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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
I get zero tolerance for the net being off... but that's a freaking huge loophole if the defending team can basically covertly knock it off with impunity.
- Tomahawk


Not crazy about that rule.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
It must hurt Devils fans to see him play like that..
- funmaster18



Flyers should play that Kovy flip on the jumbo repeatedly during the first round of the upcoming draft
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
I think they need to generate a lot more offensive chances going forward if they hope to win Gold.
- MJL

Hard to gauge based on the competition so far. A stomping against a lesser team and a dogfight against an equal opponent. I think the talent is there. They just have to put it all together.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
Flyers should play that Kovy flip on the jumbo repeatedly during the first round of the upcoming draft
- Tomahawk


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
I didn't catch the first Rad penalty, but the second one wasn't bad/dumb, right? Stick in the hands, back checking hard.
- Tomahawk


I thought the second call on Radulov was very weak. As well as that one call against USA, where the Russian player basically tripped over Brown, while Brown had his back to the player. Incidental contact.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
I don't mind shootouts, but allowing the same player to shoot over and over again is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
I get zero tolerance for the net being off... but that's a freaking huge loophole if the defending team can basically covertly knock it off with impunity.
- Tomahawk

For sure. I imagine the IIHF will take another look at the rule once the Olympics are over.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
I thought the second call on Radulov was very weak. As well as that one call against USA, where the Russian player basically tripped over Brown, while Brown had his back to the player. Incidental contact.
- MJL


Weak but I think you out your stick there you open yourself up to weak calls. Ticky tack but after the call against USA before that, I would have been more careful. USA PP was clicking too.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Not crazy about that rule.
- MJL



IMO if they can wave off a goal for net being knocked off via review, they should be able to review whom knocked it off, and either reward a PP or penalty shot if the defending team does it on their own.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
I don't mind shootouts, but allowing the same player to shoot over and over again is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
- PLindbergh31


Totally agree
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
'murica
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
IMO if they can wave off a goal for net being knocked off via review, they should be able to review whom knocked it off, and either reward a PP or penalty shot if the defending team does it on their own.
- Tomahawk


Agree 100%
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
I don't mind shootouts, but allowing the same player to shoot over and over again is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
- PLindbergh31



i liked it because i like oshie but it certainly is strange
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
IMO if they can wave off a goal for net being knocked off via review, they should be able to review whom knocked it off, and either reward a PP or penalty shot if the defending team does it on their own.
- Tomahawk



Agreed. If the net was off causing the goal to be disallowed , I think they should have to review the play and see who knocked it off and if it was intentional. If the defending team knocked it off intentionally, then the goal either counts or the defending team is penalized. If the shooting team knocked it off , goal is waived off and face off comes outside.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
Weak but I think you out your stick there you open yourself up to weak calls. Ticky tack but after the call against USA before that, I would have been more careful. USA PP was clicking too.
- funmaster18


Good points. If he doesn't put his stick there, there is no call. But it just seems that anytime there is a stick at waist level it get's called. Even if it really had no effect on the play. I hate that.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Feb 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
I don't mind shootouts, but allowing the same player to shoot over and over again is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
- PLindbergh31


I think it's a fairness thing. Team with only 1 good player aren't penalized for making it to the shootout against superiorly talented teams.

That is the only reasoning I can think of that would make any sense (although I disagree).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
IMO if they can wave off a goal for net being knocked off via review, they should be able to review whom knocked it off, and either reward a PP or penalty shot if the defending team does it on their own.
- Tomahawk


Yup. Quick knocked the net off the moorings. I don't know if he did it on purpose, but it had nothing to do with the result of the play which was a goal. These rules are really stupid. A great game was cheapened between that, and the ridiculous shootout rules.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
Good points. If he doesn't put his stick there, there is no call. But it just seems that anytime there is a stick at waist level it get's called. Even if it really had no effect on the play. I hate that.
- MJL


It was odd considering the stuff they were letting go. Like when I think it was Backes was in the Russian corner getting his stick led and started throwing shots back.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
It was odd considering the stuff they were letting go. Like when I think it was Backes was in the Russian corner getting his stick led and started throwing shots back.
- funmaster18

Ya the refs seemed a bit tighter on the Russians
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
I think it's a fairness thing. Team with only 1 good player aren't penalized for making it to the shootout against superiorly talented teams.

That is the only reasoning I can think of that would make any sense (although I disagree).

- Flyersgod


I don't know what the rationale is. But I'm not a fan of it. Those who hate shootouts and call them gimmicks definitely give credence to their arguments having the same player shoot over and over again.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
I think it's a fairness thing. Team with only 1 good player aren't penalized for making it to the shootout against superiorly talented teams.

That is the only reasoning I can think of that would make any sense (although I disagree).

- Flyersgod


I think after 3 tries each, they just want to get it over with, allowing teams to play the best shoutout player over and over.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
I think after 3 tries each, they just want to get it over with, allowing teams to play the best shoutout player over and over.
- funmaster18


Most of the purists don't like it. But from my experience the overwhelming majority of fans love the shootout. I've been to a lot of Flyers games when there is a shootout. And there is excitement and a buzz in the crowd, and everyone is up on their feet.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
Yup. Quick knocked the net off the moorings. I don't know if he did it on purpose, but it had nothing to do with the result of the play which was a goal. These rules are really stupid. A great game was cheapened between that, and the ridiculous shootout rules.
- PLindbergh31


If I'm any goalie in the tourney watching today's game, I'm sliding hard into the post on any decent scoring chance from here on out.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
hush
- stayinthefnnet


BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
Most of the purists don't like it. But from my experience the overwhelming majority of fans love the shootout. I've been to a lot of Flyers games when there is a shootout. And there is excitement and a buzz in the crowd, and everyone is up on their feet.
- MJL

I hear this defense of the shootout often, and I don't buy it. Even if you don't like the shootout, you're still invested in your team and the outcome of the game. It's like a bad call, you're still going to watch the game even if you don't like it, and you're still going to react to the ensuing powerplay, the same as any other.
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