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Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
100% Bubba, you are the simple jack
- ruttager17


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:52 PM ET
Yes, and few of us regret his departure. Whats your point?
- Jeropotato


Point is that quite a few are saying that Horcoff is better than Clarkson but those same couldn't get rid of Horcoff fast enough. Clarkson plays bigger than his size but he is being under untilized in Toronto.

I would love a shot at Yakupov but I don't think the Leafs have all the assets to get him.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:52 PM ET
I haven't seen Time2Produce on here for a while so I went looking....

TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:53 PM ET
Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the majority of Oilers fans willing to drive Horcoff to the airport last season? Clarkson is also 5 years younger than Horcoff
- PatC80


I think most people know that Horcoff and Gordon are very similar. EDM mgmt just thought the best thing for his career would be a new start. Plus 2.5M in cap doesn't hurt
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:54 PM ET
Point is that quite a few are saying that Horcoff is better than Clarkson but those same couldn't get rid of Horcoff fast enough. Clarkson plays bigger than his size but he is being under untilized in Toronto.

I would love a shot at Yakupov but I don't think the Leafs have all the assets to get him.

- PatC80


Well most of us agree that we dodged a bullet with the contract Mac T offered Clarkson, so he likely would suffer the same fate as Horc. You can get paid in Edmonton, but you gotta earn it everyday.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:54 PM ET
Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the majority of Oilers fans willing to drive Horcoff to the airport last season? Clarkson is also 5 years younger than Horcoff
- PatC80

Who cares what some idiot fans wanted to do, doesn't change the facts. Horcoff's problem was that he had a bad contract, which hurt the team cap wise, I think the majority of the intelligent fans were able to recognize he had lots of value at around 3mil per season. Clarkson is getting over 5mil, can you tell me he has earned that thus far this season?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:54 PM ET
Point is that quite a few are saying that Horcoff is better than Clarkson but those same couldn't get rid of Horcoff fast enough. Clarkson plays bigger than his size but he is being under untilized in Toronto.

I would love a shot at Yakupov but I don't think the Leafs have all the assets to get him.

- PatC80


I think if Yak goes, a young top pairing D has to come back the other way. So, no, probably not.
Jeropotato
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Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
I think most people know that Horcoff and Gordon are very similar. EDM mgmt just thought the best thing for his career would be a new start. Plus 2.5M in cap doesn't hurt
- TheNugeIsHuge


Pretty close...but I think Gordon is a bit more tenacious don't you?
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
So how did my response impact your data? I mean, the use of name calling and foul language.
- Jeropotato

it didn't. your initial response was one of confusion as you didn't know what the fAck I was talking about. I will have to collect more data at a later time.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
Who cares what some idiot fans wanted to do, doesn't change the facts. Horcoff's problem was that he had a bad contract, which hurt the team cap wise, I think the majority of the intelligent fans were able to recognize he had lots of value at around 3mil per season. Clarkson is getting over 5mil, can you tell me he has earned that thus far this season?
- ruttager17


Clarkson is the new Horcoff.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
Would u consider Gunnarsson and Clarkson for Petry and Gagner?
- PatC80

Clarkson could certainly help this squad more than gagner can imo.
but that contract is an abortion.

and petry is better than gunnarson

it wasn't a terrible offer by any means, but it's a no
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
Pretty close...but I think Gordon is a bit more tenacious don't you?
- Jeropotato


Ya i'd say so. I think Gordon'll do anything to win a face-off or stop a goal
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 9:58 PM ET
Who cares what some idiot fans wanted to do, doesn't change the facts. Horcoff's problem was that he had a bad contract, which hurt the team cap wise, I think the majority of the intelligent fans were able to recognize he had lots of value at around 3mil per season. Clarkson is getting over 5mil, can you tell me he has earned that thus far this season?
- ruttager17

Definitely has not deserved it.. not even close, but some of that can be attributed to suspensions/injuries/not being used properly
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
What the (frank) is the " simple jack", jabroni?
- Jeropotato


ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
I haven't seen Time2Produce on here for a while so I went looking....


- Jeropotato

The fat one got tired out punching him, then it looks like he broke, or separated the dudes collar bone. Stupid people doing stupid things makes me happy that Darwinism will happen to them some day.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:01 PM ET
I think if Yak goes, a young top pairing D has to come back the other way. So, no, probably not.
- TheNugeIsHuge


I assume u mean Rielly ?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 18 @ 10:01 PM ET
Definitely has not deserved it.. not even close, but some of that can be attributed to suspensions/injuries/not being used properly
- PatC80

I could deal with that contract presently if he was bringin grit and physicality along with some skill to the top 6.

the last couple years of that contract are gonna be horrid tho
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
Definitely has not deserved it.. not even close, but some of that can be attributed to suspensions/injuries/not being used properly
- PatC80


So is EDM expected to look only at the positives of him coming to EDM? Ignore that he may never have over 30-35P in his 6 more seasons at a crazy cap hit and hope for the best? His value's crazy low right now
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:03 PM ET
I assume u mean Rielly ?
- PatC80


Rielly's not a top pairing Dman yet and may never be, who knows. He doesn't really help EDM now

I mean a bonafide top pairing D. Likely older than 21-22
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
What the (frank) is the " simple jack", jabroni?
- Jeropotato


Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
I haven't seen Time2Produce on here for a while so I went looking....


- Jeropotato


You should have been here this morning! He was spewing some ridiculous poop and calling Morris out!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
Rielly's not a top pairing Dman yet and may never be, who knows. He doesn't really help EDM now

I mean a bonafide top pairing D. Likely older than 21-22

- TheNugeIsHuge


The only "top pairing" Dman is Phaneuf and based off of scientific analysis no one wants him.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
Definitely has not deserved it.. not even close, but some of that can be attributed to suspensions/injuries/not being used properly
- PatC80

Oh for sure. I can't comment about him not being used properly as I don't watch a lot of leafs games. We hear a lot about not being used properly in regards to guys like Omark Injuries are always a risk, but he is accountable for his suspension, so can chalk that up to him not being worth the money. But that is what happens to UFA's these days. They get paid.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
The only "top pairing" Dman is Phaneuf and based off of scientific analysis no one wants him.
- PatC80


I'd like Phaneuf in EDM. Just not at the cost of Yak
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
I think most people know that Horcoff and Gordon are very similar. EDM mgmt just thought the best thing for his career would be a new start. Plus 2.5M in cap doesn't hurt
- TheNugeIsHuge


Similar but Gordo is cheaper and younger.


I don't get the Clarkson thing. With his contract he better be top 6. And on the Oilers he wouldn't be. We just got rid of an over paid 3C. Why would we want to add a 3LW with a horrid contract.
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