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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
Or send away our 1st round draft pick....
- rogerjspain


I would want to stay away from any deal that includes that. 2nd rouder and a player prospect are the type of deals I would feel most comfortable with this team giving up.

We dont have the best batch of kids down on the farm. Some decent Defence, but nothing really to smile about in terms of forwards. Should still keep that 1st to add a decent blue chip winger, power forward type prosect if one is still around in the 1st rounder.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
The team has been over performing all season and reaching the playoffs is still way beyond what anyone expected. I don't think there is a single player the Avs could trade for at the deadline that would help them past the first round. The Avs might get lucky and pull off an upset against St. Louis or Chicago, but they aren't winning the cup this year.

I hope they just take the conservative approach and play with what they have. Give the young guys some playoff experience and make some moves in the off season.

- manchester33


Maybe at the beginning if the season you could say that but this team we have now is a very real playoff team. While they might not be a cup favorite, they could win it all if the offense catches fire and Varly stands on his head. The avs could also beat any team in the best of 7 with the exception of the blues. I would agree that it would be in the best interest for the Avs to take the conservative approach but PA for a Dman could still be a good idea, depending on the return as EJ and Hejda are getting pretty worn down. I wouldnt take the Avs too lightly though, the work this coaching staff has done has turned this team into a real contender
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 5:41 PM ET
I would want to stay away from any deal that includes that. 2nd rouder and a player prospect are the type of deals I would feel most comfortable with this team giving up.

We dont have the best batch of kids down on the farm. Some decent Defence, but nothing really to smile about in terms of forwards. Should still keep that 1st to add a decent blue chip winger, power forward type prosect if one is still around in the 1st rounder.

- DDM-Coga


It'll be a lower pick than in years past and our team is young enough where depending on the return trading our 1st in a somewhat weaker draft could be beneficial to the team. Especially if it can help bring in a top 4 dman.

Avs have always done best player available anyways.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
It'll be a lower pick than in years past and our team is young enough where depending on the return trading our 1st in a somewhat weaker draft could be beneficial to the team. Especially if it can help bring in a top 4 dman.

Avs have always done best player available anyways.

- Meeqsb


if they can get a top 4 dman and have him signed to an extention or under contract, sure we can package that deal up all day long.

However if we just use it for a pure rental (highly doubt we do that anymore) I would hate to see that.

I know we would draft best available, but I would be able to love a prospect like that in the 1st rounder if we still have the pick.

Like that Alex Tuch kid in the US Development League, 6'3 RW, slated for around mid to late 1st round draft.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
probably not, he will play center with Talbot and Mitchell still, which has worked out pretty well production well based on Macks skill.

Our Top 6 in still good,
O'Reilly Duchene McGinn
Landeskog Stastny Parenteau

Most drastic move is moving PAP down to 3rd and looking for a rental winger for Stastnys line. But more likely is to add to the 3rd line of Talbot, MacKinnon, and Upgraded Winger

- DDM-Coga

Steve Ott would look good on that third line

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 5:50 PM ET
Steve Ott would look good on that third line
- homiedclown


yeah but hes not getting you a 1st rounder a player and a prospect from us, like some of the packages I saw mentioned on here for his desired return.

But he would be a great playoff edition for us. Hope we just sign him as UFA
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 6:02 PM ET
if they can get a top 4 dman and have him signed to an extention or under contract, sure we can package that deal up all day long.

However if we just use it for a pure rental (highly doubt we do that anymore) I would hate to see that.

I know we would draft best available, but I would be able to love a prospect like that in the 1st rounder if we still have the pick.

Like that Alex Tuch kid in the US Development League, 6'3 RW, slated for around mid to late 1st round draft.

- DDM-Coga


I guess, however it is just the thought that would a player who wont make the club for 2 or 3 years be better than a player who could teach our younger players like duchene, Ror, gabe and mac how to be better players? The main example of Jagr is because you look at what he did with Giroux and Benn with the short time he was with them, while at the same time most likely improve our chances of making it further into the playoffs giving our young team even more experience in the playoffs and teaching them how to win a series or 2 could be invaluable and possible worth more than the player we would draft in the early to late 20s
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
yeah but hes not getting you a 1st rounder a player and a prospect from us, like some of the packages I saw mentioned on here for his desired return.

But he would be a great playoff edition for us. Hope we just sign him as UFA

- DDM-Coga


No not even close. Although I doubt Buf would be keen to trade one of their few leaders that are left on there team.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:10 PM ET
I guess, however it is just the thought that would a player who wont make the club for 2 or 3 years be better than a player who could teach our younger players like duchene, Ror, gabe and mac how to be better players? The main example of Jagr is because you look at what he did with Giroux and Benn with the short time he was with them, while at the same time most likely improve our chances of making it further into the playoffs giving our young team even more experience in the playoffs and teaching them how to win a series or 2 could be invaluable and possible worth more than the player we would draft in the early to late 20s
- Meeqsb


It all just depends on the trade in the end, if its a vet who can show the kids how to win in the playoffs, maybe thats ok.

But I just wouldnt mind adding to our prospect pool with some blue chippers. I think we are lacking some wingers with size to really compete deep in the playoffs.

I hope we can sign some of the always interesting college free agents who pop up every season.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 6:17 PM ET
It all just depends on the trade in the end, if its a vet who can show the kids how to win in the playoffs, maybe thats ok.

But I just wouldnt mind adding to our prospect pool with some blue chippers. I think we are lacking some wingers with size to really compete deep in the playoffs.

I hope we can sign some of the always interesting college free agents who pop up every season.

