Again Carlyle's simplified system of success.. forget everything else
Win = competed hard
Lose = didnt compete hard enough
- senstroll

Nonis' and Leiweke's comments seem to have got them going again. I'm starting to wonder that those guys know what the (frank) they are talking about.

4-2 USA tomorrow

Maybe Bronze for Canada, they lose to USA I think good chance they lose the bronze too
- Garnie

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.

maybe 7? definitely no more than 8
- senstroll

32 wins.... 24 lucky wins??

I thought 5 was high.

Again Carlyle's simplified system of success.. forget everything else
Win = competed hard
Lose = didnt compete hard enough
- senstroll

Not here to defend Carlyle but you can't always blame the coach for every loss and every flat effort. Its fools gold to absolve the players from responsibilty in all this. That said, if you compete harder than the other team you'll often win more games than you lose, but since goalies are part of the game they too can influence the outcome of games regardless of how hard the players in front him compete. Much like a solid team effort can go for naught when a goalie poops the bed. Coaches can only influence the outcome of games so much, and it's not like Carlyle is failing to get the best our of Chara, Weber, Doughty, Crosby, Toews etc.

Im just not sure you can say "Well, Carlyles system failed...that's why they lost the majority of races and battles for the puck."

The blame should be spread between players and coaches when a team loses as should the success when the team wins.

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

Womens hockey.

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

Canada @noon...

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

Canada. Womens.

Edit: Nm. Thanks Yeti and Fruitytits.

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

Canada vs US in the women's final. It's at noon.

Canada. Womens.

Edit: Nm. Thanks Yeti and Fruitytits.
- Gunslinger

Got to love when someone is being a Richard and makes themselves look like an ass instead.

Got to love when someone is being a Richard and makes themselves look like an ass instead.
- Yeti1181

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

Nice work bumhole.

Got to love when someone is being a Richard and makes themselves look like an ass instead.
- Yeti1181

(frank)in A.

Especially when that person is a Sen, Nuck or Sabres fan.

Canada vs US in the women's final. It's at noon.
- weirdoh

Got to love when someone is being a Richard and makes themselves look like an ass instead.
- Yeti1181

Nucks fan

(frank)in A.

Especially when that person is a Sen, Nuck or Sabres fan.
- Gunslinger

Guys Shea Weber is a lot better than Phaneuf
- AdamFrench

Evening my peeps

Nonis' and Leiweke's comments seem to have got them going again. I'm starting to wonder that those guys know what the (frank) they are talking about.
- walshyleafsfan

Well they obviously know how to push the right buttons at the right time. Amen to that for Leaf Nation.

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

Women's hockey scrotum head.

Not here to defend Carlyle but you can't always blame the coach for every loss and every flat effort. Its fools gold to absolve the players from responsibilty in all this. That said, if you compete harder than the other team you'll often win more games than you lose, but since goalies are part of the game they too can influence the outcome of games regardless of how hard the players in front him compete. Much like a solid team effort can go for naught when a goalie poops the bed. Coaches can only influence the outcome of games so much, and it's not like Carlyle is failing to get the best our of Chara, Weber, Doughty, Crosby, Toews etc.

Im just not sure you can say "Well, Carlyles system failed...that's why they lost the majority of races and battles for the puck."

The blame should be spread between players and coaches when a team loses as should the success when the team wins.
- Gunslinger

you know i am not even really talking about winning or losing. the original comment was about getting back to coaching "competing"

Mark Masters ‏@markhmasters 16s
Carlyle identified 3 key areas to work on before season resumes: compete level, d-zone coverage & special teams

the leafs are winning right now...winning a lot actually.
To me its the way the team goes about its business winning or losing..i just dont think Carlyle is the kind of coach for todays players. I think the leafs could be a better team than they are now.

oh and Orr/FML on the 4th line enough of that already

Sweet, who's the US playing tomorrow?

Did they pick up an extra game for fun? As the Can USA game is on Friday.
- moondawg

I'm on your side man. I liked the reply, Garnie deserves everything he gets for his post.

Compete and systems are 2 separate things.
- burn

excellent tell Carlyle

Womens hockey.
- Yeti1181

actually the original post said maybe Canada will win a bronze, so he was talking about mens hockey

who looks like the ass now

Kaillie Humphries. God damn I really dig that.

Kaillie Humphries. God damn I really dig that.



- weirdoh

Thats (frank)ing gross youre (frank)ing gross.