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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
Leo Komarov.
- fifty__missions




Ummm no..... Kulemin is currently making 2.8 mil and that's probably what Kormorov cost next year. And Kulemin scores WAY more and is better defensively.

Kormorov is a pest.


They are not interchangable. One does not replace the other. Different roles.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
hate to break all your hearts, but he's on the way out the door whether you like him or not.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:12 PM ET
Ummm no..... Kulemin is currently making 2.8 mil and that's probably what Kormorov cost next year. And Kulemin scores WAY more and is better defensively.

Kormorov is a pest.


They are not interchangable. One does not replace the other. Different roles.

- burn

7 goals a year is wayyyy more than Komorov? Really?
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:12 PM ET
hate to break all your hearts, but he's on the way out the door whether you like him or not.
- Sheppy99


You're shooting yourself in the foot.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
The best part of that video

Greg Millen "he doesn't do this very often"

Yeah Greg, hockey people realize he doesn't do it very often. If he did, this wouldn't be a debate right now.

Wasn't as fast in this play unfortunately

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0ALTJyj5I

How do you not protect yourself there? instead you just stand their with that stupid dopey look on your face. GET IN THE GAME KULEMIN, WAKE UP

- Sheppy99



What does that have to do with how he plays the game?
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
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Feb 22 @ 1:14 PM ET
What does that have to do with how he plays the game?
- burn


Everyone he talks to who've played hockey all their lives know, that's all that matters.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:14 PM ET
2011-12 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 70 7 21 28 6 2 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 48 7 16 23 22 -5 7 0 1 1 0
2013-14 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 48 8 10 18 12 2

- Sheppy99



The last 2 years are only HALF season?? Proving my point for me??
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
The last 2 years are only HALF season?? Proving my point for me??
- burn

Disregarding the 70 games probably also helps your point too. Make sure you dont' forget to completely ignore that fact
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Feb 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
Ummm no..... Kulemin is currently making 2.8 mil and that's probably what Kormorov cost next year. And Kulemin scores WAY more and is better defensively.

Kormorov is a pest.


They are not interchangable. One does not replace the other. Different roles.

- burn


WAY more? Let's not split hairs, here, ok? Take a look at Kulemin's stats. He scores WAY more than pretty much no one. Komarov is a better PK guy, and plays a grittier game. He replaces Kulemin in pretty much every way.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:17 PM ET
again, it honestly doesn't matter at the end of the day any more what you or I think. He's being shopped and he'll be gone by the deadline or the summer either way.

So either way I'm happy
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:17 PM ET
WAY more? Let's not split hairs, here, ok? Take a look at Kulemin's stats. He scores WAY more than pretty much no one. Komarov is a better PK guy, and plays a grittier game. He replaces Kulemin in pretty much every way.
- fifty__missions

You're trying to bring sense and logic into your argument though which is going to epically fail here today..........

I'm pretty sure Burn is looking at the art ross list of winners to see when Kulemin won right now
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
Can't believe we're debating a guy who's scored a little over 20 goals in 3 years and is about 20 percent the grit Komorov is........


Burn can we consider Kulemin a 20 goal scorer if we add all 3 seasons together?

By the end of his career, we might be able to consider him a 50 goal scorer
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
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Feb 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
7 goals a year is wayyyy more than Komorov? Really?
- Sheppy99



7goals 23pts

4 goals 9 pts.

seems like way more to me.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
Everyone he talks to who've played hockey all their lives know, that's all that matters.
- A_Tree



Should I ask those that I know that have played all their lives, or does only those that he knows matter?
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
Should I ask those that I know that have played all their lives, or does only those that he knows matter?
- burn


I'm not sure, since you like to pick and choose data and disregard data that doesn't support your argument. You're welcome to do whatever you want

Remember everyone Kulemin is a 20 goal scorer with very fine print that reads

"if you combine the last 3 seasons stats together"

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:27 PM ET
Disregarding the 70 games probably also helps your point too. Make sure you dont' forget to completely ignore that fact
- Sheppy99




Oh noes...... he had a bad year. One time he's scored what you claimed, out of 6 years.


So he's scored at about a15-17 goal pace for 5 years, but ONE time he scored 7 goals, and that makes him a 7 goal scorer??


I don't need to disregard the 7 goal year, it's 1/6th of his career. Not unlike you who tried to sell him as a 7 goal scorer and he's the proof (2 half years).
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
Oh noes...... he had a bad career. One time he's scored what you claimed, out of 6 years.


So he's scored at about a15-17 goal pace for 5 years, but ONE time he scored 7 goals, and that makes him a 7 goal scorer??


I don't need to disregard the 7 goal year, it's 1/6th of his career. Not unlike you who tried to sell him as a 7 goal scorer and he's the proof (2 half years).

- burn

fixed

What are you gonna do after this year when Kule goes to the KHL?

0-82 season coming up next year without the great Kulemin
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Feb 22 @ 1:28 PM ET
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
yea disregard the 70 games though....... cause that one doesn't support your argument right
- Sheppy99


An anomaly just like the 30 goal season you disregarded
GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
hate to break all your hearts, but he's on the way out the door whether you like him or not.
- Sheppy99



Kulemin is nuts if he aint envisioning getting over paid & playing along side Malkin. I know I'd be doing that if I were him.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
WAY more? Let's not split hairs, here, ok? Take a look at Kulemin's stats. He scores WAY more than pretty much no one. Komarov is a better PK guy, and plays a grittier game. He replaces Kulemin in pretty much every way.
- fifty__missions







Perhaps you need to revise the stats.

In the one year they played together Kulemin score almost 2x as many goals and over 2 times as many pts.

Check their stats in the KHL. Kulemin outscored him during the lockout. Kulemin's # during the lockout >>> than Kormorov's this year.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
again, it honestly doesn't matter at the end of the day any more what you or I think. He's being shopped and he'll be gone by the deadline or the summer either way.

So either way I'm happy

- Sheppy99




FACT??
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
You're trying to bring sense and logic into your argument though which is going to epically fail here today..........

I'm pretty sure Burn is looking at the art ross list of winners to see when Kulemin won right now

- Sheppy99



Don;'t let the facts get in your way.


kulemin with the Leafs scores way more than Kormorov. Kuleimin in the KHL scores way more than Kormorov.

Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
FACT??
- burn

give it time
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Feb 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
FACT??
- burn


Of course all the guys in the world that have ever played hockey forever said so
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