- DDM-Coga


I think at this point all we should worry about is making our nhl team as complete as possible, then over the next 3 or 4 years we can stack up on prospects as much as we need without having to call anyone up and just let them develop. Kind of like how Chi does it, they made a competitive young team and just left them more or less alone to compete for the cup while they have amassed quite a variety of prospects
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:22 PM ET
I think at this point all we should worry about is making our nhl team as complete as possible, then over the next 3 or 4 years we can stack up on prospects as much as we need without having to call anyone up and just let them develop. Kind of like how Chi does it, they made a competitive young team and just left them more or less alone to compete for the cup while they have amassed quite a variety of prospects
- Meeqsb


Chicago is the model team, like with Shaw and Saad coming from their system and thriving after getting an opportunity once a few role players become too pricey to retain, and they bring them in to fill those spots.

Core stays intact, draft well, dont over spend by tryign to retain everyone, manage the right assets with trades, win cup...and repeat.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 6:23 PM ET
Chicago is the model team, like with Shaw and Saad coming from their system and thriving after getting an opportunity once a few role players become too pricey to retain, and they bring them in to fill those spots.

Core stays intact, draft well, dont over spend by tryign to retain everyone, manage the right assets with trades, win cup...and repeat.

- DDM-Coga


That is more or less exactly what the Avs are doing right now, especially with the contract extensions this year.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:32 PM ET
That is more or less exactly what the Avs are doing right now, especially with the contract extensions this year.
- Meeqsb


Have been really happy with the current trades and extentions this season. Even the Guenin one, 800k for your 6th shot blocking dman, cant argue with that value.

A lot of work left to still be done but we are locking up our core at reasonable cap hits, need O'Reilly and Stastny locked up as well, and we can just let the good times roll
rogerjspain
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 02.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 6:35 PM ET
Chicago is the model team, like with Shaw and Saad coming from their system and thriving after getting an opportunity once a few role players become too pricey to retain, and they bring them in to fill those spots.

Core stays intact, draft well, dont over spend by tryign to retain everyone, manage the right assets with trades, win cup...and repeat.

- DDM-Coga


I believe it was JJ that wrote about this...

When Chicago signed Hossa, that was their declaration that they were taking the next step to win. Colorado is at about that same point. Yes, building the prospect pool can contribute greatly. Using the two examples provided though, Shaw was drafted in the 5th round, Saad was drafted in the 2nd round. Prospects develop differently, and we can still draft really great role players later in the draft. I agree that Chicago was a great model, but they still did a lot of roster maneuvering to win the cup multiple times.

Signed Hossa.
Traded Buff, Ladd, Frolik, Versteeg, draft picks, Dylan Olsen, etc.
Brought in Oduya, Versteeg, Handzus, etc.

Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 6:36 PM ET
Have been really happy with the current trades and extentions this season. Even the Guenin one, 800k for your 6th shot blocking dman, cant argue with that value.

A lot of work left to still be done but we are locking up our core at reasonable cap hits, need O'Reilly and Stastny locked up as well, and we can just let the good times roll

- DDM-Coga


It has really been going on over the last 2-3. The only real mistake this team made was hiring Sacco but in a way he did exactly what he was supposed to do by "Getting this team high value assets", he just did it by being the worst coach the team ever had lmao
rogerjspain
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 02.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 6:40 PM ET
It has really been going on over the last 2-3. The only real mistake this team made was hiring Sacco but in a way he did exactly what he was supposed to do by "Getting this team high value assets", he just did it by being the worst coach the team ever had lmao
- Meeqsb


The fact that someone could replace Tony Granato in that title is painful.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:43 PM ET
It has really been going on over the last 2-3. The only real mistake this team made was hiring Sacco but in a way he did exactly what he was supposed to do by "Getting this team high value assets", he just did it by being the worst coach the team ever had lmao
- Meeqsb


I am personally happy how things are working out now, we all said and defended this team those past seasons saying we are not a bad team we just have a terrible coach in Sacco that is killing us.

And look, we have the same roster and add a new coaching staff, brand new team with players all preforming well. Vindication in the Hockeybuzz world for defending this team all those bad seaosn from Trolls ha
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Feb 20 @ 7:24 PM ET
where was Tanguay on the avs depth chart?
_AVZ_
Colorado Avalanche
Location: CO
Joined: 06.05.2012

Feb 20 @ 7:35 PM ET
sign oreilly yet?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 20 @ 7:37 PM ET
where was Tanguay on the avs depth chart?
- hunglikeapuck


5th, 6th forward depending on how you look at it, hard to say since he had limited playing time this season.
rogerjspain
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 02.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 8:05 PM ET
sign oreilly yet?
- _AVZ_


Already been reported that he and the team have agreed to handle it after the season.
patheticgirl43
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Paddy's Pub, PA
Joined: 03.30.2011

Feb 20 @ 8:27 PM ET
Fine you guys can have hemsky
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:01 AM ET
PAP and McGinn wont be moved now for a dman.
however I can see the avs try and move guys like Mitchell, Wilson, draft picks or a prospect or 2 in order to try and to the dcore or to the third line.

Minor moves if anything

- DDM-Coga


At times I hate being right but told you Tanguay was going under the knife. Most unfortunate but still a positive scenario for PAP. A trade would have been better for me personally but I like Karma. PAP will be highly motivated.
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:46 AM ET
From today: Sakic: Avs want to talk extension with O’Reilly this summer
frogman210
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Toquerville, UT
Joined: 11.08.2011

Feb 21 @ 4:31 AM ET
This is a tough blow for the Avalanche, but on the other hand they have played the majority of their games without Tanguay this season sadly. hopefully he has a speedy recovery!

~frogman210
http://avsblogz.blogspot....2/few-quick-thoughts.html
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