If it's Wayne's then yes. You could put it in an incubator then 18 years from now the Oilers would finally have that missing piece.

Seriously guys. It's time to do something bold like Burke would do and that means making an unpopular move that usually ends up working.

Mac T's "bold" moves are only seen in his emails to Kevin. I feel sorry for Oiler fans.
- therealagent

getting rid of Dubnyk and trading for Scrivens doesn't classify as "bold"

Picks can be had cheap, and free agency is always ripe with depth guys. Just for once I would like to an offer for one of the kids that actually includes a player we legitimately covet.
- Jeropotato

I'd love a blockbuster with Columbus, they've got some great pieces. Maybe something surrounding Eberle, Petry + high pick/prospect for Dubinsky, Tyutin, Foligno?

Yeah, I won't disrespect a team for being solid for 5 years and didn't win it all. At least they went for it. Sometimes I think teams like San Jose and St.Louis (in the 90's) seem satisfied with being good enough to make the playoff's year in and year out and can hopefully win a round.
Team like Dallas and Carolina went all in and were rewarded with both a Stanley Cup and a lengthy drought after, but to me, it is worth it.

Having said that, I do not consider Vancouver a model franchise. That would be Ken Holland's Detroit, and Vancouver is not, was not, and is a long way from being Detroit.
- Jeropotato

Just in terms of entertainment value, the likes of the 100 point Sedins, Kesler, Erhoff, Lou, etc etc etc.

That 2011 team was some of the best hockey i have ever witnessed in the last 10-15 years of my hockey fandom.

To call it pathetic is down right ignorant, spiteful and most importantly resentful.

Yeah, this RealAgent is more or less just a RealImbecile for continuing to fight a point that clearly makes zero sense to the short and long term health of our franchise.
- Jeropotato

you are the realagent

I'd love a blockbuster with Columbus, they've got some great pieces. Maybe something surrounding Eberle, Petry + high pick/prospect for Dubinsky, Tyutin, Foligno?
- Morris

Negative on the Columbus deal

Would u consider Gunnarsson and Clarkson for Petry and Gagner?
- PatC80

Petry>Gunnarsson
Gagner>Clarkson

Not even mentioning Clarkson's contract, EDM still loses

getting rid of Dubnyk and trading for Scrivens doesn't classify as "bold"
- TheNugeIsHuge

I think "Bold" has been way taken out of context. I always thought Mac T was expressing his assessment of Tambo not being willing to even try to improve the team. That was my impression.
Of course, defining "Bold" as "Astronomical"," franchise altering", or "insane" is much more fun for media and message board posters alike.

Petry>Gunnarsson
Gagner>Clarkson

Not even mentioning Clarkson's contract, EDM still loses
- TheNugeIsHuge

I'd say Petry = Gunnarsson. Both are lanky with good stickwork, decent skating, low offensive ceiling and not physical enough for around 3 million per sometime in the next 2 years.

you are the realagent
- Morris

Oh, I see what you did there you clever bastard.

Petry>Gunnarsson
Gagner>Clarkson

Not even mentioning Clarkson's contract, EDM still loses
- TheNugeIsHuge

Wrong.
Wrong.

Oh, I see what you did there you clever bastard.
- Jeropotato

yeah it should be "0% Bubba. You are the realagent"

Would u consider Gunnarsson and Clarkson for Petry and Gagner?
- PatC80

no

Why does Petry keep getting included in trade proposal ideas? I'd rather keep him over J Schultz. The guy's a solid 2nd pairing guy on the right side. When EDM has a top pairing, people'll see how effective he can be when he's not constantly against the opposition's top lines.

why do you think he's my display pic? stud

Just in terms of entertainment value, the likes of the 100 point Sedins, Kesler, Erhoff, Lou, etc etc etc.

That 2011 team was some of the best hockey i have ever witnessed in the last 10-15 years of my hockey fandom.

