i'm not even gonna bother trying, but i'm sure there are worse........for example, calgary.

they are, WITHOUT DOUBT, the worst drafting team in teh last 5 years. the leafs probably have less also, but they also traded away picks for kessel. i think the rangers probably have less...........i'm sure there are more, that's just off the top of my head.
- sensarmy_11

Carl Hagelin, Derek Stepan, Michael Del Zotto and Chris Kreider

Nazem Kadri and Luke Schenn

I mean its pretty close, all i know is there is a huge delusion on the Pens ability to draft. They are one of if not the worst at it over the past 6 years.

dont forget they also traded up in that draft to get A goalie as well
- bschmigel

obviously the pens did more than just draft crosby and malkin.......just like the oilers have made some other solid moves as well.

i think the biggest difference, and the reason why the pens had so much success early, was that the second malkin and crosby stepped foot on NHL ice as 18/19 year olds, they were already among the NHL elite, and able to make their teammates better.

edmonton didn't have any players of that calibre, even though they were still good players. the guys teh oil took need more time to develop. i do think they will be a damn scary team in the near future, similar to the way the pens are right now.

I guess the Wild play the Sens after the Olympic Break. Matt Cooke is getting ready

Carl Hagelin, Derek Stepan, Michael Del Zotto and Chris Kreider

Nazem Kadri and Luke Schenn
I mean its pretty close, all i know is there is a huge delusion on the Pens ability to draft. They are one of if not the worst at it over the past 6 years.
- Mentalorgasm5

I'm sure if the Pens had 2 top 10 picks they would have played, especially in the last 5 years.

Carl Hagelin, Derek Stepan, Michael Del Zotto and Chris Kreider

Nazem Kadri and Luke Schenn

I mean its pretty close, all i know is there is a huge delusion on the Pens ability to draft. They are one of if not the worst at it over the past 6 years.
- Mentalorgasm5

You're way off base

You're way off base
- Deadstar

no not really.

Hey I remember that guy! He came back just in time last year for this...


- Killian

congrats on the win................it was incredible, you almost never see a 1 seed knock off a 7 seed.

also, although i shouldn't be surpried that you can't count, a sweep is 4 games, not 5.

Jeff Carter blew by him yesterday too.
- sbroads24

The Carter "blow by" was a bit overdone, Carter had a lot of forward momentum and the wider rink allowed for that to happen.

I'm sure if the Pens had 2 top 10 picks they would have played, especially in the last 5 years.
- sbroads24

I wouldnt count on it. When they had their 5 top picks in the five year period they selected to no brainers in crosby and malkin, and than staal, who has been alright, ryan whitney, nothing special, and fleury, who has been serviceable.

congrats on the win................it was incredible, you almost never see a 1 seed knock off a 7 seed.

also, although i shouldn't be surpried that you can't count, a sweep is 4 games, not 5.
- sensarmy_11

I think the broom was included just to give insight as to his occupation.

no not really.
- Mentalorgasm5

Kadri and Schenn were top 10 picks. And you're using Schenn as an example of good drafting at the 5th overall pick? I feel like that alone invalidates your opinion.

The Penguins haven't been great at drafting. But they also have been picking late every round as of late or just not had a lot of picks to work with. The prospect pool is pretty impressive all things considered.

Hockey worth? Let's see I've been alive for and witnessed each of my Teams 3 Stanley Cups. I've kissed the Stanley Cup, I've met Mario Lemieux and he signed my back of my jersey for me. What else could a hockey fan possibly want to accomplish?
- Killian

Uve Met a real life hockey player!!?impressive.

congrats on the win................it was incredible, you almost never see a 1 seed knock off a 7 seed.

also, although i shouldn't be surpried that you can't count, a sweep is 4 games, not 5.
- sensarmy_11

Oh, I appolgize for not remembering that you won a game. Sorry, I was in Jamaica at the time. My bad

I think the broom was included just to give insight as to his occupation.
- MadCap2008

really, you'd see him in something as difficult as "janatorial staff"........you really think someone would trust him with keys?

Kadri and Schenn were top 10 picks. And you're using Schenn as an example of good drafting at the 5th overall pick? I feel like that alone invalidates your opinion.

The Penguins haven't been great at drafting. But they also have been picking late every round as of late or just not had a lot of picks to work with. The prospect pool is pretty impressive all things considered.
- Deadstar

They werent that great at it when they had top picks either. See my above post.

Uve Met a real life hockey player!!?impressive.
- hugefemale dog77

I'm certain the pleasure was all Lemieux's.

Oh, I appolgize for not remembering that you won a game. Sorry, I was in Jamaica at the time. My bad
- Killian

well that's why the pens didn't win last year................if someone as integral to the team's success as you was in another country..............man, are the hawks ever lucky you weren't around last year.

It's gotta be an act.
- Morris

I hope so anyways... Wow

They werent that great at it when they had top picks either. See my above post.
- Mentalorgasm5

So now you are using top 10 picks from a previous GM's tenure that ended 8 years ago to compare the Penguins drafting ability? Brilliant.

Kadri and Schenn were top 10 picks. And you're using Schenn as an example of good drafting at the 5th overall pick? I feel like that alone invalidates your opinion.

The Penguins haven't been great at drafting. But they also have been picking late every round as of late or just not had a lot of picks to work with. The prospect pool is pretty impressive all things considered.
- Deadstar

i agree, i think the pens probably have the best D prospect pool in the leauge.....if not the best, then pretty damn close.

come on guys, no sense in having a battle of wits with an opponent who's clearly unarmed.
- sensarmy_11

There was never any battle.
He's been our punching bag from the start. He just doesn't know it. Which makes it even more fun

One of my new favourite posters

I'm certain the pleasure was all Lemieux's.
- MadCap2008

You couldn't find an ex-capital to put in the same book as Lemieux, let alone the same sentence.

So now you are using top 10 picks from a previous GM's tenure that ended 8 years ago to compare the Penguins drafting ability? Brilliant.
- Deadstar

Well you can clearly see this group is not that great at it either. Substitute Crosby with Hopkins and Malkin with Yakapov, and the Pens are a bottom dwelling team. They got lucky being bad the two years they were.

Someone is gonna rag on Edm when they are a Pitt fan about drafting is clearly clueless when if they had a half of a cent thought, they could see the Pens have been pretty bad at it themselves.

I'm certain the pleasure was all Lemieux's.
- MadCap2008

This Guy does sound pretty awesome

There was never any battle.
He's been our punching bag from the start. He just doesn't know it. Which makes it even more fun

One of my new favourite posters
- hugefemale dog77[/img]

Somewhere on HB I'm sure that there's a 55 year-old Blackhawks fan who's been alive for three cups (two more recent than Pittsburgh's last) and thus beats Kilian at his own game. Not sure where to find such a troll-buster though...