Who else fits onto that list?
- jmatchett383

of players who perform under their talent?

and thats a shame.
- stayinthefnnet

Every player has a limit to their game. I don't think that Carter is capable of being more then he is as a player.

Of course not. Good ol' High and Wide created many an odd-man rush against the Flyers.
- jmatchett383

oh god i can't count how many times

Every player has a limit to their game. I don't think that Carter is capable of being more then he is as a player.
- MJL

and thats where i respectfully think our evaluations diverge

he is not an awful player by any means. however, i will still content that given his skill set, he is not as good as he should be. this by all means isnt a short list of players to suffer from the same thing, but it is how i feel. he doesnt strike me as one who creates much for himself, let alone for others. im also probably a little biased against him because of his attitude with the columbus situation as well.
- stayinthefnnet

Snipers gonna snipe. That's his job. His job is to be created for and convert. Not a bad role if you're suited for it. Flyers have too many guys determined to set others up, at this point.

He was childish about Columbus.

and thats where i respectfully think our evaluations diverge
- stayinthefnnet

That's pretty obvious. Just out of curiosity, where do you think Carter's results fall short of his talent level?

he's softer than tissue on the puck and likes to shoot the puck into the goalie instead of the wide open net
- 2Real

I guess about 30 times a year the goalie jumps out of the way.

I guess about 30 times a year the goalie jumps out of the way.
- bodiva88

more like 15 times a year and the other 15 are ENG

How didn't Giroux make this team? How
- Winning

He wasn't good enough

He wasn't good enough
- ob18

you mean with all those points he scored

That's pretty obvious. Just out of curiosity, where do you think Carter's results fall short of his talent level?
- MJL

for his size he is incredibly soft. the defensive skills i know he has seemed to be displayed way too inconsistently. and for large stretches, unless he was being fed a puck, he disappeared. i love james neal, but thats what pretty much describes him as a player. i think carter is, well at least should be, a better player than neal, who is fairly one dimensional

For those who may have wanted or liked this kid......this says stay away

@sunayas Sarnia d-man Anthony DeAngelo suspended 8 games for violating OHL's harassment & abuse/ diversity policy.

you mean with all those points he scored
- 2Real

Yeah he's terrible, who would want him to represent their country

For those who may have wanted or liked this kid......this says stay away

@sunayas Sarnia d-man Anthony DeAngelo suspended 8 games for violating OHL's harassment & abuse/ diversity policy.
- ob18

from play sports i can tell you this happens all the time only problem is he got caught
non news

Yeah he's terrible, who would want him to represent their country
- ob18

i sure as hell wouldn't want him representing my country we're not a bunch of weak faeries

for his size he is incredibly soft. the defensive skills i know he has seemed to be displayed way too inconsistently. and for large stretches, unless he was being fed a puck, he disappeared. i love james neal, but thats what pretty much describes him as a player. i think carter is, well at least should be, a better player than neal, who is fairly one dimensional
- stayinthefnnet

at least we have cooter who is actually learning to use his body

from play sports i can tell you this happens all the time only problem is he got caught
non news
- 2Real

It's alarming for some teams I'm sure. He also was suspended for 5 games not to long ago.

at least we have cooter who is actually learning to use his body
- 2Real

you guys have a lot of good talent. its just not currently the right mix

for his size he is incredibly soft. the defensive skills i know he has seemed to be displayed way too inconsistently. and for large stretches, unless he was being fed a puck, he disappeared. i love james neal, but thats what pretty much describes him as a player. i think carter is, well at least should be, a better player than neal, who is fairly one dimensional
- stayinthefnnet

Well the Jeff Carter I watch play is not that player. He may not throw a lot of hits around, but he is no where near soft. He's a very strong player on the puck, and very strong down the wing with the puck. And his defensive game is solid. A player who is incredibly soft, is inconsistent defensively, and disappears for large stretches wouldn't have made Team Canada. So I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

If it wasn't for Neal's disgusting lack of discipline at times, I'd love to have him on my team. Really good player.

Well the Jeff Carter I watch play is not that player. He may not throw a lot of hits around, but he is no where near soft. He's a very strong player on the puck, and very strong down the wing with the puck. And his defensive game is solid. A player who is incredibly soft, is inconsistent defensively, and disappears for large stretches wouldn't have made Team Canada. So I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

If it wasn't for Neal's disgusting lack of discipline at times, I'd love to have him on my team. Really good player.
- MJL

sure he can his name is jeff carter

sure he can his name is jeff carter
- 2Real

boom

How didn't Giroux make this team? How
- Winning

He would've been fun to watch on the big ice surface, but I'm not upset that he didn't go.

Well the Jeff Carter I watch play is not that player. He may not throw a lot of hits around, but he is no where near soft. He's a very strong player on the puck, and very strong down the wing with the puck. And his defensive game is solid. A player who is incredibly soft, is inconsistent defensively, and disappears for large stretches wouldn't have made Team Canada. So I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

If it wasn't for Neal's disgusting lack of discipline at times, I'd love to have him on my team. Really good player.
- MJL

maybe he has grown from not having to be the guy in LA. i will try to catch him more out west and see, because like i said, this opinion is largely based on a sample size at least a couple years old by now.

and as for neal, yeah the discipline thing bothers me as well. i wont defend it. he is an incredible sniper, but he doesnt provide too much else.

Called it with Carter.
- Pixote Andolini

ya good call those were his first 3 goals since he was named to the team a great addiditon

For those who may have wanted or liked this kid......this says stay away

@sunayas Sarnia d-man Anthony DeAngelo suspended 8 games for violating OHL's harassment & abuse/ diversity policy.
- ob18

isnt he from the area? i could be way off though