To call it pathetic is down right ignorant, spiteful and most importantly resentful.
- Whiskey-Tango

I have never been a fan of the Canucks, but I hated them for the same reason I hated Dallas in the late 90's. Because they were that good.
And I enjoyed cheering against them in the playoff's over the past few years as well.

Why does Petry keep getting included in trade proposal ideas? I'd rather keep him over J Schultz. The guy's a solid 2nd pairing guy on the right side. When EDM has a top pairing, people'll see how effective he can be when he's not constantly against the opposition's top lines.

why do you think he's my display pic? stud
- TheNugeIsHuge

I include him because to me he carries value. I'd rather not trade him, but he's one of those pieces that helps you get what you want without giving up a bigger piece.

yeah it should be "0% Bubba. You are the realagent"
- Morris

Good idea. From now on when someone goes full retard on a post that will be my response.

Wrong.
Wrong.
- Whiskey-Tango

Closer to Petry = Gunnarsson.

If you take both players' contract into account, Gagner has FAR more value than Clarkson. Clarkson has the same (or even less) value as Horcoff did after he signed his big contract.

Wrong.
Wrong.
- Whiskey-Tango

Really? Why do you say that? Let's face it, Clarkson sucks. New Jersey didn't even bother trying to negotiate with that guy for a reason.
And Petry is one the most underrated and miscast players in the NHL.

Wrong.
Wrong.
- Whiskey-Tango

Convince me otherwise.

Clarkson has 10P and is getting 5.25M. Gagner was 16th in C scoring last season and 5 years younger.

Gunnarsson and Petry are close. Although when Gunnarsson is on the ice, the other team gets 56.5% of the shots. Maybe he'd be more effective playing lesser comp than the toughs he currently does. I think most would agree Petry is a greater threat in the offensive end

Just in terms of entertainment value, the likes of the 100 point Sedins, Kesler, Erhoff, Lou, etc etc etc.

That 2011 team was some of the best hockey i have ever witnessed in the last 10-15 years of my hockey fandom.

To call it pathetic is down right ignorant, spiteful and most importantly resentful.
- Whiskey-Tango

Actually it was more hilarious than anything. If buddy wants to come here and troll the Oil, then he should expect it back, and ya shouldn't come here and get all sensitive and butthurt because of what those two were discussing. But pretentious and entitled are synonymous with being a Casucks fan these days

I'd say Petry = Gunnarsson. Both are lanky with good stickwork, decent skating, low offensive ceiling and not physical enough for around 3 million per sometime in the next 2 years.
- Morris

Clarkson would be the big, physical top 6 or 9 winger that has been to a Cup final and does bring leadership abilities. Gunnar & Petry are equal.

I include him because to me he carries value. I'd rather not trade him, but he's one of those pieces that helps you get what you want without giving up a bigger piece.
- Morris

I'm not sure he carries a lot of value. Like Jero said, he's seriously underrated. Easily EDM's best Dman in my mind. J Schultz must be worth a good amount and I'm losing faith in him. Play him with a decent partner or package him for someone better

Convince me otherwise.

Clarkson has 10P and is getting 5.25M. Gagner was 16th in C scoring last season and 5 years younger.

Gunnarsson and Petry are close. Although when Gunnarsson is on the ice, the other team gets 56.5% of the shots. Maybe he'd be more effective playing lesser comp than the toughs he currently does. I think most would agree Petry is a greater threat in the offensive end
- TheNugeIsHuge

Clarkso didn't want to stay in new jersey and he is being miscast in toronto

Clarkson would be the big, physical top 6 or 9 winger that has been to a Cup final and does bring leadership abilities. Gunnar & Petry are equal.
- PatC80

Clarkson'd be 11th in EDM's F scoring and at 5.25M until he's 36

Clarkson would be the big, physical top 6 or 9 winger that has been to a Cup final and does bring leadership abilities. Gunnar & Petry are equal.
- PatC80

No body is saying that Clarkson would not be useful, but how much more useful would he be than say , Eric Cole, or Max Talbot, or Steve Downy?