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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
Vancouver will take a guy that's not dead. He can help our PP.
We'll trade you one of our dead guys for one of your dead guys.

- therealagent

Let me guess...hocking Alberta again? No thanks.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
Maata for Hemsky?
- Iggysbff

ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Marincin played 21:01. 3rd in Slovakian D TOI
- TheNugeIsHuge

TheNugeIsHuge keeps listing stats, Longbottom always listed stats. TheNugeIsHuge is Longbottom. Longbottom is TheNugeIsHuge
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Great post.

Hemsky was my fav for a long time on the Oilers.

I know it's probably very unlikely but I hope to see him get 80+ points with the Oilers or without.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Henrick for Hemsky?
- Iggysbff


No. But only because of a technicality. Henrik was spelled incorrectly.

Try Daniel and Henrik

for

2 1sts, Nuge, Hemsky

Edmonton makes the playoffs for the next 4 years guaranteed and for 10 years after the twins retire. Young talent like Hall, Yak, Eberle, Nurse, etc., stay and learn what it takes to be a pro. Canucks rebuild with the picks and have Kes/Nuge/Horvat/Gaunce as their top 4 centers.

done and done.

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
TheNugeIsHuge keeps listing stats, Longbottom always listed stats. TheNugeIsHuge is Longbottom. Longbottom is TheNugeIsHuge
- ruttager17

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:39 PM ET
No. But only because of a technicality. Henrik was spelled incorrectly.

Try Daniel and Henrik

for

2 1sts, Nuge, Hemsky

Edmonton makes the playoffs for the next 4 years guaranteed and for 10 years after the twins retire. Young talent like Hall, Yak, Eberle, Nurse, etc., stay and learn what it takes to be a pro. Canucks rebuild with the picks and have Kes/Nuge/Horvat/Gaunce as their top 4 centers.

done and done.

- therealagent

TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
No. But only because of a technicality. Henrik was spelled incorrectly.

Try Daniel and Henrik

for

2 1sts, Nuge, Hemsky

Edmonton makes the playoffs for the next 4 years guaranteed and for 10 years after the twins retire. Young talent like Hall, Yak, Eberle, Nurse, etc., stay and learn what it takes to be a pro. Canucks rebuild with the picks and have Kes/Nuge/Horvat/Gaunce as their top 4 centers.

done and done.

- therealagent


I'd burn rexall to the ground
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
No. But only because of a technicality. Henrik was spelled incorrectly.

Try Daniel and Henrik

for

2 1sts, Nuge, Hemsky

Edmonton makes the playoffs for the next 4 years guaranteed and for 10 years after the twins retire. Young talent like Hall, Yak, Eberle, Nurse, etc., stay and learn what it takes to be a pro. Canucks rebuild with the picks and have Kes/Nuge/Horvat/Gaunce as their top 4 centers.

done and done.

- therealagent

How does getting 2 players who don't show up when it matters help us at all?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
Matt Henderson: Ales Hemsky: Not Dead Yet
- Matt_Henderson

I like Hemsky, but the time has come for us to move in a different direction.

I felt that way during the summer, and even though Hemmer has had a quietly solid year, I feel like if one of Horcs and Hemmer should have moved, it should have been Hemmer.

Hindsight is 20/20, and I wish Hem luck
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:43 PM ET
my point is that pittsburgh needs toughness, grit and scoring ability in a single player. hemsky is not that player so he doesn't solve the penguins need. he does however solve a need for teams like chicago and san jose.

i was not comparing hemsky to jumbo and neither should you.

- therealagent


my point is you can't ignore their strengths. Thornton had 22G in 2006-07. Doesn't sound too impressive as I didn't mention his 92 assists. Hemsky's not a goal scorer. Playmaker!

but I get where you're coming from
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'd burn rexall to the ground
- TheNugeIsHuge


Not before the Sedins rebuild it and donate millions to local charities.

This is the type of deal Edmonton needs to make to bring in leadership and to take pressure off of the kids so they can develop.

Sub someone for Nuge if you want but without this kind of deal, Edmonton quickly becomes the Islanders, Panthers, etc..

I'll add that I want the Oilers to be successful. I hate the fact the kids are subjected to losing. This should be team canada's future and it's getting ruined. What a waste not just for Edmonton but for Canada.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
No. But only because of a technicality. Henrik was spelled incorrectly.

Try Daniel and Henrik

for

2 1sts, Nuge, Hemsky

Edmonton makes the playoffs for the next 4 years guaranteed and for 10 years after the twins retire. Young talent like Hall, Yak, Eberle, Nurse, etc., stay and learn what it takes to be a pro. Canucks rebuild with the picks and have Kes/Nuge/Horvat/Gaunce as their top 4 centers.

done and done.

- therealagent

And then the Oil have to rebuild again in 4 years when the Sedin Sisters are done and ready to retire?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
Not before the Sedins rebuild it and donate millions to local charities.

This is the type of deal Edmonton needs to make to bring in leadership and to take pressure off of the kids so they can develop.

Sub someone for Nuge if you want but without this kind of deal, Edmonton quickly becomes the Islanders, Panthers, etc..

