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:12 PM ET
With the draft in Philly, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Flyers try and grab Ekblad. Perfect time for a big move. Not a big fan of those trade ideas, and Coburn is almost untouchable at this point, nobody can step up to take those minutes away.
- flyer_nutter


Ya I think it would depend on how high Oilers/Philly brain trust rate Ekblad. If he's there at 2, I'd imagine Homer and Mact/Loweballs will have a convo

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
If you're a USA fan you got to hope that they go a different direction both in the front office & behind bench. Specifically, got to limit Brian Burke's involvement as well as Poile's. Looking back at the articles by Allen & Burnside, it's not hard to see why neither Burke or Poile have managed to build a Stanley Cup winner despite nearly 45 combined years of experience as GMs.

I know Burke won in 2007, but Bryan Murray did most of the heavy lifting.

Also, highly unimpressed by Bylsma. Guy has Crosby & Malkin on his roster & has won 3 playoff series since 2009. That's pretty poor performance
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
Replace Couts with B. Schenn and I would probably do it.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

why are we dumping b schenn so (frank)ing fast? did we not learn anything from sharp and jvr?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
True enough. I am one of those that believe it will be a few years, and hopefully some solid draft choices from being able to truly compete. Will also admit, I know next to nothing about this upcoming draft as of now. No time to pay attention, anyone close to Morrissey/Ristolainen level?
- flyer_nutter


D is not really a strong position for this upcoming draft but outside of Ekblad I do like:

Haydn Fleury - Red Deer (possible top 10)
Julius Honka - Swift Current (possible top 20 - 25)
Brycen Martin - Swift Current (mid to late 1st & partner to Honka)

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
If you're a USA fan you got to hope that they go a different direction both in the front office & behind bench. Specifically, got to limit Brian Burke's involvement as well as Poile's. Looking back at the articles by Allen & Burnside, it's not hard to see why neither Burke or Poile have managed to build a Stanley Cup winner despite nearly 45 combined years of experience as GMs.

I know Burke won in 2007, but Bryan Murray did most of the heavy lifting.

Also, highly unimpressed by Bylsma. Guy has Crosby & Malkin on his roster & has won 3 playoff series since 2009. That's pretty poor performance

- Jsaquella

ted nolan
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
True enough. I am one of those that believe it will be a few years, and hopefully some solid draft choices from being able to truly compete. Will also admit, I know next to nothing about this upcoming draft as of now. No time to pay attention, anyone close to Morrissey/Ristolainen level?
- flyer_nutter


Defensemen I would target for the Flyers would be:
Roland McKeown(Probably out of the Flyers Reach)
Hayden Fleury (Probably out of the Flyers Reach)
Julius Honka (Who I absolutely love)
Brycen Martin (Dont know much about)

This is a better draft for forwards. My pick for forwards would be Nikolaj Ehlers. That kid has done nothing but impress me since Ob told me to watch some of his games.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:18 PM ET
ted nolan
- 2Real


Latvia.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
Defensemen I would target for the Flyers would be:
Roland McKeown(Probably out of the Flyers Reach)
Hayden Fleury (Probably out of the Flyers Reach)
Julius Honka (Who I absolutely love)
Brycen Martin (Dont know much about)

This is a better draft for forwards. My pick for forwards would be Nikolaj Ehlers. That kid has done nothing but impress me since Ob told me to watch some of his games.

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Roland McKeown has fallen some (forgot to add him), was told by a scout recently "good 2-way game - not pure offensive guy,not punishing physical guy either, scouts have mixed views. Some higher than 17, some significantly lower than that. Needs a good second half to hold his spot in 1st round ( or in our case get him back in)"
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
Replace Couts with B. Schenn and I would probably do it.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov


I probably say no, or I'd remove a piece like Klefbom from the deal. No slight against Schenn, but I'd be gunning for Couturier.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:20 PM ET
Roland McKeown has fallen some (forgot to add him), was told by a scout recently "good 2-way game - not pure offensive guy,not punishing physical guy either, scouts have mixed views. Some higher than 17, some significantly lower than that. Needs a good second half to hold his spot in 1st round ( or in our case get him back in)"
- ob18


HO SANG!!!!!!!!!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:20 PM ET
I probably say no, or I'd remove a piece like Klefbom from the deal. No slight against Schenn, but I'd be gunning for Couturier.
- ystoil


I wouldn't move Couturier, he'd be one I'd say no thanks to almost every offer.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
HO SANG!!!!!!!!!
- Jsaquella


No thank you, even with some decent games recently, still word I got was he's still not impressing many NHL scouts. You know I'm high on Nikolai Ehlers of Halifax
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
I probably say no, or I'd remove a piece like Klefbom from the deal. No slight against Schenn, but I'd be gunning for Couturier.
- ystoil


Thats a fair comment. Couturier is the kind of player the Oilers really need. I wouldnt trade Couturier though. So no deal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:21 PM ET
Latvia.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

True, but coach can be any nationality. For instance, despite coaching Latvia, Nolan is Canadian
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
Sorry to hear about MAB. Hope he feel better soon.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
I wouldn't move Couturier, he'd be one I'd say no thanks to almost every offer.
- ob18


How has his offense looked? I see his shooting percentage is a bit low, is he getting chances at least?

Nothing wrong with a 40-50 point defensive centre, it's what Edmonton desperately needs. Do you guys see him as a 65 point guy in the future?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
Sorry to hear about MAB. Hope he feel better soon.
- wolfhounds


It really sucks for him & his comeback.........Might be time for him to seriously consider not playing again for the sake of his long term health
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