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Ondrej F
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Prague
Joined: 02.17.2010

Feb 17 @ 9:18 AM ET
Was he the one who blocked a shot on basically a wide open net?
- jmatchett383

Yes.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 9:36 AM ET

- 2Real


Cal Heeter apparently left the bench, wonder if he gets suspended.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Jesus. I'm thinking it was a knee by the Phantoms? It looked like the hit was a bit off-center, but they panned away.
Edit: Box score indicates a high stick.

Also, good on Clarkie (well, okay, McGinn) for giving him the business. How those 2 players got loose to jump him is beyond me.

- jmatchett383


There had to be stuff that happened earlier. Heeter is going to get an automatic 10 gamer for leaving the bench. There will be a number of suspensions I think. Terry Murray will probably get suspended too.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
Cal Heeter apparently left the bench, wonder if he gets suspended.
- Jsaquella


In the NHL its automatic 10 games. Thats what happened with Clarkson.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 17 @ 9:44 AM ET
In the NHL its automatic 10 games. Thats what happened with Clarkson.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, I'm not sure if it's the same in the AHL or not. I know a lot of the rules are the same, to try and create uniformity
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 17 @ 9:46 AM ET

- 2Real

flashback...flyers from the 70s and 80s
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:49 AM ET
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's the same in the AHL or not. I know a lot of the rules are the same, to try and create uniformity
- Jsaquella


Regardless of the rule, Heeter will be suspended. You can bank on it.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 17 @ 9:52 AM ET
Mez had a stellar game saving block in overtime.
- missingmike

I have to agree. Mez had an awesome overtime!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
Regardless of the rule, Heeter will be suspended. You can bank on it.
- PhillySportsGuy


Heeter must have thought with the Goalie pulled that they were out manned. But with the extra attacker it was even.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:07 AM ET
Heeter must have thought with the Goalie pulled that they were out manned. But with the extra attacker it was even.
- MJL


Im pretty sure he can count. I think it had more to do with goalies only being allowed to fight other goalies as an unwritten rule. Players aren't supposed to fight goalies because its much easier to punch without all of that padding.

Heeter shouldn't have left the bench. Its not a big deal as the Phantoms won't be making the playoffs anyway.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
In the NHL its automatic 10 games. Thats what happened with Clarkson.
- PhillySportsGuy


Heeter came off the bench twice - does that mean 20 games
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
Im pretty sure he can count. I think it had more to do with goalies only being allowed to fight other goalies as an unwritten rule. Players aren't supposed to fight goalies because its much easier to punch without all of that padding.

Heeter shouldn't have left the bench. Its not a big deal as the Phantoms won't be making the playoffs anyway.

- PhillySportsGuy


Ray Emery has fought both Andrew Peters (Sabres/Sens brawl) and Peter Vandermeer (Adirondack/Binghamton). But then again, it's Ray Emery.

Edit: AHL Suspension is 3 games...maybe.
http://theahl.com/ahl-announces-suspension-p189641

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. … The American Hockey League today announced that Bridgeport Sound Tigers right wing Justin Johnson has been suspended a total of six (6) games as a consequence of his actions in a game at Norfolk on Jan. 4.

Johnson received an automatic three-game suspension under the provisions of AHL Rule 46.11 for accumulating his fifth instigating misconduct this season. In addition, Johnson was suspended three games under the provisions of AHL Rule 28.1 (supplementary discipline) as a consequence of leaving the players’ bench on a legal line change for the purpose of starting an altercation.

Seeing as I don't think they'd count it as a "legal line change" I'm not sure.

Edit Edit: It's 6 games (Shaw got that in November of 2012).
http://theahl.com/ahl-ann...unces-suspensions-p180146

Rockford IceHogs right wing Andrew Shaw has been suspended for six (6) games as a consequence of his actions in a game vs. Lake Erie on Nov. 3. Shaw was assessed a game misconduct for leaving the players’ bench for the purpose of starting an altercation.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 10:30 AM ET
I would like the NHL to give 3 points for regulation wins like they do in the Olympics. Teams like the Capitals and Leafs get too much benefit from being good at the skills competition.
The_Universe
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Soviet Russia
Joined: 02.11.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:31 AM ET
May have missed this, but what are the thoughts on Panotch's article (if you want to call it that) on not moving Morin in a deal for Weber? Personally I'd move just about anything except G/Voracek/Simmonds for Weber. Morin could be a monster, but still a big question mark. Either way, it's worth going out and getting Weber now that it appears Nashville COULD move him.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:32 AM ET
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 17 @ 10:32 AM ET

- 2Real

Yup, that's the Flyers AHL team, alright. It's actually pretty cool that the benches are on opposite sides of the rink.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
May have missed this, but what are the thoughts on Panotch's article (if you want to call it that) on not moving Morin in a deal for Weber? Personally I'd move just about anything except G/Voracek/Simmonds for Weber. Morin could be a monster, but still a big question mark. Either way, it's worth going out and getting Weber now that it appears Nashville COULD move him.
- The_Universe


They Flyers were willing to trade the firsts that were essentially Morin plus the next 3 for him. Since then, all he's done is produce at the same rate. Outside of a package containing Giroux or Couturier, I'd be okay having Morin or anyone included, although Simmonds would be hard to part with (he'd have to be a centerpiece of the deal, not an "also.").

Weber will never be a Flyer.
- Pixote Andolini


And this, sadly.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:36 AM ET
May have missed this, but what are the thoughts on Panotch's article (if you want to call it that) on not moving Morin in a deal for Weber? Personally I'd move just about anything except G/Voracek/Simmonds for Weber. Morin could be a monster, but still a big question mark. Either way, it's worth going out and getting Weber now that it appears Nashville COULD move him.
- The_Universe


Weber will never be a Flyer.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:37 AM ET

- Pixote Andolini

this is amazing
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
never mind
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:40 AM ET
never mind
- jmatchett383

Whoa man! You quoted me into a post that occurred before I even posted!
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:40 AM ET
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 17 @ 10:41 AM ET
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 17 @ 10:42 AM ET

- Pixote Andolini

If you watch closely, you'll see that Simmonds actually made the whole stadium do a flip around him, and he remained straight up the whole time.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
They Flyers were willing to trade the firsts that were essentially Morin plus the next 3 for him. Since then, all he's done is produce at the same rate. Outside of a package containing Giroux or Couturier, I'd be okay having Morin or anyone included, although Simmonds would be hard to part with (he'd have to be a centerpiece of the deal, not an "also.").



And this, sadly.

- jmatchett383



thank god
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