- therealagent


Henrik and Daniel have maybe 4-5 years left in them, of probably the worst hockey they'll play since pre-2005 lockout. Not to mention they're not even producing very well right now. Perron and Hall have more points on the left side than Daniel, wouldn't need him at all. Henrik'd be a nice addition, but again, for what 3 years? before he's on the 3rd line.

all of this while giving up their 1C, Ekblad/Bennett, and another 1st? They wouldn't magically start making the playoffs. Their problem is no top pairing D. Sisters' won't fix that
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:49 PM ET
I'd burn rexall to the ground
- TheNugeIsHuge

A lot of people would benefit from this
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
Not before the Sedins rebuild it and donate millions to local charities.

This is the type of deal Edmonton needs to make to bring in leadership and to take pressure off of the kids so they can develop.

Sub someone for Nuge if you want but without this kind of deal, Edmonton quickly becomes the Islanders, Panthers, etc..

I'll add that I want the Oilers to be successful. I hate the fact the kids are subjected to losing. This should be team canada's future and it's getting ruined. What a waste not just for Edmonton but for Canada.

- therealagent


Yeah.....good attempt.....

But move along before someone thinks youre serious...
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
Not before the Sedins rebuild it and donate millions to local charities.

This is the type of deal Edmonton needs to make to bring in leadership and to take pressure off of the kids so they can develop.

Sub someone for Nuge if you want but without this kind of deal, Edmonton quickly becomes the Islanders, Panthers, etc..

I'll add that I want the Oilers to be successful. I hate the fact the kids are subjected to losing. This should be team canada's future and it's getting ruined. What a waste not just for Edmonton but for Canada.

- therealagent

Don't see why we can't make a deal for a veteran defenseman who provides both leadership and fills a hole.

Sedins may change the culture, but they don't change the skillset tremendously.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:54 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel have maybe 4-5 years left in them, of probably the worst hockey they'll play since pre-2005 lockout. Not to mention they're not even producing very well right now. Perron and Hall have more points on the left side than Daniel, wouldn't need him at all. Henrik'd be a nice addition, but again, for what 3 years? before he's on the 3rd line.

all of this while giving up their 1C, Ekblad/Bennett, and another 1st? They wouldn't magically start making the playoffs. Their problem is no top pairing D. Sisters' won't fix that

- TheNugeIsHuge

Clearly he realizes the window for the Casucks is closing and almost shut, hence why wanting to get rid of the sisters for top draft picks and a guy like Nuge.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 3:56 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel have maybe 4-5 years left in them, of probably the worst hockey they'll play since pre-2005 lockout. Not to mention they're not even producing very well right now. Perron and Hall have more points on the left side than Daniel, wouldn't need him at all. Henrik'd be a nice addition, but again, for what 3 years? before he's on the 3rd line.

all of this while giving up their 1C, Ekblad/Bennett, and another 1st? They wouldn't magically start making the playoffs. Their problem is no top pairing D. Sisters' won't fix that

- TheNugeIsHuge

No, he'd be on the top line till he retires as the team wouldn't have anyone better after trading Nuge and possibly Bennett/Reinhart.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 18 @ 3:56 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel have maybe 4-5 years left in them, of probably the worst hockey they'll play since pre-2005 lockout. Not to mention they're not even producing very well right now. Perron and Hall have more points on the left side than Daniel, wouldn't need him at all. Henrik'd be a nice addition, but again, for what 3 years? before he's on the 3rd line.

all of this while giving up their 1C, Ekblad/Bennett, and another 1st? They wouldn't magically start making the playoffs. Their problem is no top pairing D. Sisters' won't fix that

- TheNugeIsHuge

We're on pace to have 1 PPG forward and three more at over 55 points (5 more forwards over 30 points, too). In the modern NHL, with competent goaltending and defense, that should get you to the playoffs.

Adding 70 point Sedins should not be the priority.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Feb 18 @ 3:58 PM ET
I'd burn rexall to the ground
- TheNugeIsHuge



ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
We're on pace to have 1 PPG forward and three more at over 55 points (5 more forwards over 30 points, too). In the modern NHL, with competent goaltending and defense, that should get you to the playoffs.

Adding 70 point Sedins should not be the priority.

- Morris

Plus they are Gingers that embarrass all gingers, and we don't need any help in that department. They are the worst of the worst.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
Clearly he realizes the window for the Casucks is closing and almost shut, hence why wanting to get rid of the sisters for top draft picks and a guy like Nuge.
- ruttager17

They might get 1sts, top 6 forwards and veterans from some teams but not from Edmonton.

Here's a trade:
Phoenix trades Maxi Domi, Antoine Vermette, a 1st and a 2nd for Henrik, Daniel and Janik Hansen
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Feb 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
We're on pace to have 1 PPG forward and three more at over 55 points (5 more forwards over 30 points, too). In the modern NHL, with competent goaltending and defense, that should get you to the playoffs.

Adding 70 point Sedins should not be the priority.

- Morris



There you go again quashing another man's dreams...
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 18 @ 4:07 PM ET
The Henrik/Daniel trade proposals are going to increase from Nucks fans exponentially from here on out. The window has closed and moving them is the best thing they could do, but it isn't happening.

And if it did, the Oilers definitely wouldn't give up Nuge for them.
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